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6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb
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Scotland vs Wales
Date: Saturday 25th February 2017
Venue: BT Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
Kick Off: 2:25pm
Referee: John Lacey (Ireland)
TV Coverage: Live on BBC
Weather Update
Teams
Scotland
1. Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors)
2. Faiser Brown (Glasgow Warriors)
3. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors)
4. Richie Gray (Toulouse)
5. Johnny Gray (Glasgow Warriors)
6. John Barclay (C) (Scarlets)
7. John Hardie (Edinburgh)
8. Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors)
9. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors)
10. Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors)
11. Tim Visser (Harlequins)
12. Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors)
13. Huw Jones (Stormers)
14. Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors)
15. Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors)
Replacements
16 Ross Ford (Edinburgh)
17 Allan Dell (Edinburgh)
18 Simon Berghan (Edinburgh)
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors)
20 Hamish Watson (Edinburgh)
21 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors)
22 Duncan Weir (Edinburgh)
23 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors)
Wales
1 Rob Evans (Scarlets)
2 Ken Owens (Scarlets)
3 Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs)
4 Jake Ball (Scarlets)
5 Alun Wyn Jones (C) (Ospreys)
6 Sam Warburton (Cardiff Blues)
7 Justin Tipuric (Ospreys)
8 Ross Moriarty (Gloucester)
9 Rhys Webb (Ospreys)
10 Dan Biggar (Ospreys)
11 Liam Williams (Scarlets)
12 Scott Williams (Scarlets)
13 Jonathan Davies (Scarlets)
14 George North (Northampton)
15 Leigh Halfpenny (Toulon)
Replacements
16 Scott Baldwin (Ospreys)
17 Nicky Smith (Ospreys)
18 Samson Lee (Scarlets)
19 Luke Charteris (Bath)
20 Taulupe Faletau (Dragons)
21 Gareth Davies (Scarlets)
22 Sam Davies (Ospreys)
23 Jamie Roberts (Harlequins)
Scotland vs Wales
Date: Saturday 25th February 2017
Venue: BT Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
Kick Off: 2:25pm
Referee: John Lacey (Ireland)
TV Coverage: Live on BBC
Weather Update
Teams
Scotland
1. Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors)
2. Faiser Brown (Glasgow Warriors)
3. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors)
4. Richie Gray (Toulouse)
5. Johnny Gray (Glasgow Warriors)
6. John Barclay (C) (Scarlets)
7. John Hardie (Edinburgh)
8. Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors)
9. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors)
10. Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors)
11. Tim Visser (Harlequins)
12. Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors)
13. Huw Jones (Stormers)
14. Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors)
15. Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors)
Replacements
16 Ross Ford (Edinburgh)
17 Allan Dell (Edinburgh)
18 Simon Berghan (Edinburgh)
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors)
20 Hamish Watson (Edinburgh)
21 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors)
22 Duncan Weir (Edinburgh)
23 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors)
Wales
1 Rob Evans (Scarlets)
2 Ken Owens (Scarlets)
3 Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs)
4 Jake Ball (Scarlets)
5 Alun Wyn Jones (C) (Ospreys)
6 Sam Warburton (Cardiff Blues)
7 Justin Tipuric (Ospreys)
8 Ross Moriarty (Gloucester)
9 Rhys Webb (Ospreys)
10 Dan Biggar (Ospreys)
11 Liam Williams (Scarlets)
12 Scott Williams (Scarlets)
13 Jonathan Davies (Scarlets)
14 George North (Northampton)
15 Leigh Halfpenny (Toulon)
Replacements
16 Scott Baldwin (Ospreys)
17 Nicky Smith (Ospreys)
18 Samson Lee (Scarlets)
19 Luke Charteris (Bath)
20 Taulupe Faletau (Dragons)
21 Gareth Davies (Scarlets)
22 Sam Davies (Ospreys)
23 Jamie Roberts (Harlequins)
Last edited by bsando on Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:28 pm; edited 12 times in total
bsando- Posts : 4650
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb
Scotland very flat with no spark, and we've had no territory for 20 minutes
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb
Clear pull on Seymour!
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb
The whining to the ref from the Welsh players is very disappointing. It's almost like football and at every other breakdown.
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb
Needless from Webb - we were in a lot of trouble there anyway
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Webb really is one of those old school cheeky scrum halves who tries all the little tricks.
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb
formerly known as Sam wrote:The whining to the ref from the Welsh players is very disappointing. It's almost like football and at every other breakdown.
I agree Sam, and the ref should do something about it to shut them up. Its something that's coming in rugby more and more.
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb
GeordieFalcon wrote:formerly known as Sam wrote:The whining to the ref from the Welsh players is very disappointing. It's almost like football and at every other breakdown.
I agree Sam, and the ref should do something about it to shut them up. Its something that's coming in rugby more and more.
Just pick a victim and give a penalty. Call both captains over and say it's now zero tolerance. After that it'll disappear.
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb
Hamish Watson has ridiculous power in contact. Scotland just need to clone a few more of him and give him the ball.
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb
Has the offside line been removed?
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Why we fannying about with the ball so near our 22? Just get rid of it!
Not overly combined by Wales' back feet offside so far
Not overly combined by Wales' back feet offside so far
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tigertattie wrote:Has the offside line been removed?
It would seem so for Biggar
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formerly known as Sam wrote:GeordieFalcon wrote:formerly known as Sam wrote:The whining to the ref from the Welsh players is very disappointing. It's almost like football and at every other breakdown.
I agree Sam, and the ref should do something about it to shut them up. Its something that's coming in rugby more and more.
Just pick a victim and give a penalty. Call both captains over and say it's now zero tolerance. After that it'll disappear.
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Ridiculous call. The tacklers didn't roll away and the Scottish players couldn't reach the breakdown.
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Big hit of Gray but none of the tacklers moved out the way after
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Why do Scotland play a tight head who can't scrummage?
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Some big calls going against us just now - we desperately need some possession and territory
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True Raven wrote:Why do Scotland play a tight head who can't scrummage?
We've run out of props
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That got the crowd going
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Lacey is not being consistent with the tackle release. Not even close. The Scottish support was far too slow there, though.
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Another class move by Hogg. Shame about the finish.
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I'd take 13-9 given how little territory we've had!
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Only one side are playing hard and hot enough for International so far. The Scottish boys have to suck in air now and become much more aggressive when Wales are in possession.
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb
Forget the pull before it, but embarrassing attempt on Liam Williams by Hogg before that.
Very physical game. Suits Wales more that, when it's an arm wrestle surely?
Very physical game. Suits Wales more that, when it's an arm wrestle surely?
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb
That said North made one shocking attempt too
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Welsh tackling and Lacey's whistle seem to be dominating at the moment. Right team is winning but not always the best spectacle. Liam William's try and some magic from Hogg at the end there are the high points
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb
Seems to me Wales have their leader AWJ at the forefront of battle and Scotlands leader is currently injured
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True Raven wrote:Seems to me Wales have their leader AWJ at the forefront of battle and Scotlands leader is currently injured
Will be interesting to see if he makes any dodgy calls as he did when outplayed in the England game.
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Why did no Scottish player say that it was a maul from a kick?? Am I missing something?
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Outplayed?? What game did you watch? England won at the death not some walk overnathan wrote:True Raven wrote:Seems to me Wales have their leader AWJ at the forefront of battle and Scotlands leader is currently injured
Will be interesting to see if he makes any dodgy calls as he did when outplayed in the England game.
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Scotland will have to play an unbelievable half to win this.
The first half has epitomsied why Wilson will never be an international 8 - he is being destroyed every time he takes the ball into contact.
The first half has epitomsied why Wilson will never be an international 8 - he is being destroyed every time he takes the ball into contact.
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True Raven wrote:Outplayed?? What game did you watch? England won at the death not some walk overnathan wrote:True Raven wrote:Seems to me Wales have their leader AWJ at the forefront of battle and Scotlands leader is currently injured
Will be interesting to see if he makes any dodgy calls as he did when outplayed in the England game.
He chose to go for touch twice instead of the sticks, with halfpenny in your rants it was daft. It was a Chris robshaw moment
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See. When we go wide we make headway.
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Good start for Scotland.
They are relying on a bit of magic from the backs to make any ground, though. The pack needs to front up. The backs are extremely dangerous but they need some of the forwards to punch a few holes.
They are relying on a bit of magic from the backs to make any ground, though. The pack needs to front up. The backs are extremely dangerous but they need some of the forwards to punch a few holes.
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Great try but smashed round the neck in the process - what happened to the new high tackle directive??
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RDW_Scotland wrote:Great try but smashed round the neck in the process - what happened to the new high tackle directive??
Wales and Ireland are immune from that rule.
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Lol Lacey, sort out the breakdown.
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RDW_Scotland wrote:Great try but smashed round the neck in the process - what happened to the new high tackle directive??
He dived for the line so I think common sense prevailed.
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Scottish players having to do the hurdles to try and make a turn over
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Since when did we become so good in the air?!
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nathan wrote:True Raven wrote:Outplayed?? What game did you watch? England won at the death not some walk overnathan wrote:True Raven wrote:Seems to me Wales have their leader AWJ at the forefront of battle and Scotlands leader is currently injured
Will be interesting to see if he makes any dodgy calls as he did when outplayed in the England game.
He chose to go for touch twice instead of the sticks, with halfpenny in your rants it was daft. It was a Chris robshaw moment
But we will never know. Given Wales' failure to score any other tries they may well have lost the chance to score the one they did had they taken one of the penalties
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TightHEAD wrote:RDW_Scotland wrote:Great try but smashed round the neck in the process - what happened to the new high tackle directive??
Wales and Ireland are immune from that rule.
Getting your complaint list in early, Tight?
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RDW_Scotland wrote:Great try but smashed round the neck in the process - what happened to the new high tackle directive??
If Seymour hadn't scored, then it would only have been because of the tackle. Lacey's decision is consistent with the Ashley Beck incident in Ospreys against Munster but both should probably be judged illegal.
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Ah FFS such a soft penalty to give away
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All Scotland have to do now is run down the last thirty minutes.
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Great game in a NH way
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Get break Ali Price, got away with a forward pass!
What was that Dunbar?!
What was that Dunbar?!
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Pie crust? Really?
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Wales look so flat and out of ideas again.......
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I think sam Davies needs to come on now
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