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Post by Fluxy Sat 13 Aug 2016, 2:13 pm

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Breaking News: Newcastle Falcons continue to chase down leaders Sale Sharks, whilst Wasps defeat Tigers to climb away from the relegation battle.



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2015/2016 - Sale Sharks
2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                           
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2Season 9 Homepage - Page 16 8Newcastle Falcons    1311023473074038312248
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7Season 9 Homepage - Page 16 25Bristol Rugby13418313341-2833360826
8Season 9 Homepage - Page 16 4Leicester Tigers13427310336-2630370626
9Season 9 Homepage - Page 16 2Gloucester13409321333-1332310824
10Season 9 Homepage - Page 16 6Wasps**13427314354-4036362424
11Season 9 Homepage - Page 16 57Worcester Warriors 133010311336-25293401022
12Season 9 Homepage - Page 16 1Bath Rugby***132011304342-38283801015

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Fluxy) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (Fluxy) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1994. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made by sending a PM to the RFU (Fluxy) and it will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Round Bidding 

    Open Bidding


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. £2m for 5 games, £1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: £8m
Runners Up: £6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: £5m
5th: £4m
6th: £3.5m
7th: £3m
8th: £2.5m
9th: £2m
10th: £1.5m
11th: £1m
12th: £0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (Fluxy) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Sat 10 Dec 2016, 2:42 pm

Rodney ah you has
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 10 Dec 2016, 2:46 pm

Youngs rarely has issues in the AP to be fair. I'd put LCD firmly in that class till he has a good run at Int level, not sure how he can be anything else.

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Post by Guest Sat 10 Dec 2016, 2:49 pm

Parra's decision making has cost clermont again. Tight games he makes errors.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 10 Dec 2016, 2:55 pm

Missing the European weekend Sad

Stuck at Dubai airport in queue from hell, always the same.

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Post by Guest Sat 10 Dec 2016, 3:03 pm

Dubai has that huge airport and somehow always gets it wrong. Ulster vs Clermont one of best pool games I have seen.

Tommy Bowe was sharp.
Henderson has become some player. Him and itoje give lions great lock/ backrow options. Versatility is great.

Lions team will have some great players. Lots of depth in most positions

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 10 Dec 2016, 3:07 pm

We have great depth at lock, such an area of strength.

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Post by Guest Sat 10 Dec 2016, 3:08 pm

Need 7s!!

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Post by Guest Sat 10 Dec 2016, 4:06 pm

Leicester dire. Munster superb

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Post by prop_lyd Sun 11 Dec 2016, 9:59 am

My predos will probably be tomorrow afternoon. Away in deepest darkest somerset and this is the first WiFi I've had!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 11 Dec 2016, 2:45 pm

Outstanding debut for Beale, Wasps look great. Launchbury and Hughes very impressive too.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 11 Dec 2016, 2:57 pm

Bristol apparently paying Lam £750k a year....insane amount for a championship manager! He'll certainly sort them out though

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Post by Fluxy Mon 12 Dec 2016, 9:10 am

Guys, I'm keeping predictions open until 1800 this evening. Despite only having one in over the weekend, and closing them yesterday at 1800  Rolling Eyes

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon 12 Dec 2016, 9:32 am

Ah, sorry flux. My sentbox is 100% full so looks like mine haven't sent yet
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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon 12 Dec 2016, 9:35 am

Did you get them now?
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Post by Fluxy Mon 12 Dec 2016, 9:45 am

I did thanks CJ OK

Just seen that Clermont have signed Slimani for next season, they looked good apart from losing at the weekend.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon 12 Dec 2016, 9:49 am

They've signed Uhila as well, next season they look even stronger, Laidlaw will help too. They still have the chokers tag line mind
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Post by Fluxy Mon 12 Dec 2016, 10:16 am

I was going to say, they still lack a ruthless mentality. A team like Sarries, who, if they had gotten back into the game like Clermont, would possibly gone on to win the game.

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Post by BamBam Mon 12 Dec 2016, 10:23 am

http://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_/id/18255435/british-irish-lions-team-week-pro12-dominates

Lions team of the week

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 12 Dec 2016, 10:53 am

Do I get bonus points for sending you in my predos during the weekend Fluxy?

Clermont have had a bit of an odd season, they've looked unplayable in some games but then have come unstuck against some poor teams in the French league.

Sarries form is starting to look a little ominous, but the Irish teams are starting to click again. Wasps looking good and great to see Hughes back in good form again, the England call up seems to have been a big boost for him.

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Post by Guest Mon 12 Dec 2016, 2:06 pm

Fluxy wrote:I did thanks CJ OK

Just seen that Clermont have signed Slimani for next season, they looked good apart from losing at the weekend.

Slimani gone backwards.

Antonio started all AI tests and went really well in scrum and loose.

Last year Slimani was possibly the best scrummaging tight head able and looked like he would become world class

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 12 Dec 2016, 2:56 pm

Had a good chat about France with a French friend the other night. I said how I rated Slimani as top draw and he commented how he's not been great this year and needs a change of scenery.

He also said how poor Antonio was in the scrum (which I agreed with) but interestingly how he's possibly one of the most important French players currently. He rated him as the French version of Mako Vuinipola but not as good scrummager and without Billy as an alternate carrier.

Mentioned how he never fails to go forward with ball in hand and is basically their get out when going backwards.

He reckoned the French side are moving away from the scrum being so important hence the selection of Antonio and Chocci as (mobile but poor scrummaging) props.

Also said France have one world class player in Fofana.

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Post by Fluxy Tue 13 Dec 2016, 10:36 am

Morning gents, Round three results are up and Round Four conditions are in place for this week. 

Will update tables and seedings later, but get your sides in on time!

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Post by Fluxy Fri 16 Dec 2016, 9:16 am

Guys, will look to update this weeks Euro pages at midday. So if you need to tweak or add tactics, please feel free to do so before 12.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 16 Dec 2016, 10:41 am

Anyone up for a deal before christmas?

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Dec 2016, 2:11 pm

Fluxy, all of my predos seem to be in my outbox and not sent box, could you confirm when you get them please? Ta!!
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Post by Fluxy Fri 16 Dec 2016, 2:33 pm

prop_lyd wrote:Fluxy, all of my predos seem to be in my outbox and not sent box, could you confirm when you get them please? Ta!!

Got them mate, I don't usually read them until I do results - so they would usually be in your outbox until then.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 16 Dec 2016, 2:37 pm

This is a bit of a shocker at a young age! http://www.planetrugby.com/news/goosen-in-shock-retirement-at-24/

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Dec 2016, 2:50 pm

Ok cheers Fluxy.

I was just about to post about Goosen....beat me to it!
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Post by Guest Fri 16 Dec 2016, 3:45 pm

Wow what a shock:

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Useful for me as covered 3 positions to high standard

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 17 Dec 2016, 6:57 pm

Whocares thinks this might be a trick to get out of his contract and he might be back and playing in SA
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Post by prop_lyd Sat 17 Dec 2016, 8:49 pm

Mon Connacht!!
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Post by Fluxy Mon 19 Dec 2016, 10:28 am

Out on work lunch today, most likely will update this weeks thread and do results tomorrow morning!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 19 Dec 2016, 2:50 pm

Very odd with Goosen. Probably worth keeping hold of Matt, I imagine we may see him again. Never quite took his impressive club form to the Int stage, apparently was a bit of mare to manage.

Castrogiovani retires.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 20 Dec 2016, 10:48 am

Looking to get one or two more EQ plays for the front five, have these guys available if of anyone is making some deals.

PR Wyatt Crockett (New Zealand) (1)
LK/BS Vaea Fifita (Tonga)
LK/BS Michael Paterson (England)
LK Paul Jedrasiak (France)
OS/BS Jack Lamb (Samoa)
OS Luke Wallace (England)
SH Cobus Reinach (South Africa)
FH Toby Flood (England)
CE/FH Matt Giteau (Australia)
CE Alex Dunbar (Scotland)
WG Frank Halai (New Zealand)
FB Ben Foden (England)
WG/CE Matt Banahan (England)

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Post by Fluxy Tue 20 Dec 2016, 11:09 am

Could be interested mate OK

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 20 Dec 2016, 4:42 pm

Ill be more help with team sheets when the holidays are over Flux, been a bit manic lately

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Post by BamBam Wed 21 Dec 2016, 10:04 am

What kind of deadlines are we likely working to for predos, next set of teamsheets etc?

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Post by BamBam Wed 21 Dec 2016, 3:32 pm

Budgets updated, as always shout if you think I've missed something

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Post by Guest Wed 21 Dec 2016, 7:07 pm

Top 10 players of year from
Kiwi media https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.balls.ie/amp/rugby/stuff-co-nz-top-10-players-of-2016/354996?client=safari

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Post by Guest Wed 21 Dec 2016, 8:20 pm

These rankings are complex.

You would think 1st seed would have 8th seed in their group and so on. With 2nd seed having 7th seed in their group. Having the tiers works but the random nature of the draw of second tier and third tier will nearly always lead to a "group of death "

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/11/28/england-could-face-another-world-cup-pool-death-despite-no-2/amp/?client=safari

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 22 Dec 2016, 3:57 am

anonmattyt wrote:Top 10 players of year from
Kiwi media https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.balls.ie/amp/rugby/stuff-co-nz-top-10-players-of-2016/354996?client=safari

Jamie Heaslip Laugh

He's had 2 good games in 5 years.....against the AB's!

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Post by Guest Thu 22 Dec 2016, 8:34 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:Top 10 players of year from
Kiwi media https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.balls.ie/amp/rugby/stuff-co-nz-top-10-players-of-2016/354996?client=safari

Jamie Heaslip Laugh

He's had 2 good games in 5 years.....against the AB's!

IRB world player of year nominee also.
Judges include stacks of ex players and coaches for both awards who have a great understanding of the game.

Personally I thought most interesting part was itoje at number 2. Shows how respected he is by even kiwi journalists. They are usually damning of England players and you would not expect someone in their first year of international rugby to feature.
Shows how bloody good he is. Future captain and absolute machine.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 22 Dec 2016, 8:43 am

The Heaslip nominee was generally though of as a joke too, even the Irish think so. 2 good games against the AB's and generally average for the last 5 years sums it for me.

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Post by Fluxy Thu 22 Dec 2016, 9:08 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:The Heaslip nominee was generally though of as a joke too, even the Irish think so. 2 good games against the AB's and generally average for the last 5 years sums it for me.

He's not being judged on the past five years though  Whistle

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Post by Fluxy Thu 22 Dec 2016, 9:09 am

BamBam wrote:What kind of deadlines are we likely working to for predos, next set of teamsheets etc?

Trying to keep to the deadlines as much as possible mate. I will only have limited time to amend the pages etc.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 22 Dec 2016, 9:11 am

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Sgt_Pooly wrote:The Heaslip nominee was generally though of as a joke too, even the Irish think so. 2 good games against the AB's and generally average for the last 5 years sums it for me.

He's not being judged on the past five years though  Whistle

I understand this. It looks like he's been on 2 games against NZ which makes a laughing stock of the list tbh.

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Post by Fluxy Thu 22 Dec 2016, 9:17 am

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Sgt_Pooly wrote:The Heaslip nominee was generally though of as a joke too, even the Irish think so. 2 good games against the AB's and generally average for the last 5 years sums it for me.

He's not being judged on the past five years though  Whistle

I understand this. It looks like he's been on 2 games against NZ which makes a laughing stock of the list tbh.

I would say his past 12 months have been much improved from where he has been over the past few years. Can't remember who is on the list, and couldn't think of someone that immediately jumps in other than Dagg or Isa. There was another on the list that I thought had snuck their way on there.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 22 Dec 2016, 9:22 am

Fluxy wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Fluxy wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:The Heaslip nominee was generally though of as a joke too, even the Irish think so. 2 good games against the AB's and generally average for the last 5 years sums it for me.

He's not being judged on the past five years though  Whistle

I understand this. It looks like he's been on 2 games against NZ which makes a laughing stock of the list tbh.

I would say his past 12 months have been much improved from where he has been over the past few years. Can't remember who is on the list, and couldn't think of someone that immediately jumps in other than Dagg or Isa. There was another on the list that I thought had snuck their way on there.

I think his last 2 games are making people forget how average he's been for such a long time tbh, but see your point. He's certainly shouldn't be in any list of top 10 players imo, he's not even one of the best in his position in the NH.

Anyway.......going to struggle to get on over the next few weeks as I'll be away for the holidays. At best, should be on my phone so I'll do what I can.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 22 Dec 2016, 9:28 am

Heaslip would have been behind Murray & Stander in performances for Ireland this year. Not a dig at Matts players but not sure what Folau has done to be on the list this year. Most Aussies lamenting his loss of form this year. Itoje had a great year but 2nd best in the world? Not for me anyway.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 22 Dec 2016, 9:30 am

Totally agree with that Johnny. Could also throw in McGrath, Best, Toner, Henshaw who have better years than Heaslip.

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