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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 13 Aug 2016, 12:47 am

The other thread is coming to an end and I think it's nice to have a new memory to take us through this year.

And with the new season starting today, what better time to refresh things and start again. The preamble of pre-season is over: 2016/17 LETS BE AVIN YA

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Post by Hero Sat 13 Aug 2016, 8:38 am

It's that moment where there's fans of all 20 clubs brimming over with nervous excitement, come this time in a few days around half of them will already be moaning over what they then expect to be a long season ahead.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 13 Aug 2016, 10:50 am

I hope Hull smash Leicester 7-0, and that Southampton begin the long march to the title with a comfortable win over Watford and Elton John.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 13 Aug 2016, 12:29 pm

I expect to lose Monday, but it's nice to be able to enjoy the opening day without the stress of West Ham!

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Post by GSC Sat 13 Aug 2016, 2:37 pm

Probably shouldn't overreact to the opening game, but thats a really poor result for Leicester given Hull's build up to the season.
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Post by compelling and rich Sat 13 Aug 2016, 2:53 pm

very poor defensively today by Leicester and didnt take their chances. surprised by the weakness at set pieces, probably down to huth not playing

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 13 Aug 2016, 3:00 pm

Kante loss felt

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Post by compelling and rich Sat 13 Aug 2016, 3:09 pm

dont think that excuses the weakness from set pieces but he was certainly missed around rest of the pitch. very open midfield today

barkley cross straight in from free kick. think spurs missed their chance last season. top 4 at best this season with their rivals strengthening

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Post by nadeem2099 Sat 13 Aug 2016, 9:45 pm

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Post by GSC Sat 13 Aug 2016, 10:32 pm

Fair play to Lineker
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Post by GSC Sat 13 Aug 2016, 10:34 pm

Did Vardy punch himself in the face
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Post by GSC Sat 13 Aug 2016, 10:36 pm

2 Hull players going for overhead kicks at the same time is my highlight of the season
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 13 Aug 2016, 10:39 pm

Buzzing to watch a Pulis masterclass
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Post by GSC Sat 13 Aug 2016, 10:41 pm

Leicester better hope this doesn't further encourage Mahrez to move, looks the class act
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Post by Guest Sat 13 Aug 2016, 10:50 pm

Benching Hart and banishing Yaya.

I'm now a Pep fan.

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Post by GSC Sat 13 Aug 2016, 11:01 pm

They're still a pretty big work in progress. Can see them taking off when Gundogan gets fit.
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Post by GSC Sat 13 Aug 2016, 11:02 pm

Hart to Everton would make a lot of sense I think. Possibly on loan
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Post by GSC Sat 13 Aug 2016, 11:08 pm

Spurs look good. Not sure they're a top 4 team but as we saw with City, there's always stuff to iron out following a summer overhaul. They have stability that City, United and Chelsea don't.
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Post by Guest Sat 13 Aug 2016, 11:16 pm

Spurs shoulda nicked that. Janssen has to bury that 2nd half chance.

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Post by GSC Sat 13 Aug 2016, 11:27 pm

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Post by Crimey Sat 13 Aug 2016, 11:45 pm

If Guardiola wants to drop Hart, HAS to sign a new keeper. Caballero is not good enough.

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Post by GSC Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:08 am

Ter Stegan is the link
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Aug 2016, 1:39 am

Hart gets a lot of unfair stick in my book, but if he wants more of a sweeper keeper then he needs to go Ter Stegen. Think Hart to Everton could well be on, there have been rumours popping up all summer and I'd maybe guess it's why Everton haven't gone after better than Stekelenburg yet.

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Post by Jermaine2015 Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:22 pm

Joe Hart was always an overrated keeper. He was ludicrously put up on a pedestal by the British media and pundits as being on par with Manuel Neuer or David de Gea. Never was Hart in that class. He had the odd decent performance but he was always willing to provide many a clanger. As for Pep instead of solely focusing on Marc-Andre ter Stegen, he should be looking at Bernd Leno who's equally as good and considerably cheaper.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:26 pm

I would much prefer to have Hart in my team than Ter Stegen, massively over rated.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:28 pm

See, I don't think anyone but the enraged have ever thought he was that good. It's like people who moan before an international tournament about the fans building England up as challengers - it doesn't happen, not least for about 14 years.

He's a good goalkeeper, and has produced outstanding performances. His consistency dipped a lot more last year, but so did City as a whole, and I would not judge him on a bad tournament with England, as everyone has talked about the problem of players being judged one way or the other at major tournaments.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:33 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:I would much prefer to have Hart in my team than Ter Stegen, massively over rated.

Agree with this - Ter Stegen has failed to beat out Claudio Bravo at Barca, don't think he's any different to Hart in terms of overall ability
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:35 pm

That was my line of thought exactly Olly, being number two to Bravo isn't the sign of a top class goalkeeper.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:35 pm

Bournemouth XI: Boruc, Smith, Francis, Steve Cook, Daniels, Surman, Arter, Lewis Cook, Ibe, Wilson, King.

Man Utd XI: De Gea, Valencia, Bailly, Blind, Shaw, Fellaini, Herrera, Mata, Rooney, Martial, Ibrahimović.

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Post by Fernando Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:39 pm

R.I.P Marcus Rashford's career

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:39 pm

Interesting first line up, a very Van Gaal looking side.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:43 pm

Bench of: Romero, Rojo, Carrick, Schneiderlin, Rashford, Memphis and Mkhitaryan

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Post by Jermaine2015 Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:50 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:I would much prefer to have Hart in my team than Ter Stegen, massively over rated.

Agree with this - Ter Stegen has failed to beat out Claudio Bravo at Barca, don't think he's any different to Hart in terms of overall ability
When ter Stegen joined FC Barcelona he was set to become the first choice keeper but he sustained an injury. Bravo came in and took his chance(Bravo is world class in his own right) and then on it ter Stegen has been forced to bide his time.

The overrated Hart was the main reason by England didn't win the European championships...

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Post by Ent Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:51 pm

Don't understand that United side at all.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:52 pm

Claudio Bravo is not a world class keeper in the slightest and as for that last sentence, talk about over egging the pudding.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:53 pm

Jermaine2015 wrote:
The overrated Hart was the main reason by England didn't win the European championships...
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Post by Jermaine2015 Sun 14 Aug 2016, 12:58 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Claudio Bravo is not a world class keeper in the slightest and as for that last sentence, talk about over egging the pudding.
Joining Manchester City is Claudio Bravo...in sure he'll become world class in your deluded eyes now...

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 14 Aug 2016, 1:04 pm

As a Manchester United fan I very much doubt a player joining City will make me think they're world class Shocked

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Post by Guest Sun 14 Aug 2016, 1:10 pm

Can't believe Depay is getting anywhere near the bench at Utd. Must be one of their worst signings ever.

I think there'll be goals in this match. I actually fancy Utd to win the title this year. Chelsea intrigue me the most.

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Post by Ent Sun 14 Aug 2016, 1:39 pm

Depay has ability, needs to apply himself.

Quite worried about this game given the line up.

Wouldn't have gone with Fellaini, rooney or mata.

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Post by Ent Sun 14 Aug 2016, 1:42 pm

If the bookies offer bets on players getting sent off over the course of a season Bailly looks like free money.

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Post by Jermaine2015 Sun 14 Aug 2016, 2:22 pm

Mourinho is known for his ruthless managerial style, but he needs to be ruthless now and flog off the rwo donkeys he has inherited Rooney and Felliani

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Post by Ent Sun 14 Aug 2016, 2:48 pm

2-0, Rooney header after a couple of bobbles and a complete misfit from martial.

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Post by Ent Sun 14 Aug 2016, 2:51 pm

3-0, ibra from 25 yards.

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Post by Ent Sun 14 Aug 2016, 2:57 pm

3-1 smith with a lovely strike. Several missed tackles from united in build up as Bournemouth essentially walked across the 18 yard line in the build up.

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Post by Fernando Sun 14 Aug 2016, 3:12 pm

Arsenal team vs Scousers - Cech, Bellerin, Holding, Chambers, Monreal, Coquelin, Elneny, Iwobi, Ramsey, Alexis, Walcott

Bench: Ospina, Gibbs,Wilshere,Xhaka,Cazorla,Chamberlain,Akpom

Liverpool: Mignolet,Clyne,Klavan,Lovren,Moreno,Wijnaldum,Henderson,Lallana,Coutinho,Mane,Firmino

Bench: Manninger,Can,Matip,Origi,Stewart,Grujic,Alexander-Arnold

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Post by Fernando Sun 14 Aug 2016, 3:26 pm

FT Bournemouth 1-3 Man Utd

United got some improving to do under Jose can forget about the title if keep playing like that.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Aug 2016, 3:33 pm

Very Jose in parts there. Efficient goalscoring without being exciting. Some of the defending very suspect though

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Post by Ent Sun 14 Aug 2016, 4:01 pm

Fernando wrote:FT Bournemouth 1-3 Man Utd

United got some improving to do under Jose can forget about the title if keep playing like that.

Only the first game of the season, pogba and mhiktaryan to come in.

Think the title is a big ask for them this season but I expect them to get better.

Never going to be a dominating performance with the team playing today, just glad they won.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Aug 2016, 4:29 pm

JUSTICE #Mignosave

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