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Post by Driver Wed 08 Jun 2011, 3:16 pm

First topic message reminder :

Welcome to the 4th season of the fantasy aviva premiership game


Opening Weekend fixtures; Leicester Tigers vs Exeter Chiefs ; London Irish vs Harlequins ; Newcastle Falcons vs Bath ; Northampton vs Gloucester ; Saracens vs London Wasps ; Worcester Warriors vs Sale Sharks

This Weeks match thread(s) :- https://www.606v2.com/t8662-fixtures-3#245781

Season One Homepage (Archived)

Season Two Homepage Part One(Archived)

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1. Sam
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Bath RFC
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Exeter Chiefs
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Gloucester
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Harlequins
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Leicester Tigers
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London Irish
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London Wasps
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Newcastle Falcons
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Northampton Saints
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Sale Sharks
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Saracens
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Post by Driver Fri 15 Jul 2011, 1:54 pm

I thought Anthony Faainga looked quality at 13 towards the back end of this year would work well outside a playmaking 12 i.e Contepomi.

Anyone getting up early Sunday for the OZ game? or just sky+ it lol

Giteau needs to have a big game
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 1:54 pm

sky plus for me

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Post by Driver Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:02 pm

Also guys can i have some feedback on these options for next year

Front Row

Starting with a stable prop (Efion Lewis-Roberts) then bringing on a impact prop (Cian Healy) after about 50 minutes or Starting with Cian Healy and bringing Efion Lewis Roberts on after 65 minutes to steady the game and see it out.

John Smit's best position - Hooker or tighthead

Back Row

Brown/Fearns/Jennings
Brown/Fearns/Wallace
Fearns/Delve/Jennings
Fearns/Delve/Wallace
Danahar/Brown/Holah

Any other ideas?

Centres - Best combo

Max Evans - best position
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:03 pm

Super XV team of the season according to planet rugby

1. Crockett
2. BDP
3. Afoa (Yesssss)
4. Sharpe
5. Matfield
6. Higginbottom
7. Johnson
8. Read
9. Genia
10. Carter
11. Digby
12. SBW
13. Freaun
14. Kade Poki
15. Beale

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3824_7031031,00.html

Cooper, Maitland, Robinson, Turner and A. faainga are unlucky not to be in there for me

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Post by Driver Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:04 pm

Would of picked Maitland :/
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:04 pm

I was looking at Mike Harris myself mate but things came through the domestics for me. Think hes a handy little player especially for the international periods on this game

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:08 pm

S15 team of the year according to 'Rugga World'

15. Kurtley Beale (Waratahs)
14. JP Pietersen (Sharks)
13. Jaque Fourie (Stormers)
12. Sonny Bill Williams (Crusaders)
11. Digby Ioane (Reds)
10. Quade Cooper (Reds)
9. Will Genia (Reds)
8. Kieran Read (Crusaders)
7. Matt Todd (Crusaders)
6. Schalk Burger (Stormers)
5. Andries Bekker (Stormers)
4. Nathan Sharpe (Force)
3. Owen Franks (Crusaders)
2. Tatafu Polota-Nau (Waratahs)
1. Wyatt Crockett (Crusaders)

Reserves
16. Keven Mealamu (Blues)
17. Ben Franks (Crusaders)
18. Sitaleki Timani (Waratahs)
19. Adam Thomson (Highlanders)
20. Andy Ellis (Crusaders)
21. James O’Connor (Force)
22. Zac Guildford (Crusaders)

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Post by Driver Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:09 pm

Can't see what Matfield has done to merit a place?
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:11 pm

From my own camp Bekker and Todd unlucky not to make the planet rugby list. Adam Thomson at 6 would be a good shout as well but Higginbottom was that little bit better over the course of the season.
Would have Fourie above Freuen but only just. maitland should be on the wing. Would take Cooper over Carter over the course of the season. Carter still the better player overall for me though.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:12 pm

I struggle to see why Matfield is there as well.

My personal side would have been

1. Wyatt Crockett
2. BDP
3. Owen Franks/John Afoa/WP Nel
4. Sharpe
5. Horwill
6. Higginbottom
7. Robinson
8. Read
9. Genia
10. Cooper
11. Maitland
12. SBW
13. Faainga
14. Turner
15. Beale

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:12 pm

I don't think Bekker has been great this season.

Todd deserved more game time in the play offs as McCaw never got going

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:18 pm

Bekker has been a standout for the Stormers again this year for me Steve. the only other lock to have the same kind of influence as him is Horwill but Bekker shades it for me. Probably been the best lock at super level over the last 2/3 years now

Was very impressed by Todd coming on in the final though. Got the better of Gill anyway Very Happy

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:34 pm

I don't think Bekker was in Sharpe, Thorn, Horwill's etc league but he was the best Saffer lock by a long chalk

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:43 pm

Sharpe I agree on was great this year. But Thorn had his work load shared over the season. Both are enforcer locks though. Bekker was for me most definately the best lineout lock (for want of a better term) over the course of the entire seaon. Horwill was good though as well. Great in the final. its all subjective really but can't see how Matfield got into the Planet Rugby side over the other two lads didnt think he was great at all this year. Been outshone by Bekker at this level 2 years straight now. Shouldnt be guranteed his shirt for the world cup but will be

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Post by stnick88 Fri 15 Jul 2011, 3:20 pm

Horwill best lock for me. tough call between fainga'a, fourie and freuan at 13. cooper/genia definitly best half backs. thomson started season well but tailed off then got injured. afoa and nel tough call for 3. crockett best loosehead by a long way for me.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 3:40 pm

There have been no outstanding Hookers, BDP was not exceptional by his standards but his average was good enough to be the best hooker.

I like Saai Faainga but his setpiece really lets him down. Hanson is the better all round player.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 15 Jul 2011, 3:44 pm

Thought TPN was exceptional starting off but faded away. Really between him and BDP. Fourie and Strauss were decent throughout the tournament as well although Fourie is lacking in his basics at times

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Post by stnick88 Fri 15 Jul 2011, 4:01 pm

Mealamu had a good season, great work in the loose just the odd wayward lineout throw.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Jul 2011, 4:15 pm

Think I prefer your side Steve, seen a few banded about. Would have Bekker above Horwill and Fourie ahead of Fa'ianga. Franks was best TH by some distance and I'd stick Guildford ahead of Turner.

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Post by 'Arry Fri 15 Jul 2011, 4:18 pm

Looking for a openside flanker, number eight and fly half.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 4:19 pm

The main features in all sides I've seen are Crockett, Read, Higginbottom,Sharpe, Genia, SBW and Beale. Not much argument about those i wouldnt have thought

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Post by stnick88 Fri 15 Jul 2011, 4:23 pm

wouldnt say by some distance pooly, afoa and nel had good seasons, agreed franks is the better player, but afoa played above himself and put in some great performances.

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Jul 2011, 5:11 pm

Burger has been in every super 15 side of the season i have seen and for me was in the top 3 players of super 15 with Genia and Beale. he had a massive season

Think Kieran Reed, Higginbottom and Burger would be my backrow

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Jul 2011, 5:31 pm

Yea Ofoa had a good season but doesn't dominate in the scrum as Franks does, good player though

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 5:39 pm

Looking forward to seeing Franks take on the northern hemisphere scrums in the World Cup.

Jenkins, Domingo, Sheridan etc will give him a proper test and it will be harder for him as Woodcock/Crockett whoever is a at loosehead won't get things all there own way against Jones, Cole, Mas etc

looking forward to it.

Still fancying Oz or France for the World cup

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Jul 2011, 5:42 pm

Rugby 365 awards:

Player if S15 - Cooper
Best back - Kurtley Beale
Forward - Kieran Read
Best try - Genia in final
Biggest flop - Cipriani

Matt, Burger didn't make Planet rugby team of season. Backrow was Read, Higginbottom, AJ

Agree with that Steve, a step up in scrummaging if not loose play up north. Don't think Sheridan is anything great in the scrum.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 5:47 pm

Never seen Sheridan go backwards. still the best Loosehead England have although Marler and Corbs in particular will soon overtake him.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Jul 2011, 5:50 pm

He's a steady eddy I think Steve, not seen him dominate for a few years. A half fit Murray gave him all sorts of issues at Falcons

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 15 Jul 2011, 6:00 pm

Sheridan is solid but nothing spectacular these days. Think this will be his last year in england. Signed a 1 year extension for this year. Think Sale may move him on though with Imolek coming on. Did very well last year for such a young lad. Not as good as Marler ball in hand though no slouch himself but much stronger in the scrum.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 6:15 pm

I played with and against Imiolek loads of times. he kept me out the Cheshire under 15's side when he was an 8. Unbelievable eye for the try line. Very confident player.


Sheridan would have left this year if Diamond hadn't have come back to Sale. If we do well he might stay.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 15 Jul 2011, 6:21 pm

I dunno mate think the main reason he stayed on for this season was to keep himself out of trouble before the world cup with Johno and the RFU frowning on moves to France. Wouldnt have done himself many favours moving over before the world cup with Corbisero and Stevens breathing down is neck

If Imolek keeps going the way he has this year doubt you will need Sheridan anyway. Imolek and Thomas could well be looking at England honours down the line. Both fantastic prospects for Sale

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 6:32 pm

No it is well known over here that he would have left and joined Toulon after the WC. But he rejected the Toulon deal when Diamond was put in charge

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 15 Jul 2011, 6:39 pm

Well fair play to Diamond then! Done wonders so far with his signings though I question Buckley and Dickinson not the greatest scrummagers. What you reckon of the moldovan lad or whatever he is you signed from Russia?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Jul 2011, 6:43 pm

Lions v Pumas on SS4....currie cup game

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 15 Jul 2011, 7:15 pm

cheers pooly will catch that now!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 7:41 pm

I had to turn it off. Was upsetting me the standard of it although there were good players on show

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Jul 2011, 7:45 pm

The ITM is usually a better watch but I don't think the standard in the CC is any worse than the AP myself, just very forward orientated.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 15 Jul 2011, 7:50 pm

Both sides look dead on there feet at the moment to be honest. AP a step up for me to this

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Jul 2011, 7:56 pm

I think that's pretty much the Lions S15 side bar a couple (doesn't say much!)

Maybe I'm too used to watching Falcons, both of these are streets ahead!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 7:57 pm

AP is streets ahead of the CC.

I don't enjoy that competition at all. Much rather watch the kids play 7's on ESPN

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Jul 2011, 8:09 pm

Sharks team that won CC last year:

15 Louis Ludik
14 Ndungane
13 Stefan Terblanche
12 Andries Strauss
11 Mvovo
10 Patrick Lambie
9 Charl McLeod
1 Beast Mtawarira
2 Bismarck du Plessis
3 Jannie du Plessis
4 Steven Sykes
5 Alistair Hargreaves
6 Keegan Daniel
7 Willem Alberts
8 Ryan Kankowski

For a league much worse than the AP that's a pretty impressive side that would do some serious damage in the AP.   

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 15 Jul 2011, 8:15 pm

Think the likes of Sarries, Saints, Tigers are as good as that side Pooly. Think for overall quality AP is a better standard

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Jul 2011, 8:36 pm

How many of those players played for the whole tournament?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Jul 2011, 8:39 pm

It runs with the 3N so not all. Same as the AP and the 6N. I think it's a good watch anyway, AP is hit and miss usually but around the same standard IMO

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Jul 2011, 8:15 am

Aus team for tomorrow:

Australia (revised): 15 Mark Gerrard, 14 Rod Davies, 13 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 12 Pat McCabe, 11 Digby Ioane, 10 Matt Giteau, 9 Nick Phipps, 8 Ben McCalman, 7 Matt Hodgson, 6 Rocky Elsom(c), 5 Nathan Sharpe, 4 Sitaleki Timani, 3 Ben Alexander, 2 Stephen Moore, 1 Sekope Kepu

Replacements: 16 James Hanson, 17 Pek Cowan, 18 Dan Vickerman, 19 Scott Higginbotham, 20 Beau Robinson, 21 Will Genia, 22 Kurtley Beale.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 16 Jul 2011, 9:57 am

Interesting side. A few there playing for a World Cup place for sure.
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Post by dammit_chris Sat 16 Jul 2011, 10:32 am

Interested to see what Rod Davies can do, he's looked very good in s15 this year. Samoa have put out their best team, so could be a very interesting game, espc as Samoa have played games together over the last 3 weekends.

Japanese rugby must be improving as they won the Pacific Nations Cup - would love to go and watch a game out there.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Jul 2011, 10:47 am

Looks might Mitchell might make it back for the WC too

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 16 Jul 2011, 12:05 pm

Rod Davies gives Oz an option as a man with genuine pace. Something which JOC, AAC, Mitchell etc don't have. They are quick but the aren't rockets like Davies, Ashton, Habana et al

Would like to see him go to the WC

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 16 Jul 2011, 12:06 pm

I'm never sure how much Deans rates Mitchell. He was behind the continually injured Hynes last year and only got in the TN squad because Hynes was injured (surprise surprise)

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