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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 08 Jan 2017, 8:50 pm

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Pr4wn wrote:Love this Texans D. They're amazing without Watt. Scary.

Amazing is a bit far - they're pretty good, nothing special.

Number one D in the NFL without their best player.

They're one of about 8 teams to hold that tag - and lets face it it's measured in yards...in points the #1 D was the Pats.

No great defences out there this year, just a lot of pretty good ones. If they had Watt, maybe they'd be great...but they don't
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Post by Pr4wn Mon 23 Jan 2017, 11:43 pm

Falcons against Patriots.

Is there any way they can both lose?

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Post by skins4ever Tue 24 Jan 2017, 12:28 am

Pr4wn wrote:Falcons against Patriots.

Is there any way they can both lose?

Very Happy

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Post by Number-25 Tue 24 Jan 2017, 4:41 pm

westisbest wrote:Goooooo Dolphins.

Err, ok maybe next time.

Really trying to get into American Football.
One small step at a time.


Good man! A few general rules that if you follow mean you won't go too far wrong:-

1. Hate on Tom Brady
2. Hate on the Patriots in general
3. There is no "3"... stick to rules 1 and 2 and you will survive any NFL discussion

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Post by skins4ever Sat 28 Jan 2017, 2:54 pm

So who's watching the Pro Bowl?...

Funny how it always seems to go quiet in here Pro Bowl week. Since they moved it before the SB I can't help thinking it actually detracts from the SB by interrupting the build up.

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Post by GSC Sat 28 Jan 2017, 3:24 pm

It's just a pointless game.

Nobody plays hard, the skills challenge is the way to go, sack the game off and extend that
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 28 Jan 2017, 3:36 pm

Skills challenge was good fun actually
The pro bowl is not
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Post by skins4ever Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:14 pm

Agreed. They'd actually be better making it a flag game and have skills challenge and the flag game add up to a final score to determine which team is the winner. Make it really competitive without half the risk of injury.

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Post by Number-25 Mon 30 Jan 2017, 2:57 pm

Hey look! Kirk Cousins closes out the Pro Bowl with a late interception with the NFC driving to tie the score! Who'd have thought it???

Give that man $100m!!

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Post by Lowlandbrit Mon 30 Jan 2017, 7:05 pm

49ers have hired John Lynch as their new GM. First front office job, but he worked for Fox; aka the Matt Millen package.

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Post by skins4ever Tue 31 Jan 2017, 12:13 am

Number-25 wrote:Hey look! Kirk Cousins closes out the Pro Bowl with a late interception with the NFC driving to tie the score! Who'd have thought it???

Give that man $100m!!

To be fair on him, Graham dropped it - he had a fit of dropsies all night. And Cousins did chase it down and force a fumble. Can't say he's not competitive.

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Post by Number-25 Tue 31 Jan 2017, 10:10 am

Yeah, Graham should have caught it but the throw was off target... he threw it to his back shoulder when he should have been leading Graham into the endzone or at the very least, just sticking it between the numbers. It was Cousins' season in a nutshell.... moved the offense up and down the field but at the crucial moment, he was off by just enough to give the game away.

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Post by mikeygnfl Thu 02 Feb 2017, 4:41 pm

Number-25 wrote:Hey look! Kirk Cousins closes out the Pro Bowl with a late interception with the NFC driving to tie the score! Who'd have thought it???

Give that man $100m!!
Apparently Kyle Shanahan is interested in taking Kirk Cousins to San Francisco. Or then Cousins and his agent could just be using them as leverage.

The Browns are interested in Jimmy Garoppolo.
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Post by TM Moot Fri 03 Feb 2017, 10:41 am

skins4ever wrote:So who's watching the Pro Bowl?...

So who's watching the Superbowl?

I'm up at 06.15, so may try to watch the first half. Record the rest, then avoid the web until I get home in evening.

Would have taken day off if the Pack had made it but it wasn't too be... Crying or Very sad

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Post by Pr4wn Fri 03 Feb 2017, 9:34 pm

Hooray, it's on at a normal for me! I'm having a few people round mine for a little party.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 03 Feb 2017, 10:00 pm

I will obviously be watching live

I can't see how we keep Atlanta under 35 points, so it's gonna be upto Brady and co to keep up which if on their game they can do.
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Post by Pr4wn Fri 03 Feb 2017, 10:12 pm

Was having a good chat about this with some friends last night.

One said to me "I think the Falcons will win, I'm going to put $20 on them" to which I replied "If you had to bet everything you own on either team, who would it be?".

Patriots, of course.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 03 Feb 2017, 10:19 pm

I do think if you took away the "mystique" of the pats and just looked at it as two teams straight up, the pick should be Atlanta. All time great offence and improving quick defence.
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Post by Pr4wn Fri 03 Feb 2017, 10:31 pm

But, if you had to put everything you own on one team, it would be the Patriots.

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Post by skins4ever Sat 04 Feb 2017, 1:01 pm

If someone forced me at gunpoint I'd have to go with the Pats because of Brady and Bilichick. But I think the Falcons have got a very good chance. Their O is better than the Pats and probably the best they have faced all year, and their D has been improving at just the right time. I don't hate on the Pats, I'd just like to see Atlanta get one in the win column. Its about time another of the winless teams joined the club.

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Post by aucklandlaurie Sat 04 Feb 2017, 8:22 pm

Couple of interesting remarks from Falcons coach Dan Quinn.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/all-blacks/news/article.cfm?c_id=116&objectid=11794643

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Post by GSC Sun 05 Feb 2017, 12:16 am

Jason Taylor is in the HoF before TO.

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Post by GSC Sun 05 Feb 2017, 12:51 am

It gets better, a ****ing kicker got voted in.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 05 Feb 2017, 1:45 pm

The hall is a joke anyways

Voting a kicker with the 51st highest field goal accuracy in over the guy with the 2nd most receiving yards and 3rd most TDs just confirms it
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Post by Guest Sun 05 Feb 2017, 2:21 pm

Olly, throw me a tip. You got the first TD spot on last year if I remember correctly? Hug

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Post by GSC Sun 05 Feb 2017, 2:59 pm

Take the under on total points
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Post by Guest Sun 05 Feb 2017, 3:49 pm

58 does look too much.

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Post by GSC Sun 05 Feb 2017, 3:54 pm

It's purely off the Falcons last 2 games when they rolled up points on an injured Seahawks D and a terrible GB D. Belichicks crew should put up some resistance with an injured Julio and Mack
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Post by Guest Sun 05 Feb 2017, 4:02 pm

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 05 Feb 2017, 6:00 pm

FreekShow wrote:Olly, throw me a tip. You got the first TD spot on last year if I remember correctly?   Hug

25/1 on the Denver D I believe.

This year first TD, just based purely off value - Tom Brady at 80/1 is surely too good to pass a few quid on. Taylor Gabriel at 20/1 another worth a punt on

Otherwise I like the following (all with Skybet)

Malcolm Mitchell over 50 receiving yards and a TD = 5/1
Field goal miss - yes = 13/8
Matt Ryan over 320 passing yards = 10/11
Dion Lewis over 40 rushing yards = 10/11
Austin Hooper over 17 receiving yards = 10/11
Mohamed Sanu over 45 receiving yards = 10/11

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Post by twelve283 Sun 05 Feb 2017, 7:40 pm

Go Pats!

I like our chances better tonight if we can stop the Falcons from running the ball and obviously we can't afford to have a down game on offence.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 06 Feb 2017, 12:47 am

Patriots literally couldn't be playing worse if they tried right now
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Post by crazy_dave23 Mon 06 Feb 2017, 12:48 am

Atlanta cruising right now... and with the 2nd half kickoff

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Post by Number-25 Mon 06 Feb 2017, 12:55 am

twelve283 wrote:Go Pats!

I like our chances better tonight if we can stop the Falcons from running the ball and obviously we can't afford to have a down game on offence.

And I guess a 21-0 2nd quarter scoreline in favour of Atlanta is what happens if you dont get either of those things.

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Post by Number-25 Mon 06 Feb 2017, 1:05 am

In the grand scheme of things, it's not the major point of the evening but it does need to be said...... how bad is Osi Umenyiora at punditry??? For an ex-player, he offers a pitiful amount of insight.

On a brighter note though... at least we can all get to bed at a respectable time.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 06 Feb 2017, 1:11 am

Worst half NE has played since Kansas city in 2014

Playcalling has been atrocious, players worse. Could you please run it up the middle for no gain to get us into 3rd and 7 more please Josh, it's working great
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Post by Guest Mon 06 Feb 2017, 1:27 am

Gaga just owned that sh!t. Whadda performer.

It's a yes from me.

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Post by twelve283 Mon 06 Feb 2017, 1:36 am

And I guess a 21-0 2nd quarter scoreline in favour of Atlanta is what happens if you dont get either of those things.

Pretty much...
Obviously we need the stop at the start of the half, get Blount out because we clearly can't run the ball in that personnel.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Mon 06 Feb 2017, 2:02 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Patriots literally couldn't be playing worse if they tried right now
Patriots doing pretty much exactly what everyone was afraid the Falcons would do. Bennett's basically the only guy doing anything.

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Post by Guest Mon 06 Feb 2017, 2:43 am

Interesting.

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Post by Guest Mon 06 Feb 2017, 2:50 am

Catch of the season? Amazing.

Edit: And all for nothing.

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Post by Guest Mon 06 Feb 2017, 3:07 am

This is unreal.

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Post by crazy_dave23 Mon 06 Feb 2017, 3:08 am

Atlanta's 4th Quarter so far... picard

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 06 Feb 2017, 3:16 am

Whatever happens Tom Brady is the GOAT
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Post by Guest Mon 06 Feb 2017, 3:28 am

WOW, just wow. They're never beaten.

How sick must Julio Jones feel right now? Makes an incredible catch in the 4th quarter and its not even converted into a field goal. That woulda probably killed it.

That final 15 minutes or so was great viewing. Brady is GOD!

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Post by Guest Mon 06 Feb 2017, 3:29 am

And Edelman was a giant down the stretch, there.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 06 Feb 2017, 3:30 am

Thomas Brady you are utterly ridiculous
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Post by Guest Mon 06 Feb 2017, 3:33 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Thomas Brady you are utterly ridiculous

Grant Holt-esque!

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Post by twelve283 Mon 06 Feb 2017, 3:39 am

WTF just happened? That catch!

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Post by GSC Mon 06 Feb 2017, 7:02 am

Good Lord there are chokes and then there are chokes
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Post by Number-25 Mon 06 Feb 2017, 9:37 am

Move over the Houston Oilers.... meet the Atlanta Falcons... the new owners of the biggest choke in NFL history.

WTF happened???? I went to bed at 21-3 after the Patriots had started the second half with the sloppiest of sloppy 3 and outs. "This game is done" I thought. Really, WTF happened???

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