Ireland's bid for 2023 World Cup - venues announced + Gov. underwriting 320m

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Venues announced and both Govs underwriting cost.


http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/government-to-underwrite-320m-in-bid-for-2023-rugby-world-cup-414609.html


Croke Park, The Aviva stadium, RDS in Dublin; (3)
Casement Park and Kingspan Stadium in Belfast (2)
Pairc Uí Chaoimh in Cork;

These include Croke Park, the Aviva Stadium and the RDS in Dublin;
Casement Park and Kingspan Stadium in Belfast;
Pairc Uí Chaoimh in Cork;
Thomond Park, Limerick;
Fitzgerald Stadium, Killarney;
Pearse Stadium, Galway;
McHale Park in Castlebar;
Nowlan Park, Kilkenny;
and Celtic Park in Derry.

Great to see how evenly spread around the island (Derry & Kilkenny for example).

The operational costs for redeveloping some of these venues and bringing them up to standards and sizes for the tournament is estimated to cost in the region of €60m.

I think we have a good chance.

Gwlad wrote:Yeah, but its Ireland. And I am quite sure you have never passed comment on a place you haven't been to.

Actually in the way you dismiss the bid - no I haven't

Gwlad wrote:Yeah, but its Ireland. And I am quite sure you have never passed comment on a place you haven't been to.

 Ive often commented how cold the South Pole is, never been there though.

geoff999rugby wrote:

Gwlad wrote:Yeah, but its Ireland. And I am quite sure you have never passed comment on a place you haven't been to.

Actually in the way you dismiss the bid - no I haven't

Fine take issue with that but that has nothing to do with me passing comment on a place I have never been to

How many times have you been to South Africa?

That different - that is an comment based on observable facts, albeit by others.

To dismiss somewhere regarding its ability to be successful at something, without knowing the place is very different

On boards like this its called trolling

Gwlad wrote:

geoff999rugby wrote:

Gwlad wrote:Yeah, but its Ireland. And I am quite sure you have never passed comment on a place you haven't been to.

Actually in the way you dismiss the bid - no I haven't

Fine take issue with that but that has nothing to do with me passing comment on a place I have never been to

How many times have you been to South Africa?

A couple of times, going again next January.
My cousin lives in Cape Town and I have a friend in Natal.

Lived 6 months in Australia - never been to New Zealand

Has everything to do with you comment - by you own admission it is a comment based upon ignorance

geoff999rugby wrote:That different - that is an comment based on observable facts, albeit by others.

To dismiss somewhere regarding its ability to be successful at something, without knowing the place is very different

On boards like this its called trolling

No it isn't it is an opinion, you just don't like it.

I am basing my comments on observable facts, albeit by others.

geoff999rugby wrote:

Gwlad wrote:

geoff999rugby wrote:

Gwlad wrote:Yeah, but its Ireland. And I am quite sure you have never passed comment on a place you haven't been to.

Actually in the way you dismiss the bid - no I haven't

Fine take issue with that but that has nothing to do with me passing comment on a place I have never been to

How many times have you been to South Africa?

A couple of times, going again next January.
My cousin lives in Cape Town and I have a friend in Natal.

Lived 6 months in Australia - never been to New Zealand

Has everything to do with you comment - by you own admission it is a comment based upon ignorance

Ah well you are clearly an expert on SA then.

aucklandlaurie wrote:

Gwlad wrote:Yeah, but its Ireland. And I am quite sure you have never passed comment on a place you haven't been to.

 Ive often commented how cold the South Pole is, never been there though.

That's pretty obvious though. Are you saying that it is obvious Ireland isnt a good place for a RWC?

Gwlad enjoy you blinkered world

geoff999rugby wrote:Gwlad enjoy you blinkered world

Its better than Ireland

My preference if there is a choice would be to see it return to SA.

Gwlad wrote:My preference if there is a choice would be to see it return to SA.

So you think South Africa should win the bid rather than Ireland or France?

Pot Hale wrote:

Gwlad wrote:My preference if there is a choice would be to see it return to SA.

So you think South Africa should win the bid rather than Ireland or France?

I would love for Ireland to host it, and of all the countries to visit to watch it Ireland would be one of the first I'd pick...though Wales probably another.

Pot Hale wrote:

Gwlad wrote:My preference if there is a choice would be to see it return to SA.

So you think South Africa should win the bid rather than Ireland or France?

I think "my preference if there is a choice would be to see it return to SA" probably means it not being hosted in Ireland or France.

Owain Glyndŵr reasoning is probably to do with the Irish or frenchbids not including Cardiff as a venue. Which makes either more attractive to everyone else.

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:Owain Glyndŵr reasoning is probably to do with the Irish or frenchbids not including Cardiff as a venue. Which makes either more attractive to everyone else.

I assume your moniker has something to do with being ignorant of rugby since most people who have ever been to the Principality agree it is, by far one of the best rugby venues in the world.

Gwlad wrote:

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:Owain Glyndŵr reasoning is probably to do with the Irish or frenchbids not including Cardiff as a venue. Which makes either more attractive to everyone else.

I assume your moniker has something to do with being ignorant of rugby since most people who have ever been to the Principality agree it is, by far one of the best rugby venues in the world.

Except for that rotten turf. Dont they know how to grow grass properly?

Taylorman wrote:

Gwlad wrote:

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:Owain Glyndŵr reasoning is probably to do with the Irish or frenchbids not including Cardiff as a venue. Which makes either more attractive to everyone else.

I assume your moniker has something to do with being ignorant of rugby since most people who have ever been to the Principality agree it is, by far one of the best rugby venues in the world.

Except for that rotten turf. Dont they know how to grow grass properly?

We import it from the Pacific Islands now. Works just fine.

Hopefully the games will go to Ireland, they havent hosted it before and they are a much safer environment than South Africa.

Feeling the NZ love. Maybe they arent so bad afterall

aucklandlaurie wrote:Hopefully the games will go to Ireland, they havent hosted it before and they are a much safer environment than South Africa.

what unbelievable rubbish.

Gwlad wrote:

aucklandlaurie wrote:Hopefully the games will go to Ireland, they havent hosted it before and they are a much safer environment than South Africa.

what unbelievable rubbish.

How exactly is that rubbish?

I would have thought Laurie's post was factually spot on in this occasion. At this stage I think Ireland would have to be the favourites to be given the 2023 RWC in Nov of this year.

GunsGermsV2 wrote:I would have thought Laurie's post was factually spot on in this occasion. At this stage I think Ireland would have to be the favourites to be given the 2023 RWC in Nov of this year.

 Its not often you get to write that GG.

 Now with the Commonwealth games issues and taking the 2024 Games away from Natal. South African rugby doesnt need let alone deserve being made into a vehicle for the ANC. World rugby needs South Africa, and South Africa needs World Rugby, for a WRC to go to SA in the current political climate the damage could be massive to south African Rugby.

aucklandlaurie wrote:

GunsGermsV2 wrote:I would have thought Laurie's post was factually spot on in this occasion. At this stage I think Ireland would have to be the favourites to be given the 2023 RWC in Nov of this year.

 Its not often you get to write that GG.

 Now with the Commonwealth games issues and taking the 2024 Games away from Natal. South African rugby doesnt need let alone deserve being a made into a vehicle for the ANC. World rugby needs South Africa, and South Africa needs World Rugby, for a WRC to go to SA in the current political climate the damage could be massive to south African Rugby.

Haha I know. We love to fight usually.

Gwlad wrote:

aucklandlaurie wrote:Hopefully the games will go to Ireland, they havent hosted it before and they are a much safer environment than South Africa.

what unbelievable rubbish.

Elaborate please, perhaps by comparing crime stats...

....or chances of being blown up in Ireland v SA.

I spent 3 weeks traveling round SA for the 2009 Lions independently and another 2 weeks traveling around SA and Namibia. Not once did I feel unsafe, as long as you use your noodle and the people were charming.

And there's never any violence in Dublin or any other part of Ireland right.

FFS.

Lol, Id say the only thing that will be getting blown up in Ireland will be your inflatable daffodil in 2023.

GunsGermsV2 wrote:Lol, Id say the only thing that will be getting blown up in Ireland will be your inflatable daffodil in 2023.

That'll teach me to pay better attention when reading, I thought you'd said an inflatable dil...

Gwlad wrote:....or chances of being blown up in Ireland v SA.

I spent 3 weeks traveling round SA for the 2009 Lions independently and another 2 weeks traveling around SA and Namibia. Not once did I feel unsafe, as long as you use your noodle and the people were charming.

And there's never any violence in Dublin or any other part of Ireland right.

FFS.

SA is in the top 50 murder rates, Ireland is 171st

When it comes to Ireland the crime you have to worry about isn't reported, that's the price of the beer

GunsGermsV2 wrote:Lol, Id say the only thing that will be getting blown up in Ireland will be your inflatable daffodil in 2023.

I'd rather not have to go to Ireland though, just think my daffodil would lose all its buoyancy at the prospect of an Irish RWC.

luckily I don't think your absence will put too much of a dent in Ireland's bid.

GunsGermsV2 wrote:luckily I don't think your absence will put too much of a dent in Ireland's bid.

No but their bid isn't sexy...now another SA RWC, that's sexy.

Why dont you just back pack around SA when the RWC is on in Ireland?

Gwlad wrote:

GunsGermsV2 wrote:luckily I don't think your absence will put too much of a dent in Ireland's bid.

No but their bid isn't sexy...now another SA RWC, that's sexy.

Arlene Foster is helping out with the bid, isn't she sexy enough for you

Haha

marty2086 wrote:

Gwlad wrote:

GunsGermsV2 wrote:luckily I don't think your absence will put too much of a dent in Ireland's bid.

No but their bid isn't sexy...now another SA RWC, that's sexy.

Arlene Foster is helping out with the bid, isn't she sexy enough for you

No wi understand why Irish jokes are notoriously ridiculed world wide.

And yet the Irish are renowned worldwide and one of the most beloved people, seems you are just as much fun as a cactus up the ar$e

marty2086 wrote:And yet the Irish are renowned worldwide and one of the most beloved people, seems you are just as much fun as a cactus up the ar$e

Which you appear to be expert on in both respects.

Its a good thing we have renowned wit and intellect Gwlad on the forum to gauge humour levels from the respective nations and keep us updated on the likely hood of being blown up.

Gwlad wrote:

marty2086 wrote:And yet the Irish are renowned worldwide and one of the most beloved people, seems you are just as much fun as a cactus up the ar$e

Which you appear to be expert on in both respects.

Why do you think I made the comparison? Still $hitting out needles, bloody painful

marty2086 wrote:

Gwlad wrote:....or chances of being blown up in Ireland v SA.

I spent 3 weeks traveling round SA for the 2009 Lions independently and another 2 weeks traveling around SA and Namibia. Not once did I feel unsafe, as long as you use your noodle and the people were charming.

And there's never any violence in Dublin or any other part of Ireland right.

FFS.

SA is in the top 50 murder rates, Ireland is 171st

When it comes to Ireland the crime you have to worry about isn't reported, that's the price of the beer

and bumping into you.

Gwlad wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

Gwlad wrote:....or chances of being blown up in Ireland v SA.

I spent 3 weeks traveling round SA for the 2009 Lions independently and another 2 weeks traveling around SA and Namibia. Not once did I feel unsafe, as long as you use your noodle and the people were charming.

And there's never any violence in Dublin or any other part of Ireland right.

FFS.

SA is in the top 50 murder rates, Ireland is 171st

When it comes to Ireland the crime you have to worry about isn't reported, that's the price of the beer

and bumping into you.

Now you're just being a big meanie

Gwlad wrote:

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:Owain Glyndŵr reasoning is probably to do with the Irish or frenchbids not including Cardiff as a venue. Which makes either more attractive to everyone else.

I assume your moniker has something to do with being ignorant of rugby since most people who have ever been to the Principality agree it is, by far one of the best rugby venues in the world.

It's the Dutch definition of a Welsh rugby player. Better than having a moniker that sounds like an English public schoolboy who is mildly happy. Given it's meaningless in Welsh as you don't have a country

Dutch...rugby

Oh that's superb.

Do you have tulips at half time or oranges?

Does the physio give you a spliff?

Gwlad wrote:Dutch...rugby

Oh that's superb.

Do you have tulips at half time or oranges?

Does the physio give you a spliff?

 Do not mock, Dutch Rugby is very strong when you take South Africa into account.

aucklandlaurie wrote:

Gwlad wrote:Dutch...rugby

Oh that's superb.

Do you have tulips at half time or oranges?

Does the physio give you a spliff?

 Do not mock, Dutch Rugby is very strong when you take South Africa into account.

Meaning what; the 17th Century diaspora of the Boers has some connection with Dutch rugby today?

Gwlad wrote:

aucklandlaurie wrote:

Gwlad wrote:Dutch...rugby

Oh that's superb.

Do you have tulips at half time or oranges?

Does the physio give you a spliff?

 Do not mock, Dutch Rugby is very strong when you take South Africa into account.

Meaning what; the 17th Century diaspora of the Boers has some connection with Dutch rugby today?

Gwlad - all of your posts are simply intended to troll this particular topic.

Your singular view/opinion is very clear as you've stated it a number of times. All you're doing now is trying to start arguments. You know that's what you're doing - give it up, it's tedious.

I have? what is it?

Most people have singular views/opinions. Just wanted to know why someone made the connection between the Dutch and modern South African rugby which I can only imagine the author believes is due to the Boer diaspora from Europe and seems just a tad tenuous since the Boers were French, German and Dutch Calvinists.

RWC in Ireland would be great, gets my vote