Same Tim Cymru v J'ai une tour Eiffel dans mon pantalon

by munkian Wed 15 Mar 2017, 9:54 am

First topic message reminder :

Welsh squad remains the same for the showdown in Paris.

Would have swapped over Halfpenny and Williams personally

Halfpenny, North, Davies, S William, L Williams; Biggar, Webb; Evans, Owens, Francis, Ball, AW Jones (capt), Warburton, Tipuric, Moriarty.

Replacements: Baldwin, Smith, Lee, Charteris, Faletau, G Davies, S Davies, Roberts.

French team announced

Dulin - Nakaitaci, Fickou, Lamerat, Vakatawa - Lopez, Serin - Gourdon, Picamoles, Sanconnie - Maestri, Vahaamahina - Slimani, Guirado, Baille.

Les remplaçants : Chat, Atonio, Ben Arous, Le Devedec, Chouly, Trinh-Duc, Dupont, Huget

by Guest Sat 18 Mar 2017, 10:20 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
True Raven wrote:Really?? Of all refs you think he's bad? You should look at all the sh!te refs the Irish serve up in the pro12

None have come close to that poor performance by Barnes, this evening, Raven. I haven't seen such a poor display from any ref, in a long time. He is often inconsistent, but not as bad as was in that game. Probably his worse.

When you say "That game" you do mean "That game"?

Yes, I mean that game

The game that put Barnes on the International Rugby stage. in all the years since Barnes has never been that inconsistant. In fact I think hes improved a thousand per cent.

Ah, you're talking about the Kiwi game. I wasn't, and yes he has been that inconsistent since (such as today's game and Ireland v Wales a few seasons ago). Just not in a World Cup game.

by aucklandlaurie Sat 18 Mar 2017, 10:34 pm

Munchkin wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
True Raven wrote:Really?? Of all refs you think he's bad? You should look at all the sh!te refs the Irish serve up in the pro12

None have come close to that poor performance by Barnes, this evening, Raven. I haven't seen such a poor display from any ref, in a long time. He is often inconsistent, but not as bad as was in that game. Probably his worse.

When you say "That game" you do mean "That game"?

Yes, I mean that game

The game that put Barnes on the International Rugby stage. in all the years since Barnes has never been that inconsistant. In fact I think hes improved a thousand per cent.

Ah, you're talking about the Kiwi game. I wasn't, and yes he has been that inconsistent since (such as today's game and Ireland v Wales a few seasons ago). Just not in a World Cup game.

Yes, we refer to it as "that game" (If we refer to it directly or we get labelled as whingers), where he only refereed one side for an hour. I was going to reply to GunsGerms that he hadnt repeated the same thing since, but perhaps GG has a point when weve just seen a game, where one half took an hour alone and Wales didnt get a lot of favourable calls in that time.

by doctor_grey Sat 18 Mar 2017, 10:40 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:The finish of that game needs to be looked at again by the lawmakers, to have a situation where players are playing nearly a quarter of a game more than other players in other teams playing in the same competition is too much of a disparity.

At the 85 minute mark the hooter should just go and if the ball is not in play the ref just blows for full time or if the ball is in play, then the ref blows full time at the next tackle.

Agree with that 100%. Sometimes it just has to stop.

That was one of the weirdest finishes to a game I have seen in a long time.

by SecretFly Sat 18 Mar 2017, 10:48 pm

It was a weird and wonderful end............... everyone will have their own reasons about why and I'm sure they'll get an airing next week - but, it's a very rare thing indeed and therefore it doesn't require rule changes.

by whocares Sun 19 Mar 2017, 7:51 am

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
True Raven wrote:Really?? Of all refs you think he's bad? You should look at all the sh!te refs the Irish serve up in the pro12

None have come close to that poor performance by Barnes, this evening, Raven. I haven't seen such a poor display from any ref, in a long time. He is often inconsistent, but not as bad as was in that game. Probably his worse.

When you say "That game" you do mean "That game"?

Yes, I mean that game

The game that put Barnes on the International Rugby stage. in all the years since Barnes has never been that inconsistant. In fact I think hes improved a thousand per cent.

Ah, you're talking about the Kiwi game. I wasn't, and yes he has been that inconsistent since (such as today's game and Ireland v Wales a few seasons ago). Just not in a World Cup game.

Yes, we refer to it as "that game" (If we refer to it directly or we get labelled as whingers), where he only refereed one side for an hour. I was going to reply to GunsGerms that he hadnt repeated the same thing since, but perhaps GG has a point when weve just seen a game, where one half took an hour alone and Wales didnt get a lot of favourable calls in that time.

Wales didn't get a lot of favourable calls in the 2nd half ? Perhaps the 3rd half (last 20) where Wales got half of their penalties against them and that's only down to the refereee inability to control and close the game. Almost Everything before that went Wales way and yet we found a way to win and not moan like some one eyed kiwi do about some 20 year old game. Ffs NZ has won 2 WCs since!! What else do you want? Public apology from Barnes, the IRB , barack Obama and the pope ??

by aucklandlaurie Sun 19 Mar 2017, 8:05 am

whocares wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
True Raven wrote:Really?? Of all refs you think he's bad? You should look at all the sh!te refs the Irish serve up in the pro12

None have come close to that poor performance by Barnes, this evening, Raven. I haven't seen such a poor display from any ref, in a long time. He is often inconsistent, but not as bad as was in that game. Probably his worse.

When you say "That game" you do mean "That game"?

Yes, I mean that game

The game that put Barnes on the International Rugby stage. in all the years since Barnes has never been that inconsistant. In fact I think hes improved a thousand per cent.

Ah, you're talking about the Kiwi game. I wasn't, and yes he has been that inconsistent since (such as today's game and Ireland v Wales a few seasons ago). Just not in a World Cup game.

Yes, we refer to it as "that game" (If we refer to it directly or we get labelled as whingers), where he only refereed one side for an hour. I was going to reply to GunsGerms that he hadnt repeated the same thing since, but perhaps GG has a point when weve just seen a game, where one half took an hour alone and Wales didnt get a lot of favourable calls in that time.

Wales didn't get a lot of favourable calls in the 2nd half ? Perhaps the 3rd half (last 20) where Wales got half of their penalties against them and that's only down to the refereee inability to control and close the game. Almost Everything before that went Wales way and yet we found a way to win and not moan like some one eyed kiwi do about some 20 year old game. Ffs NZ has won 2 WCs since!! What else do you want? Public apology from Barnes, the IRB , barack Obama and the pope ??

So you can appreciate why we refer to it as "that game" so that people dont label us whingers or in your case accuse us of moaning.

by Guest Sun 19 Mar 2017, 8:14 am

Didn't watch the game but read about it

Barnes is a special kind of special

A special ref

'That ref'

by **RiscaGame** Sun 19 Mar 2017, 8:15 am

majesticimperialman wrote:I don't like blaming the ref for a team losing. But i do think that Barnes had it for France.

Wales through JD deliberately knock on and it is a penalty only.

France do the same type of knock on 5 minutes later and it is a yellow card.

Clearly in Wales favour.

Although Wales did not look like scoring any tries at all.

It still does not alter the fact 2 same offences 2 different out comes.

Not that any of your contributions on this thread make any sense, but what are you on about with regards to blaming a ref for a team losing and France? Have a whiff mun.

by **RiscaGame** Sun 19 Mar 2017, 8:26 am

Very poor form from the same poster to question a ref's integrity again. But he's Irish and they don't ref bash ever, I suppose.

by Dontheman2 Sun 19 Mar 2017, 8:29 am

Ffs. Can we get off Barnes! ? Madge has asked a good question i.e. Are Wales any good stuck in the past etc. I thought Biggar who I've always liked was poor. Couple of hoists went nowhere and he seemed to lose confidence. Wtf was Davies. Howley for Lions attack coach v NZ? You're having a laugh

by exile jack Sun 19 Mar 2017, 8:52 am

Le rugby galois est mort.Fin.

by carpet baboon Sun 19 Mar 2017, 8:54 am

From an outsider's point of view your pack can mix it with everyone but your backs are a very mixed bag.
Dan seems to having confidence issues, but your biggest problem seems to be jd2. He kills momentum with his shocking bad hands. Yesterday fikou in the first ten seemed to target jd2s inside shoulder and walk between him and Williams at Will.
You need to try beck

by chris_501 Sun 19 Mar 2017, 8:57 am

RiscaGame wrote:Are you not dispirited? We have zero depth and have just finished fifth. Pretty much every team above us has probably developed more.

Maybe more realistic? If you offered any of the other 6N teams the success we have had in the last 12 years, they would all take it.

Yes the other teams have finished above us as we have lost a bit of consistency within our performances, but it's cyclical. We don't have any divine right to be the top European nation.

That's not that as a squad they should accept 5th and not absolutely aspire to being the best in the world, they should, but its professional sport, every team is doing their utmost to be top.

by majesticimperialman Sun 19 Mar 2017, 10:06 am

What does yesterday''s loss to France do to Wales world cup draw?

by majesticimperialman Sun 19 Mar 2017, 10:14 am

RiscaGame wrote:
majesticimperialman wrote:I don't like blaming the ref for a team losing. But i do think that Barnes had it for France.

Wales through JD deliberately knock on and it is a penalty only.

France do the same type of knock on 5 minutes later and it is a yellow card.

Clearly in Wales favour.

Although Wales did not look like scoring any tries at all.

It still does not alter the fact 2 same offences 2 different out comes.

Not that any of your contributions on this thread make any sense, but what are you on about with regards to blaming a ref for a team losing and France? Have a whiff mun.

RiscaGames

If i was the French coach i would be wanting answers of why when JD2 knocked on it was just a penalty. And when France did the same knock on it was reviewed and a yellow card followed.

Plus How many times did Barnes allow Wales to drop the scrum in the dying minutes of the game with out giving a penalty try?

by No 7&1/2 Sun 19 Mar 2017, 10:16 am

You're not going to get a penalty try unless you're going backwards at a rate of knots.

by eirebilly Sun 19 Mar 2017, 10:21 am

My take on the Yellow card for deliberate knock on. I think the difference in rulings was actually Dan Biggar. When the Wales knocked on, the French just seemed to accept it but when France knocked on, Biggar went screaming into Barnes' ear like a soccer player.

I do believe that Barnes' was influenced by this. Not very good from Barnes but you could also say it was very clever by Biggar. Personally I do not like it but sadly it is the way the game is going.

During the Ireland - England game, I saw an Irish player wave his hand for a YC like a soccer player, really did not like that either.

by RuggerRadge2611 Sun 19 Mar 2017, 10:41 am

eirebilly wrote:My take on the Yellow card for deliberate knock on. I think the difference in rulings was actually Dan Biggar. When the Wales knocked on, the French just seemed to accept it but when France knocked on, Biggar went screaming into Barnes' ear like a soccer player.

I do believe that Barnes' was influenced by this. Not very good from Barnes but you could also say it was very clever by Biggar. Personally I do not like it but sadly it is the way the game is going.

During the Ireland - England game, I saw an Irish player wave his hand for a YC like a soccer player, really did not like that either.

For all of Biggar's strengths, he is a blabbermouth and it is a nasty trait he has, his gesticulating and "oh my God" antics were ridiculous. It's not the first time. The Scotland Wales game 2 years ago he practically took to his knees appealing for a yellow card to Finn Russell. It was a clear yellow but his ranting at the ref wasn't very sportsman like.

by eirebilly Sun 19 Mar 2017, 10:47 am

I really rate Biggar but I also despise those antics Radge. Soccerisms are coming into our game at an alarming rate and it really should be stamped out before it becomes the norm.

by poissonrouge Sun 19 Mar 2017, 11:14 am

What does yesterday''s loss to France do to Wales world cup draw?

Zero effect. Wales win would have put them in 5th in the rankings - loss means they are 8th - still same pot for the draw. (However if Ireland had lost, then a Wales win would have put them in 4th)

by whocares Sun 19 Mar 2017, 12:32 pm

Apparently Dulin is the one who allegedly bitten North arm.

by demosthenes Sun 19 Mar 2017, 12:49 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
eirebilly wrote:My take on the Yellow card for deliberate knock on. I think the difference in rulings was actually Dan Biggar. When the Wales knocked on, the French just seemed to accept it but when France knocked on, Biggar went screaming into Barnes' ear like a soccer player.

I do believe that Barnes' was influenced by this. Not very good from Barnes but you could also say it was very clever by Biggar. Personally I do not like it but sadly it is the way the game is going.

During the Ireland - England game, I saw an Irish player wave his hand for a YC like a soccer player, really did not like that either.

For all of Biggar's strengths, he is a blabbermouth and it is a nasty trait he has, his gesticulating and "oh my God" antics were ridiculous. It's not the first time. The Scotland Wales game 2 years ago he practically took to his knees appealing for a yellow card to Finn Russell. It was a clear yellow but his ranting at the ref wasn't very sportsman like.

Agreed. His TOTP antics are those of a petulant child deprived of his favourite toy. Can't really think of anyone else who is quite so bad for this sort of behavior.

by mikey_dragon Sun 19 Mar 2017, 1:03 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
eirebilly wrote:My take on the Yellow card for deliberate knock on. I think the difference in rulings was actually Dan Biggar. When the Wales knocked on, the French just seemed to accept it but when France knocked on, Biggar went screaming into Barnes' ear like a soccer player.

I do believe that Barnes' was influenced by this. Not very good from Barnes but you could also say it was very clever by Biggar. Personally I do not like it but sadly it is the way the game is going.

During the Ireland - England game, I saw an Irish player wave his hand for a YC like a soccer player, really did not like that either.

For all of Biggar's strengths, he is a blabbermouth and it is a nasty trait he has, his gesticulating and "oh my God" antics were ridiculous. It's not the first time. The Scotland Wales game 2 years ago he practically took to his knees appealing for a yellow card to Finn Russell. It was a clear yellow but his ranting at the ref wasn't very sportsman like.

Incorrect as Russell's foul was a clear red - hence the follow up citing and ban.

by mikey_dragon Sun 19 Mar 2017, 1:04 pm

The last 20 minutes of this match was painful to watch, wtf was that all about? All matches involving France are anti-rugby. Also can somebody clarify why Lee was binned?

by RuggerRadge2611 Sun 19 Mar 2017, 1:24 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
eirebilly wrote:My take on the Yellow card for deliberate knock on. I think the difference in rulings was actually Dan Biggar. When the Wales knocked on, the French just seemed to accept it but when France knocked on, Biggar went screaming into Barnes' ear like a soccer player.

I do believe that Barnes' was influenced by this. Not very good from Barnes but you could also say it was very clever by Biggar. Personally I do not like it but sadly it is the way the game is going.

During the Ireland - England game, I saw an Irish player wave his hand for a YC like a soccer player, really did not like that either.

For all of Biggar's strengths, he is a blabbermouth and it is a nasty trait he has, his gesticulating and "oh my God" antics were ridiculous. It's not the first time. The Scotland Wales game 2 years ago he practically took to his knees appealing for a yellow card to Finn Russell. It was a clear yellow but his ranting at the ref wasn't very sportsman like.

Incorrect as Russell's foul was a clear red - hence the follow up citing and ban.

So he was Begging to have his opposite number sent off. That's even worse. He's a crying faced drama queen. End of story. He needs to cut that nonsense out. He's a better player than that.

by GunsGermsV2 Sun 19 Mar 2017, 1:33 pm

ebop wrote:Didn't watch the game but read about it

Barnes is a special kind of special

A special ref

'That ref'

A large percentage of posters think he is world class. Bahahaha

by mikey_dragon Sun 19 Mar 2017, 1:37 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
eirebilly wrote:My take on the Yellow card for deliberate knock on. I think the difference in rulings was actually Dan Biggar. When the Wales knocked on, the French just seemed to accept it but when France knocked on, Biggar went screaming into Barnes' ear like a soccer player.

I do believe that Barnes' was influenced by this. Not very good from Barnes but you could also say it was very clever by Biggar. Personally I do not like it but sadly it is the way the game is going.

During the Ireland - England game, I saw an Irish player wave his hand for a YC like a soccer player, really did not like that either.

For all of Biggar's strengths, he is a blabbermouth and it is a nasty trait he has, his gesticulating and "oh my God" antics were ridiculous. It's not the first time. The Scotland Wales game 2 years ago he practically took to his knees appealing for a yellow card to Finn Russell. It was a clear yellow but his ranting at the ref wasn't very sportsman like.

Incorrect as Russell's foul was a clear red - hence the follow up citing and ban.

So he was Begging to have his opposite number sent off. That's even worse. He's a crying faced drama queen. End of story. He needs to cut that nonsense out. He's a better player than that.

I'd be pretty angry too if that happened to me whilst trying to play rugby within the laws. I don't recall him begging but he did have his usual fit. What's worse is some folk still crying over Biggar when Russell got away with it. I don't think Biggar will change btw, but yeah he does need to tone it down.

by Guest Sun 19 Mar 2017, 5:49 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
True Raven wrote:Really?? Of all refs you think he's bad? You should look at all the sh!te refs the Irish serve up in the pro12

None have come close to that poor performance by Barnes, this evening, Raven. I haven't seen such a poor display from any ref, in a long time. He is often inconsistent, but not as bad as was in that game. Probably his worse.

When you say "That game" you do mean "That game"?

Yes, I mean that game

The game that put Barnes on the International Rugby stage. in all the years since Barnes has never been that inconsistant. In fact I think hes improved a thousand per cent.

Ah, you're talking about the Kiwi game. I wasn't, and yes he has been that inconsistent since (such as today's game and Ireland v Wales a few seasons ago). Just not in a World Cup game.

Yes, we refer to it as "that game" (If we refer to it directly or we get labelled as whingers), where he only refereed one side for an hour. I was going to reply to GunsGerms that he hadnt repeated the same thing since, but perhaps GG has a point when weve just seen a game, where one half took an hour alone and Wales didnt get a lot of favourable calls in that time.

Wales obviously did get favourable calls. France had a player sent off for committing the exact same offence as a Welsh player who should have been carded, and a penalty try awarded to France.

In the last 20, Barnes should have carded another Welsh player, as well as awarded a penalty try. Instead, Barnes refused to award the penalty try, and just reset the scrum, again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again. It's a minor miracle that France didn't cough up a penalty in that time, they did nearly lose it at least on two occasions, and the irony is that Howley and AWJ feel hard done by, and claim it is they who should have won.

Barnes refereeing of that game (France v Wales Smile

) was absurd, and he should be dropped from the 6N's.

by SecretFly Sun 19 Mar 2017, 5:53 pm

and again....

by Guest Sun 19 Mar 2017, 5:58 pm

Oh, I missed one? Erm

by Guest Sun 19 Mar 2017, 6:16 pm

Just wanted to reiterate my congratulations to France. I was banned yesterday for 24 hours for calling out the WUMs and my post was deleted, and with it my message congratulating the French on their win and for playing the much better rugby. clap

On Barnes. Not sure how/why he didn't give a penalty try earlier and put us all out of our misery. It's funny though; I see people here saying that Barnes was hell bent on giving everything to Wales. And I agree that the yellow card inconsistency for the knock on was ridiculous. Either yellow card both or neither, but not one on his own. However, I can't agree that he gave Wales everything. There was a whole 20mins of match time at the end (30 mins in real time) where he gave France absolutely everything. Every single decision. He just looked to me like he would just keep penalising us until France scored a try. I think he perhaps realised he'd made a mistake of some sort and decided to just keep going until France got their try to win it. On at least one occasion towards the very end for me the French front row popped up first but Wales got penalised. But like I said, I think he could have awarded a penalty try earlier and got the game wrapped up with just a few mins added time. Saying that, I thought his reffing of the scrums in normal time was very inconsistent and confusing. The scrum aficionado Brian Moore seemed to agree too.

On prop-gate: it's a bit naughty if true, but I think other sides would do the same. However, without wanting to sound like some sort of victim I do think if Wales had done it and got away with it world war 3 would have kicked off on here. The French do it and everyone shrugs and barely bats an eyelid. Such is the 606 way.

by mikey_dragon Sun 19 Mar 2017, 6:19 pm

Griff - they banned you yet allow posters like Madge to keep posting? Unbelievable.

by whocares Sun 19 Mar 2017, 6:33 pm

To be fair to team Wales they could have gone for uncontested scrums as well so credit to them for fronting up. The whole end was a farce and France team should not take any glory in it...

by GunsGermsV2 Sun 19 Mar 2017, 6:38 pm

whocares wrote:To be fair to team Wales they could have gone for uncontested scrums as well so credit to them for fronting up. The whole end was a farce and France team should not take any glory in it...

Well lets not forget they collapsed every scrum instead which isnt much better.

by No 7&1/2 Sun 19 Mar 2017, 6:38 pm

Anyone know what punishment could be dished out to France if they're found guilty of cheating with the Antonio sub? I'm assuming the result will stand?

by SecretFly Sun 19 Mar 2017, 6:44 pm

Let's say it was a farce but let's also say that, once again, the Six Nations provides a new level of drawma for the aficionados. Memorable game: "Where were you when France went for the world record of penalties given without being awarded a penalty try?"

by RuggerRadge2611 Sun 19 Mar 2017, 6:48 pm

SecretFly wrote:Let's say it was a farce but let's also say that, once again, the Six Nations provides a new level of drawma for the aficionados. Memorable game: "Where were you when France went for the world record of penalties given without being awarded a penalty try?"

I think some of our Welsh brethern are taking this more than a little harshly. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that the HIA was legitimate. The biting on the other hand is revolting and France should be punished accordingly.

by Guest Sun 19 Mar 2017, 6:53 pm

No evidence to suggest the HIA was legitimate?! Yeah, exactly! That's the whole point! Did you mean wasn't legitimate?

by whocares Sun 19 Mar 2017, 6:57 pm

Am sure he meant that. In a way you will have to prove that the French doctor lied to Barnes on purpose. Maybe send him to Guantanamo and use the polygraph if that's allowed by world rugby?

by RuggerRadge2611 Sun 19 Mar 2017, 6:59 pm

Griff wrote:No evidence to suggest the HIA was legitimate?! Yeah, exactly! That's the whole point! Did you mean wasn't legitimate?

Hey you knew what I meant. I'm currently getting subjected to upsy daisy dancing with the hahoos by my 19 month old watching in the night garden, you can forgive some messaging errors!!! Hug

by GunsGermsV2 Sun 19 Mar 2017, 7:01 pm

Its pretty obvious that the France doctor lied however, I cant say I feel sorry for Wales at all. Barnes has a terrible habit of favouring Wales in almost all of the many games he refs for them and I think with all the intentional scrum collapses Wales got what they deserved IMO.

by Guest Sun 19 Mar 2017, 7:02 pm

whocares wrote:Am sure he meant that. In a way you will have to prove that the French doctor lied to Barnes on purpose. Maybe send him to Guantanamo and use the polygraph if that's allowed by world rugby?

Surely, for something this serious, the good Doctor should be waterboarded? Barnes should be waterboarded as well. Makes sense angel

by Guest Sun 19 Mar 2017, 7:24 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
Griff wrote:No evidence to suggest the HIA was legitimate?! Yeah, exactly! That's the whole point! Did you mean wasn't legitimate?

Hey you knew what I meant. I'm currently getting subjected to upsy daisy dancing with the hahoos by my 19 month old watching in the night garden, you can forgive some messaging errors!!!

Good man! Watch out for those tombliboos. I've had a day of Thomas and Friends. On repeat. The singing version too!

by majesticimperialman Sun 19 Mar 2017, 9:13 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Griff - they banned you yet allow posters like Madge to keep posting? Unbelievable.

What is wrong with my post?

by mikey_dragon Sun 19 Mar 2017, 9:21 pm

GunsGermsV2 wrote:Its pretty obvious that the France doctor lied however, I cant say I feel sorry for Wales at all. Barnes has a terrible habit of favouring Wales in almost all of the many games he refs for them and I think with all the intentional scrum collapses Wales got what they deserved IMO.

Wayne Barnes 22 - 9 Ireland Wink

by SecretFly Sun 19 Mar 2017, 9:24 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
GunsGermsV2 wrote:Its pretty obvious that the France doctor lied however, I cant say I feel sorry for Wales at all. Barnes has a terrible habit of favouring Wales in almost all of the many games he refs for them and I think with all the intentional scrum collapses Wales got what they deserved IMO.

Wayne Barnes 22 - 9 Ireland

And it only took 80 minutes too. clap

His best game this year so far. Wink

by mikey_dragon Sun 19 Mar 2017, 9:27 pm

SecretFly wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
GunsGermsV2 wrote:Its pretty obvious that the France doctor lied however, I cant say I feel sorry for Wales at all. Barnes has a terrible habit of favouring Wales in almost all of the many games he refs for them and I think with all the intentional scrum collapses Wales got what they deserved IMO.

Wayne Barnes 22 - 9 Ireland

And it only took 80 minutes too. His best game this year so far.

Correct. So does that win also count as Gatland getting another one over on Ireland? I think it's fair to say he's winning after having got a few over on the Irish in recent years laughing

. Don't mess with Gats.

by SecretFly Sun 19 Mar 2017, 9:36 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
GunsGermsV2 wrote:Its pretty obvious that the France doctor lied however, I cant say I feel sorry for Wales at all. Barnes has a terrible habit of favouring Wales in almost all of the many games he refs for them and I think with all the intentional scrum collapses Wales got what they deserved IMO.

Wayne Barnes 22 - 9 Ireland

And it only took 80 minutes too. His best game this year so far.

Correct. So does that win also count as Gatland getting another one over on Ireland? I think it's fair to say he's winning after having got a few over on the Irish in recent years . Don't mess with Gats.

Oh sure he couldn't keep the happiness in, could he? "Please don't leave the camera on me.... please don't hee, hee......, I'm going to lose it. hee hee hee. I'm going to lose my air of neutrality.... Ha!! Ha!!! Ha!!!! F**K you Ireland. That's for sacking me!....Again!"

Don't that guy ever forgive? Ain't he a Christian? Cool

by JDizzle Sun 19 Mar 2017, 10:11 pm

I hope the last twenty minutes of the game don't gloss over the fact that Wales were really poor, yet again.

The fact is, for the style Wales play, the Ireland game was about as well as they can play. And we have seen for years that this can't be consistently successful against the top teams. 8 tries in 5 games just isn't good enough - and that is with 3 each against Italy!

How many times have we heard the players/management say we are better than that performance in the last 12 months? At some point you have to accept that these poor performances have become the norm and shake things up.

As for Barnes, I thought he was fine in the last 20 minutes. He could have awarded a penalty try, but his argument was France we never certain to score on any of the pens. He got the knock on/yellow card incident wrong though. And he should have been stopping the clock post 80 minutes, as Samson got back on after about 3 minutes of actual game play - but can't blame him too much for this, as this was a totally unique situation.

by **Rugby Fan** Mon 20 Mar 2017, 12:05 am

Former ref gives his view on that wild end to the France vs Wales game. Barnes comes out of it quite well:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/wayne-barnes-big-decisions-right-12763778

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