5000-1 - The 2016/17 Premier League thread

[Crimey]

First topic message reminder :

Also, considering mine and pretty much everybody's doubts Mane has been a fantastic signing.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Kane has something like 8 goals in 8 games against Chelsea/Arsenal. He terrorised Chelsea in their last title winning season - made Terrry look like a complete novice in the 5-3 win.  I think his record against Liverpool and City is decent as well. He's a top quality striker - you don't score 20+ goals in successive seasons in the Premier League before your 23rd birthday if you aren't special.

Aided by the generally pathetic defending on display in the premier league.

Much like everywhere else then

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Mike Dean needs to be demoted

[Jermaine2015]

Liverpool once again showing they've got no business contending in the title battle. Woeful team without any stand out players.

[owen10ozzy]

And Arsenal doing their best to make Liverpools slip ups look like nothing in comparison.. the usual festive season collapse is at it again down at the Emirates. Always been a big fan of Wenger but his time is definitely up...never addressed the Midfield steel issue at club since Viera went and in a game which has shifted massively in England in terms of tactics he has been stubborn with no end result in terms of progression in last 5 years. Cant say lack of winners in side as he has Cech..Mertesacker...Ozil...Sanchez...Giroud...also plenty of older heads to guide youngsters.

[GSC]

Well. That happened.


Also Mike Phelan sacked

[Scott is Back]

Arsenal should be docked points for Giroud's appalling celebration!

[LivinginItaly]

Seriously need Tottenham to beat Chelsea tonight otherwise the premier league risks becoming a procession this year. Chelsea's biggest attribute? Their solid defence and their level of consistency.

[Crimey]

The next big test for Chelsea will be how they bounce back when their winning streak ends.

[lfc91]

Seriously need Tottenham to beat Chelsea tonight otherwise the premier league risks becoming a procession this year. Chelsea's biggest attribute? Their solid defence and their level of consistency.

Yes starting to look like the main entertainment will come from the top 4 race. Every team from 2-6 has a good chance of grabbing 2nd, 3rd or 4th. Very close.

[eirebilly]

Liverpool once again showing they've got no business contending in the title battle. Woeful team without any stand out players.

Really? They are second in the league because of their consistency, their issue is that they can beat the top teams but a way to prone to dropping points to lower teams. I was hoping that Klopp will have changed that mentality but sadly he has not yet. They have every right to be in the title fight.

[eirebilly]

Seriously need Tottenham to beat Chelsea tonight otherwise the premier league risks becoming a procession this year. Chelsea's biggest attribute? Their solid defence and their level of consistency.

Chelsea are simply too strong, a very very good side. That said, if they were to lose Costa to an injury for a few weeks I wonder how they would perform then. He seems to be the man that raises that team constantly.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Seriously need Tottenham to beat Chelsea tonight otherwise the premier league risks becoming a procession this year. Chelsea's biggest attribute? Their solid defence and their level of consistency.

Chelsea are simply too strong, a very very good side. That said, if they were to lose Costa to an injury for a few weeks I wonder how they would perform then. He seems to be the man that raises that team constantly.

The main thing in Chelsea's favour is that they've had no European football to deal with - makes quite a big difference of the course of the season imo

[lfc91]

Seriously need Tottenham to beat Chelsea tonight otherwise the premier league risks becoming a procession this year. Chelsea's biggest attribute? Their solid defence and their level of consistency.

Chelsea are simply too strong, a very very good side. That said, if they were to lose Costa to an injury for a few weeks I wonder how they would perform then. He seems to be the man that raises that team constantly.

The main thing in Chelsea's favour is that they've had no European football to deal with - makes quite a big difference of the course of the season imo

Really is a key factor in the league considering the teams currently sitting 1st and 2nd! (Difference being Chelsea have a stronger squad, better defense and striker in red hot form).

[GSC]

Marco Silva to take over at Hull apparently

[Born Slippy]

Huge game tonight. In my view, these are the two best all-round sides in the league. Spurs have finally started to click after a sluggish start to the season and, if anyone can stop Chelsea, it should be them.

If Chelsea win tonight, it's surely all over for the chasing pack. If they lose, then the trips to Leicester and Liverpool this month suddenly look a lot trickier.

[TRUSSMAN66]

Tottenham are dark horses...Good enough to beat anybody but not consistent enough..

Neutrals love Tottenham and why not..

Chelsea shouldn't be too upset..They still look good money.

Arsenal..City....Liverpool too fragile...Utd too much to do.

[eirebilly]

[Holymiky]

Surpised more people haven't come out saying stuff about Chelsea losing, it's what usually happens on here.

[Born Slippy]

Impressive from Spurs. I think they are the most likely challengers to Chelsea and, if there was a combined team, I would have more Spurs' players than Chelsea in it (7-4). If Chelsea drop points next time out at the champions then the title race starts to get interesting.

Lloris 

Alderwiereld
Vertonghen
Cahill

Walker
Rose

Kante 
Dembele

Hazard
Alli

Costa

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Lips and Willian definitely make it in for me, Azpilicueta too.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

If you think Gary Cahill is Chelsea's best centre back I suggest a trip to specsavers is required

[Born Slippy]

If you think Gary Cahill is Chelsea's best centre back I suggest a trip to specsavers is required

Well, that leaves David Luiz, who I don't rate at all. Sure though, put him in instead if you like.

[GSC]

Seems the demise of Alli was somewhat premature

[Crimey]

Willian doesn't even make Chelsea's first XI never mind a combined team.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

He comes in and out, and I would have him over Alli currently who has only recently hit form again. Or Pedro, who has been excellent. They rotate and I prefer Willian.

Louis is currently the best centre back in the league

[Nathaniel Jacobs]

Matty Phillips looks a great little player, maybe a player suitable for one of the bigger clubs

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Diego Costa reportedly offered £30m a year to play in China after a huge training ground bust up where Conte reportedly shouted "GO TO CHINA" at him. Hasnt travelled to Leicester

[Guest]

Andy Carroll has just scored a bit of a bloody good goal.

Dimitri who?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Andy Carroll has just scored a bit of a bloody good goal.

Dimitri who?

Payet

The best player they've had in 30 years

[owen10ozzy]

30 years??

Thats a big shout Olly..

Boro with a rubbish result today, need to start building momentum asap...although luckily there are 3 worse teams than us this season

[westisbest]

Dicanio?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Dicanio?

Overrated - Payet a much better all round player

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Dicanio?

Overrated - Payet a much better all round player

You're a bit too young to have seen how good he was for us. People play the goal, a bit of his strops and some turns, but he was a driving force behind the whole side. And did it for us for longer.

Tevez would be up there on pure talent but not there long enough, but Rio is probably a better player than him and Payet. But we missed his peak, whereas we've had Payet's. Still think before this week most West Ham fans would have told you Di Canio > Payet until the latter had done more than a year, and now he'll never do it.

[westisbest]

Don't watch as much football these days compared to years ago, so only seen bits of Payet, he's a quality player.

Di Canio was a joy to watch.
That goal against Wimbledon was special.

On West Ham. Saw Carrolls goal from yesterday.
Fantastic finish.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Insanely good from Andy. I prefer Lanzini's in terms of the skill, but many can do it. You don't get many doing what Andy did

[Fernando]

Vs



Fancy a comfy United win looking at the teams.

[Fernando]

FT Everton 4-0 Man City - Lukaku, Mirallas, Davies, Lookman

[Fernando]

Joel Matip denied clearance by Cameroon to play for Liverpool.

[Fernando]

HT Manchester United 0-1 Liverpool - Milner from the spot after Pognonce dabbed at a corner to give it away.

[owen10ozzy]

Wow...Everton...Man City have been average this season but that I did not see coming. Those who argued Pep has been lucky to walk into teams which have already been built for him are beginning to look like their view was justified.

Tactically he isn't getting it right at all...if he should have learnt anything before coming to the EPL its that his Tika Taka football tends not to get you over the line in English football anymore..one only needs to look at Arsenals last decade to see that.

[Born Slippy]

Decent match between United and Liverpool. Pogba was beyond bad and Liverpool deserved to win in my view. Rooney was excellent when he came on - the United midfield gave the ball away too much and he added some composure.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Decent match between United and Liverpool. Pogba was beyond bad and Liverpool deserved to win in my view. Rooney was excellent when he came on - the United midfield gave the ball away too much and he added some composure.

You did watch the second half where Rooney spent most of the time giving the ball away right?

Astounded Rashford wasn't brought on. Liverpool showing exactly why they won't win the title again - not good enough in defence. Mignolet bailed them out on many occasions (which as we all know won't happen often)

[Guest]

Wow...Everton...Man City have been average this season but that I did not see coming. Those who argued Pep has been lucky to walk into teams which have already been built for him are beginning to look like their view was justified.

Tactically he isn't getting it right at all...if he should have learnt anything before coming to the EPL its that his Tika Taka football tends not to get you over the line in English football anymore..one only needs to look at Arsenals last decade to see that.

He won't see out the 3 years. Doesn't look as if he fancies it.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Cant believe anyone would think Liverpool deserved to win that! All the chances were Man United's, in a game where there weren't many. Draw just about fair considering how long it took United to score.

[Born Slippy]

United had the better chances but Liverpool were the classier team, especially away from home. It's still a good point for them though - they won't win the league so keeping United 5 points adrift is good for them.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Oh definitely a great point for them (and for Chelsea!)

[sirfredperry]

Good results today for the other top teams, with Man City, Man U and L'pool all dropping points.

[Afro]

Dicanio?

Overrated - Payet a much better all round player

Don't talk nonsense Olly. You normally know your football but that is plain daft.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Andy Carroll has just scored a bit of a bloody good goal.

Dimitri who?

Payet

The best player they've had in 30 years

I think Ferdinand, Cole and Lampard might have something to say about that.

[compelling and rich]

one good season and payets the best player in the last 30 years? wheres he been this season. on that logic michael ricketts is one of the best prem strikers

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