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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 05 Jun 2017, 8:03 am

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Post by compelling and rich Fri 09 Jun 2017, 2:10 am

labour gaining from cons, ukip and snp look dead

i dont think i can handle another referendum on brexit

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Post by temporary21 Fri 09 Jun 2017, 2:18 am

Recount for Tim farron...

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Post by temporary21 Fri 09 Jun 2017, 2:19 am

ANGUS IS COOKED!

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Post by temporary21 Fri 09 Jun 2017, 2:24 am

So the story of the night is that the ukip vote has been split between labour and Tory

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Post by compelling and rich Fri 09 Jun 2017, 2:29 am

temporary21 wrote:So the story of the night is that the ukip vote has been split between labour and Tory

and will the conservatives squeak a majority through scotland!

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Post by temporary21 Fri 09 Jun 2017, 2:36 am

The Scottish could save the Tories 

THE SCOTTISH 

the Tories are the one thing they hate more than England 

Amazing

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Post by Muscular-mouse Fri 09 Jun 2017, 3:12 am

They will regret that when the tories cut everything in Scotland.

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Post by temporary21 Fri 09 Jun 2017, 3:14 am

I think they already do

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 09 Jun 2017, 6:28 am

Phuck a Duck,

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 09 Jun 2017, 7:05 am

Ding, dong, the witch is dead
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Post by GSC Fri 09 Jun 2017, 7:08 am

Great, we do get another ****ing GE
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Post by Samo Fri 09 Jun 2017, 7:46 am

Theres still the Con-DUP coalition prospect - whcih is worse than a conservative majority.

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Post by Guest Fri 09 Jun 2017, 7:48 am

Con & DUP arrangement, gets over the line. May ain't resigning, no need for another GE

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Post by Samo Fri 09 Jun 2017, 7:51 am

temporary21 wrote:The Scottish could save the Tories 

THE SCOTTISH 

the Tories are the one thing they hate more than England 

Amazing

Thats how badly people want to avoid another Independence Referendum. 'Cant vote Labour because they campaigned with the Tories so I suppose I'll vote Tory to save the Union' - Loyalist logic.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri 09 Jun 2017, 7:59 am

That could not have gone much worse for anyone.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri 09 Jun 2017, 8:01 am

Well done Scotland...

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri 09 Jun 2017, 8:02 am

Fascinating stuff.

Wonder whether another election so soon will convince others to go more tactical

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri 09 Jun 2017, 8:02 am

Thank god for the DUP.

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 09 Jun 2017, 8:13 am

You might want to be careful hammer - Irish unionists will demand things not within the purview of the UK to provide - like free movement. Might end up with no brexit at all.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri 09 Jun 2017, 8:18 am

Shah, I am an Irish unionist.

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 09 Jun 2017, 8:21 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Shah, I am an Irish unionist.

F*ck you and die you fascist pig

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Post by GSC Fri 09 Jun 2017, 8:38 am

Just John wrote:Con & DUP arrangement, gets over the line. May ain't resigning, no need for another GE

Not even close to a workable majority. But enough to block Corbyns Queens Speech attempt regardless of the SNP and Lib Dems.

May will go today, Corbyn will attempt to form a minority government, get blocked and we'll be back at the polls.
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Post by lfc91 Fri 09 Jun 2017, 8:42 am

Think latest projections have Conservatives 318 finish? With the DUP 10 would take them to 328. Take away the Sinn Fein seats and they would expect to have a majority of 6 for voting purposes. Not good by any means, but a majority none the less.

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Post by GSC Fri 09 Jun 2017, 8:42 am

Even disregarding that, the SNP and Lib Dems won't come to the table unless single market membership is sat on it.
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Post by temporary21 Fri 09 Jun 2017, 8:47 am

That's not s majority

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Post by GSC Fri 09 Jun 2017, 8:49 am

It is just. SF don't take their seats either so you subtract them from the total
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Post by lfc91 Fri 09 Jun 2017, 8:50 am

Would 328 combined not be a majority regardless of SF? The point I was making is that SF not taking there seats gives ever so slightly more breathing room.

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Post by GSC Fri 09 Jun 2017, 8:52 am

Corbyn: "Theresa May lost and should resign."
Interviewer: "But you didn't win either. Maybe you should resign?"
Corbyn: [silence, blinking]


I got a good chuckle out of that.

Oh well, back to normality.
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Post by Samo Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:02 am

GSC wrote:Corbyn: "Theresa May lost and should resign."
Interviewer: "But you didn't win either. Maybe you should resign?"
Corbyn: [silence, blinking]


I got a good chuckle out of that.

Oh well, back to normality.

He didnt win a majority but considering where he was 6 months ago and how well he's done its still a victory of sorts.

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Post by navyblueshorts Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:05 am

GSC wrote:Oh God, we're going to have another ****ing election by years end aren't we
Probably, but I don't think they should be allowed to call another one. Grow the **** up and establish some consensus politics for once.
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Post by navyblueshorts Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:05 am

Galted wrote:I'm fairly certain we'll see a late surge for the Greens once my vote's been counted.
Laugh
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Post by GSC Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:06 am

Samo wrote:
GSC wrote:Corbyn: "Theresa May lost and should resign."
Interviewer: "But you didn't win either. Maybe you should resign?"
Corbyn: [silence, blinking]


I got a good chuckle out of that.

Oh well, back to normality.

He didnt win a majority but considering where he was 6 months ago and how well he's done its still a victory of sorts.

Absolutely. But just as the SNP had a disastrous night, they too remain the biggest party in Scotland. A victory with some large caveats
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Post by Samo Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:08 am

GSC wrote:
Samo wrote:
GSC wrote:Corbyn: "Theresa May lost and should resign."
Interviewer: "But you didn't win either. Maybe you should resign?"
Corbyn: [silence, blinking]


I got a good chuckle out of that.

Oh well, back to normality.

He didnt win a majority but considering where he was 6 months ago and how well he's done its still a victory of sorts.

Absolutely. But just as the SNP had a disastrous night, they too remain the biggest party in Scotland. A victory with some large caveats

True, but they had a truly incredible result last time. Anyone who thought they would keep all 56 seats were deluding themselves.

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Post by GSC Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:13 am

Yeah but there's a difference between a dent and losing 20/56. That's indyref dead and buried.

But they still have considerable weight to lean on single market membership.

Angus losing is ****ing hilarious though
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Post by navyblueshorts Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:13 am

Ent wrote:Honestly a narrow Conservative majority would be better than a hung parliament.

Don't think anyone was expecting this, beware the exit poll though.

Come what may, at least we can all laugh at the SNP and Craig.
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Post by GSC Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:14 am

Even the DUP telling May to go.

Get the removal vans prepped...
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Post by Scottrf Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:14 am

Yeah people losing their jobs is great comedy.

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Post by Crimey Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:21 am

Samo wrote:
temporary21 wrote:The Scottish could save the Tories 

THE SCOTTISH 

the Tories are the one thing they hate more than England 

Amazing

Thats how badly people want to avoid another Independence Referendum.  'Cant vote Labour because they campaigned with the Tories so I suppose I'll vote Tory to save the Union' - Loyalist logic.

It's a tough decision for people in Scotland though. When the debate comes down to Independence Referendum, they could either vote for SNP if they wanted one or Conservatives if they didn't. The vote was going to be split on the Unionist side otherwise. They could risk voting Labour, having SNP get in and then IndyRef2 and hope they vote 'No' but can understand why that risk wasn't taken.

This has been a massive disaster for Theresa May, she's a laughing stock.

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Post by JuliusHMarx Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:29 am

Morning. Did I miss anything?

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Post by Galted Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:35 am

JuliusHMarx wrote:Morning. Did I miss anything?

You did, yesterday was Bonnie Tyler's birthday.

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Post by Samo Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:37 am

Galted wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:Morning. Did I miss anything?

You did, yesterday was Bonnie Tyler's birthday.

Its also a year to the day Rik Mayell died. Crying or Very sad

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Post by Ent Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:38 am

Great the DUP propping up the government.

Highlights of the DUP recently;

anti gay blood donation
anti gay marriage
anti free campaigning
telling a lesbian couple they disagreed with their lifestyle choice
paying their mates to install boilers costing the tax payer £400 million of overspend
raiding the coffers to pay for flute bands to get new instruments
setting up a building regeneration project that practically excluded those in catholic areas
Nama scandal
wife of the leader having an affair with a teenager whilst funnelling him public money to start a business
being unable to form a government of their own with Sinn Fein
Have MLAs who are evangelists and believe the world is 5000 years old.

Good luck with them


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Post by Ent Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:40 am

Where does this leave the country?

Pretty much screwed.

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Post by lfc91 Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:41 am

Think it was £400 million....

However bang on with the rest really.

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Post by JuliusHMarx Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:42 am

Galted wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:Morning. Did I miss anything?

You did, yesterday was Bonnie Tyler's birthday.

I was going to visit her to say Happy Birthday but I got lost in France.

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Post by Ent Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:43 am

lfc91 wrote:Think it was £400 million....

However bang on with the rest really.

Apologies,

I originally wrote £400.

Will correct that.

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Post by lfc91 Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:47 am

Have a particular issue with the religious aspect of the DUP, particularly on their stance to gay marriage (and homosexuality in general, as I have 2 female cousins who's lifestyle choice they would disagree with).

However in NI there aren't many great options for us across the board if you take the two main parties as an example..

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Post by Ent Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:50 am

UUP put up candidates in most areas.

Been a long process to get to this point but a generation of fear politics RE Irish unity has put us in the position of having a corrupt, hands in the till, pay your mates party as the largest in NI.

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Post by Ent Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:51 am

DUP also hard line EU sceptics.

Theres a difficult set of talks anyway.

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Post by lfc91 Fri 09 Jun 2017, 9:51 am

Ent wrote:UUP put up candidates in most areas.

Been a long process to get to this point but a generation of fear politics RE Irish unity has put us in the position of having a corrupt, hands in the till, pay your mates party as the largest in NI.

Exactly. Many Unionists vote DUP simply to stop Sinn Fein achieving a majority and pushing for a unity Ireland.

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