5000-1 - The 2016/17 Premier League thread

[Dolphin Ziggler]

First topic message reminder :

The other thread is coming to an end and I think it's nice to have a new memory to take us through this year.

And with the new season starting today, what better time to refresh things and start again. The preamble of pre-season is over: 2016/17 LETS BE AVIN YA

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Can't guarantee the first result I check is Ipswich's. Whenever their current half time score or result is read out it is met with boos/cheeers depending on what it is

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I still know the Spurs results and the Wall results. I want Chelsea to lose every week too.

[Fernando]

Danny Ings out for 9 months again with a knee injury.

[Crimey]

Danny Ings out for 9 months again with a knee injury.

Absolutely gutted for him. Never even got a chance to get back into the first team. He's a nice guy and a very talented footballer but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he ended up retiring. 

I think that's his fourth serious knee injury? Although apparently this is a different injury on a different knee.

Klopp has said: ""It is typical of Danny's personality, on and off the pitch, that he picked up this injury to his knee when courageously trying to win the ball back for his team by making a tackle."

[dyrewolfe]

A bit late I know but...yay - first home win of the season!

Okay it was only against Bournemouth, but in the context of our season so far it feels like a major achievement.

On the flip side it still feels like it was a little bit lucky. Ramirez scored a worldie (in as much as he beat half the Bournemouth team single-handed before he scored) that was rather against the run of play.

Second goal was a genuine good bit of play, involving Traore who ran and passed to Negredo who unselfishly nodded down to give Downing a tap in.

Overall I think Bournemouth were actually the better team. They definitely shaded the first half and while Boro had the best of the second half, we were camped on our own 18 yard line for the last 15 minutes...against a 10 man team. Both sides created a few good chances.

Valdes was lucky not to get at least booked, if not sent off, for jumping with his knees up, almost catching a Bournemouth player in the face. Doubt it was intentional, but dangerous nonetheless. Both teams also had possible penalty shouts.

So, good result, but we still need to work on ball retention (ironically the visitors shaded possession), or at least not giving the ball away cheaply and in dangerous positions. We also need to be willing to work harder going forward, creating more of the sort of chances that led to the goals...and for pity's sake DON'T go into our shells when we have a man advantage and a 2 goal lead!

[lfc91]

Danny Ings out for 9 months again with a knee injury.

Absolutely gutted for him. Never even got a chance to get back into the first team. He's a nice guy and a very talented footballer but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he ended up retiring. 

I think that's his fourth serious knee injury? Although apparently this is a different injury on a different knee.

Klopp has said: ""It is typical of Danny's personality, on and off the pitch, that he picked up this injury to his knee when courageously trying to win the ball back for his team by making a tackle."

Don't know about retiring from football but i expect his liverpool career will effectively be over. Real shame. Good player who fits in well with the teams style of play. Gutted for the man. On the brightside for him though, his missus is an 11/10 so having her dress up as a nurse might dull the pain....

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Andy Carroll threatened at gunpoint by men on motorbikes as he drove home from training. Sped off and outran them going back to the club.

[Fernando]

He should of handed the carrot over then.

[GSC]

It was believable until the part where he outran them.

[dyrewolfe]

He should of handed the carrot over then.

He should have called his mate Shrek for help.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

That was so boring

[Guest]

That was so boring

The league is dull, especially without the Toon

[Guest]

I thought the criticism laid at Middlesbrough and their manager was premature.  They haven't been in the Premiership for some time and now have away drawers at Arsenal and Man City.  But of most interest is that they only have a goal difference of -2 whereas teams around them and below have worse goal differences.  You have to go to tenth place to find a team with a better goal difference.

Sunderland win.  Maybe this years relegation battle is going to be interesting. Will be interesting to see if Swansea can survive after their early manager change.

[Ent]

Swansea will get a morale boosting result tomorrow.

They'll need it as Bradley is clueless and has got his non American jobs essentially through nepotism.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I thought the criticism laid at Middlesbrough and their manager was premature.  They haven't been in the Premiership for some time and now have away drawers at Arsenal and Man City.  But of most interest is that they only have a goal difference of -2 whereas teams around them and below have worse goal differences.  You have to go to tenth place to find a team with a better goal difference.

Sunderland win.  Maybe this years relegation battle is going to be interesting.   Will be interesting to see if Swansea can survive after their early manager change.

Remind me is the league decided on goal difference or points

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Equally, they'll be mostly concerned with points in games where they have to make the running

[westisbest]

You need a bit of reminding on things this evening olly

[Hammersmith harrier]

Stekelenburg has just had a nightmare minute.

[Guest]

Chelsea 4-0 Everton

Simply put, Hazard can be bothered this year

[Guest]

I thought the criticism laid at Middlesbrough and their manager was premature.  They haven't been in the Premiership for some time and now have away drawers at Arsenal and Man City.  But of most interest is that they only have a goal difference of -2 whereas teams around them and below have worse goal differences.  You have to go to tenth place to find a team with a better goal difference.

Sunderland win.  Maybe this years relegation battle is going to be interesting.   Will be interesting to see if Swansea can survive after their early manager change.

Remind me is the league decided on goal difference or points

It has on occasion.  But my point is, it indicates Middlesbrough have a better balance between attack and defence, a more tighter game play, than other teams that are and will be relegation candidates.

[Guest]

Chelsea 4-0 Everton

Simply put, Hazard can be bothered this year

Chelsea 5 - 0 Everton. A surprising scoreline. They are currently above Man City in the table with a point more and a higher goal difference of +17. Chelsea are announcing themselves as serious challengers to the title.

[Ent]

Leaving 3 up top to counter seems to be the answer to the monopolise possession tactic.

[westisbest]

Goal difference can play a big part in staying up or going down.

Winning the league, or coming second.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I can remember once it impacting the title?

[dyrewolfe]

I thought the criticism laid at Middlesbrough and their manager was premature.  They haven't been in the Premiership for some time and now have away drawers at Arsenal and Man City.  But of most interest is that they only have a goal difference of -2 whereas teams around them and below have worse goal differences.  You have to go to tenth place to find a team with a better goal difference.

Sunderland win.  Maybe this years relegation battle is going to be interesting.   Will be interesting to see if Swansea can survive after their early manager change.

Remind me is the league decided on goal difference or points

It has on occasion.  But my point is, it indicates Middlesbrough have a better balance between attack and defence, a more tighter game play, than other teams that are and will be relegation candidates.

Incredible result!

First half was awful to watch if you were a Boro fan, but we defended heroically for 40-odd minutes and Valdes played a blinder to limit City's advantage to a single goal. Not much we could have done about it - De Bruyne's pinpoint pass to Aguero and the finish were both top class.

Boro decided to try and play a bit second half and it was much less one-sided. City still able to dominate possession but we continued to defend well and crucially Valdes was much less involved.

We left it VERY late, but the build-up play to the goal was very good (by our standards). Fantastic cross by Friend and an impeccably timed run by De Roon to meet it, powering a header past Bravo. Actually the equaliser couldn't have been better timed, as if we'd had to hang on for 10 - 15  minutes City would likely have got a winner.

Karanka often gets flak for his negative and defensive tactics, but they were absolutely perfect for today.

Better sides than Boro will leave the Etihad with less. 3 games unbeaten now and they include draws against two title contenders. Could it be we are starting to find our feet in the PL? At least we no longer look like surefire relegation fodder.

[Crimey]

I can remember once it impacting the title?

Directly yes but imagine it makes a difference psychologically. Towards the end having better goal difference is like an extra point. Look at 13/14 Liverpool pushed to get better goal difference against Palace and ended up drawing putting significantly less pressure on City on the final day.

[GSC]

Don't think goal difference did that, Liverpool just choked

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I think that's finding excuses for being poor.

If it's directly done it once then that's all the psychology that would be needed.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Janssen might be the worst striker in the league

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Zaza is offended

[Guest]

Spurs are great at finding awful strikers.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

That Utd lineup is hilarious

[Ent]

Swanseas eyes lighting up.

How is our squad so terrible after we've spent so much of late.

[Guest]

Just a joy to watch Liverpool

[westisbest]

Pool top of the table as it stands.

[Ent]

Great chance for them to win the title this year.

United apparently lining up

Darmian carrick jones rojo
Fellaini pogba
Mata Rooney young
Ibra

[Hammersmith harrier]

Got two free £10 bets with Betstars, put them on Mane and Coutinho to score, happy days.

[Crimey]

Coutinho has really pushed on this year. 5 goals and 5 assists already.

[westisbest]

The guys got flo for Sho, that's for sure.

[Guest]

Coutinho's got La Liga written all over him. A big money move is only a matter of time.

Man U making easy work of Swansea.

[Crimey]

I wouldn't be surprised if Barcelona are taking a look at him as a long term Iniesta replacement. Don't see him fitting in at Real Madrid.

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