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Post by Fluxy Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:13 pm

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Breaking News: Newcastle Falcons continue to chase down leaders Sale Sharks, whilst Wasps defeat Tigers to climb away from the relegation battle.



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2015/2016 - Sale Sharks
2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                           
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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Fluxy) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (Fluxy) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1994. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made by sending a PM to the RFU (Fluxy) and it will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Round Bidding 

    Open Bidding


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. £2m for 5 games, £1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: £8m
Runners Up: £6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: £5m
5th: £4m
6th: £3.5m
7th: £3m
8th: £2.5m
9th: £2m
10th: £1.5m
11th: £1m
12th: £0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (Fluxy) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by BamBam Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:21 pm

I use the desktop version on my phone, screen is big enough so is just as good

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:52 pm

That's a huge SA side. I think we're really going to miss the physicality of Haskell, Itoje and Kruis.

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Post by stnick88 Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:04 pm

True but Launch and Lawes are pretty physical

Having Marler, Sinckler and Hughes to come on is pretty physical too

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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:32 pm

We'll be fine. We just have to out-workrate that SA pack, move them about a bit and tire them

I know our backrow has 2x6.5, but we also have Launch and Cole at the BD and their backrow offers little on the floor. Plus we are strong in the lineout, and have some dynamic replacements
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Post by dammit_chris Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:21 pm

I don't think we will have an issue with the physicality side of things, got both Vunipola's and Launchbury in the best form, Robshaw has been excellent since moving back to no6 and Dan Cole seems to be up and firing again and like Nick mentions the impact from the bench is excellent - Attwood has been brilliant for Bath this season.

Their coaches selection seems to be a bit of desperation of trying to get the biggest pack going and hoping that out muscling us will do the trick.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:32 am

Looking forward to seeing May play again, he was looking very impressive for England before getting injured. Him and Daly give us some serious gas in the back line.

How's he been looking Matt? Fully firing?

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:23 pm

Weird can get on using iPad but not phone even if I select desktop.

Would not have picked may pooly. 3 games in and he is sharp but rokadunguni has form and would protect may. He is sharp as though. Would nit realise he was injured

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:29 pm

Jones said rokadunguni needed to work on kick chase and in air and he has done that so should start.

That said position ally roka still poor but yarde awful defensively in terms of positioning also.

Think Eddie j gone for best kick chasers

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:01 pm

If any of you have a problem getting on via mobile then clear history and cookies. The new iOS update has meant many 606ers had same issue.

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:49 pm

We won a game!! Jenkins, Moriarty, Davies, L.Williams all very good. Big thing we did was stop Isa in his tracks and that made Argentina panic a bit.
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Post by dammit_chris Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:06 pm

Liam Williams was very good for you today Prop, he's got to be a starter for the Lions, such an exciting player.

Thought England were very good today, Robshaw's workrate around the pitch was amazing. But Ben Youngs was another level today, best game I've seen him play in years. Daly might have laid down a big marker for the no13 shirt in that, but Launchbury and BV are just playing their best rugby. Not sure how many more games Yarde should get, would rather see Roko play, or Wade!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:49 pm

Agree on Yarde, he was just OK.

Good performances across the board, good team showing. Young had a cracker, threatened all game.

I like Williams but not sure where he fits in, better bench option for me.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:28 pm

Kick aside, must admit I didn't see much of Daly. Watched it in a pub so probably missed a bit.

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:08 pm

That's the problem Wales have had with Williams is where and how to play him. He is quality at fb but they wont move h.p.to the wing. Williams is the sort of player who will give you everything and fly in for every 50.50 with no regard for his body!!
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Post by dammit_chris Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:15 pm

I think Williams is a fantastic player Prop, just need to find him a place on the pitch.

I'd agree with these ratings for the England game - thought Cole did welll to come back strong after a torrid opening 15-20mins at scrumtime and May looked dangerous when we got him the ball. Thing I like with Daly and May is that they have out and out pace and that's impossible to defend against.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/11/12/england-v-south-africa-player-ratings-from-twickenham/

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:29 pm

Much rather Williams over Cuthbert. For some reason North struggles with how we play at the moment yet is on fire with Saints backline. Think we restrict his running and angles.
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Post by dammit_chris Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:22 pm

I don't get Cuthbert, he's like a Banahan but worse and Banahan isn't an international rugby player. It seems like Wales became obsessed with the whole Warren-ball game plan and haven't looked to change things up. The backline on paper looks so dangerous.

I don't get why Wales don't get James Davies a chance either, backrow could do with a bit of freshening up.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:38 am

Eh, telegraph ratings are passable. Robshaw only a 7 is crazy though

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-union/international/england-vs-south-africa-player-ratings-ben-youngs-billy-vunipola-joe-launchbury-a7413896.html#gallery

Better but a touch too generous overall
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Post by Guest Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:58 am

Was at the game yesterday thought Young's fantastic and ford farrel axis great

Alberts and whitely good for boks who looked a bit clueless/

Cole had a torrid time
At scrum from beast and Hartley also struggled in scrum. Question whether Hartley fit,

Yarde awful and for me one of the worst players to be capped in my lifetime. Roka must be given a start

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:01 am

CJ agree with you on Robshaw, he was a definite 8 in that, every loose ball he dropped on it. Was everywhere. Also would have had Yarde as a 5. Jones must see something in him but seems to be the only guy that isn't improving under him.

I'd like to see Roko start - not sure how many changes we will see for the Fiji game - Hartley needs to improve fitnesss so should play.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:28 am

anonmattyt wrote:

Cole had a torrid time
At scrum from beast

Er....what?.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:46 am

First 20 mins Cole got booshed up front - was mentioned a lot by commentators during the game, then came back very strong. He looks like he's lost a lot of weight.

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Post by Guest Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:48 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:

Cole had a torrid time
At scrum from beast

Er....what?.

Just catching up on papers and they back up what I saw with my own eyes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/11/12/england-v-south-africa-player-ratings-from-twickenham/dan-cole---england-v-south-africa-player-ratings-from-twickenham/

SA scrum was on top. Cole and Harley had a tough time/

Overall thought it was a good England performance considering amount of players out
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:55 am

I'm not quite sure which game you watched matt.

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Post by Guest Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:03 am

The same one Chris and the papers watched

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/nov/12/england-south-africa-player-ratings-twickenham?0p19G=c

To be fair every prop is going to have the odd day when he struggles same with Hartley.

It's no shame getting a tough time off beast. Beast been one of the best loosehead In world rugby for a long time hence all his caps

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:10 am

Cole was v good in the loose.

Both Hartley and Cole were under the cosh in the scrum at the start, SA really dominated that part early on.

Bizarre they didn't challenge the England lineout though.

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Post by Guest Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:13 am

Cole defended well
And made a good steal. Gave a few pens. He is our best th but we could do with a bit of depth at 3. A few coming through hopefully

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:40 pm

A few early scrums to SA aside it was very even . To suggest Cole "had a torrid time " against Beast is well wide of the mark, even for you.

Happy to agree to disagree though.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:55 pm

Wow the Guardian's ratings were a little harsh. Dan Cole never a 4, same as Hartley. But do agree with Mat's comments on both, thing that seemed to save us at scrum time was when Etzebeth went off injured. Became very even then.

SA were so poor though, they've got to get rid of their coaches.

Good to see Eddie Jones say how much better we've got to get and the Ford/Farrell partnership is actually starting to look pretty decent - with them and Youngs we've got some very good kickers in key shirts.

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Post by Guest Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:42 pm

Always like these 5 things articles

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Post by Guest Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:57 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2016/nov/13/england-south-africa-autumn-international-rugby-twickenham

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Post by Fluxy Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:25 am

Morning gents,

Keep the predictions coming in for the Anglo Welsh Round 2, open until midday tomorrow.
This weeks thread is up for the AP this weekend, to avoid us falling behind too much - Aviva Premiership Round 8

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:38 pm

Quite a good article on Planet Rugby - seem to be doing some better opinion pieces now.

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/who-should-england-pick-to-face-fiji/

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:56 pm

Chaps I
Am off to
South Africa tonight until 2nd December for
My 40 th.

Will be on infrequently.

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Post by Fluxy Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:04 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Chaps I
Am off to South Africa tonight until 2nd December for my 40th.

Will be on infrequently.

No worries mate, have a good one  thumbsup If you need a hand let me know!

Will try and get results done this evening lads. Weather also to follow!

Finally, anyone seen CJB? Starting to get concerned!

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:09 pm

Have a good time away Mat. Don't mention the rugby to too many South Africans!

Looks like Yarde and Wood didnt impress Jones last week!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:14 pm

Both dropped...Hughes to start at 7 if recovers from a niggle. Daly to drop out and Goode rumoured to start.

CJB has no phone or net. Just messaged me on FB

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:12 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Both dropped...Hughes to start at 7 if recovers from a niggle. Daly to drop out and Goode rumoured to start.

CJB has no phone or net. Just messaged me on FB

Daly out and Goode in seems stupid
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:44 am

Away on business at the moment and access will be sporadic at best. Will get on Friday morning for tactics if ok? Not likely to predict this week apologies

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:52 am

Agree with you there CJ, although Goode is an amazing player for Sarries I don't think he can take that to the international level. Would rather he looked at the Sale fb instead.

If Roko starts it makes sense to have JJ playing so you get that Bath link up. Also the Fiji backline will be a lot more threatening, so might want JJ's better defence in there too.

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Post by BamBam Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:17 am

Fiji got tanked by the Baa Baas, we should be winning this with any of our squad lining up



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Post by Fluxy Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:23 am

But it would be good to see some progress and logic I suppose is what we are trying to say. Although if JJ couldn't start because of a niggle last week, I expect the plan was always for him to start ahead of Daly.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:56 am

It's JJ for Daly sorry and Goode for Brown.

Daly was ok last week but I don't think he's at JJ's level. Good to keep giving him some game time as an alternative though.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:06 am

Worth reading Guscott's article about Daly and JJ from the Rugby Paper at the weekend, makes some very good points for both.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:51 pm

Anyone have an academy LH available at all? Went a bit over the top with THs this summer!

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Post by BamBam Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:19 pm

James Page if you want Chris

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:37 pm

Don't get me wrong, Daly is good but it'll take a while for him to bed in and prove himself. JJ is on a different level currently, best 13 in the NH imo.

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Post by pullthestrings Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:36 am

Guys, does anyone know a website which shows teamsheets as soon as they are announced or predicts the lineups beforehand?

Finding it really hard to post teamsheets on a Tuesday/Wednesday when international sides named Wednesday/Thursday.

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Post by BamBam Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:07 am

Planet rugby is usually on the ball with teamsheets

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Post by pullthestrings Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:26 am

Cheers thumbsup

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