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i will write tactics when the Miky/Olly thing is resolved cos if he's getting 3pts and others aren't then complaining shall commence due to clear bias happening. Either do all or none. Revert them to draws or something

I think making those games draws could be an idea

cab I get a draw for my playing a whole game with 10 men too

I think it should just be ignored tbh and carry on as we are. If you want to punish him, then how about he loses 1 vote for every 50 words over

Ie, if he wrote 250 words and won 3-0 on votes unanimously, he goes down to a 2-1 split win. 300 words and he loses 1-2

it's getting sillly what's done is done...but a precedent has been set going forward, not a fan of historical punishments

It's entirely up to Miky, and I'll back whatever he decides.

For my two pennies worth, I don't think you can punish as nothing has been set as the penalty for going over.

We (Miky) need to decide what a fair penalty would be (or penalties if we want to separate going a little over and massively over), add it to the rules and then apply it going forward, not retrospectively.

We also need to be more specific on what is included in the word count as Hero said.

My suggestion is going over by up to 20 words (i.e. 10%), you don't get the tactics bonus, going over by more than 20 is a default loss.

I certainly agree with the latter points you've said Afro, not as sure in regards to retrospective punishment for failure to have a rule for it, perhaps there should have clearer specifics as to what happens in the event but having clear rules for every eventuality is hard to do. Just because one isn't there doesn't mean that what went before is dismissed. What if we got someone with a duplicate account who then traded all their players to one team to make a really strong one (just happened in the rugby game which Bam can attest to and seem to recall it's happened here a few years ago), there's many things that shouldn't happen, we don't have rules for, but somehow come to the fore and we have to discuss them and work a way forward.

Hero wrote:I certainly agree with the latter points you've said Afro, not as sure in regards to retrospective punishment for failure to have a rule for it, perhaps there should have clearer specifics as to what happens in the event but having clear rules for every eventuality is hard to do. Just because one isn't there doesn't mean that what went before is dismissed. What if we got someone with a duplicate account who then traded all their players to one team to make a really strong one (just happened in the rugby game which Bam can attest to and seem to recall it's happened here a few years ago), there's many things that shouldn't happen, we don't have rules for, but somehow come to the fore and we have to discuss them and work a way forward.

I agree with what you say 100%. I was thinking more specifically in this instance about not applying it retrospectively as it feels like a smaller misdemeanour. I think you have already said you don't want your result against him reversed, and neither do I.

Controversy.

Anyone for a reboot?

Hero wrote:I certainly agree with the latter points you've said Afro, not as sure in regards to retrospective punishment for failure to have a rule for it, perhaps there should have clearer specifics as to what happens in the event but having clear rules for every eventuality is hard to do. Just because one isn't there doesn't mean that what went before is dismissed. What if we got someone with a duplicate account who then traded all their players to one team to make a really strong one (just happened in the rugby game which Bam can attest to and seem to recall it's happened here a few years ago), there's many things that shouldn't happen, we don't have rules for, but somehow come to the fore and we have to discuss them and work a way forward.

The multi-accounting is back!?!!

Still remember when that was a plague on the old 606.

Not on here but in the rugby game there was a new account that took over a team and then started trading players back and forth with one person in particular who then turned out to be from the same IP address.

Yeah, and it was someone who had been taking part in the game for 7 years with plenty of success, was already one of the top 2/3 sides so didn't even need to cheat

I dont get cheating on these things. Making honest mistakes yeah but doing something like that.

Hero wrote:I certainly agree with the latter points you've said Afro, not as sure in regards to retrospective punishment for failure to have a rule for it, perhaps there should have clearer specifics as to what happens in the event but having clear rules for every eventuality is hard to do. Just because one isn't there doesn't mean that what went before is dismissed. What if we got someone with a duplicate account who then traded all their players to one team to make a really strong one (just happened in the rugby game which Bam can attest to and seem to recall it's happened here a few years ago), there's many things that shouldn't happen, we don't have rules for, but somehow come to the fore and we have to discuss them and work a way forward.

As I've stated many times, I flouted the rule, I should be punished for whenever I did that imo.

Creating a duplicate account is a whole other level of weirdness...it's only an online game lads. Bloody rugby nonces

TwisT wrote:I dont get cheating on these things. Making honest mistakes yeah but doing something like that.

That's when you know you're taking it too seriously

Ok so here goes...

I'm going to let it slide for now, mainly because up until this week with Olly's being so high over the limit the rest have been only slightly over i would assume. I'm going to give a blanket decision and say that Olly will win the game against me, sorry Afro i know you have updated the table already and this will mean a change and i do appreciate it.

Going forward, i will be counting the tactics using https://wordcounter.net/ - Everyone should use this as a guide for writing weekly tactics going forward. You can access the site on mobile as well if thats how you write yours. As for the word limit, we will review it at the end of the season but it will definitely be upped and you can quote me on that however, don't expect a massive increase, maybe 100-200 words at a maximum.

For clarification on how tactics will be counted, this is an example of how i count mine and have done since the start:

Injuries: Daniele Rugani, Fernandinho, Florian Thauvin


---------------------Fahrmann-----------------------
---------Meunier---Christensen--Vertonghen------
Zappacosta------Anguissa--Tolisso------------Gaya
Robben--------------Immobile----------Albrighton


Subs: Berisha, Layun, Chalobah, Davis, Coric, Martinez, Llorente

That is how i usually set up my start to tactics and i do NOT count any of that in the overall word count however i do count the following.

Attacking
Gaya and Zappacosta to provide the width with Albrighton and Robben pushing in centrally pressuring the CB's
Tolisso pulling the strings from deep driving forward with the play working the ball into dangerous areas
Immobile to be pushing onto the last defender powering into the box for the service coming from behind
Albrighton and Robben to cut inside and look to threaten with passes or shots on goal

Defending
Gaya and Zappacosta to put a shift in on the flank, pushing back into a back 5 when we lose possesion
Meuinier to tuck in with Vertonghen to support Christensen centrally
Anguissa to drop deep just in front of the back line where he can screen the opposition out of the game
Tolisso to drop deeper when we lose the ball as the outlet to be able to pick the play up and turn defence into attack

80th - Martinez on for Albrighton
85th - Llorente on for Immobile to keep piling on the powerful threat in the area

Please take this on board when writing tactics in future.

Thanks for the clarification Miky. What are the penalties for going over, so we add to the rules page.

I'll update table and homepage shortly. Not a big job to update now as made it more automatic this morning

fairs

Cheers for clarifying.

I've done my tactics. They are exactly 200 words, as usual.

Just updated the league table, and also updated the homepage code I sent earlier Miky

And tactics in.

150ish words so room to grow!

Well Miky if you're sure that's what you wanna do thats fine although I feel oppositely as already stated (re: not giving me default losses)

Word counter is installed on the phone

spose I should do some tactics then

Anyone organising sheep today?

tactics are done

my tactics in and also have Twists

Good luck in our game Hero

Going to PM you now

okie dokie

Afro wrote:Good luck in our game Hero

Going to PM you now

I wonder what skullduggery is going on behind the scenes...

it's basically Afro explaining to Hero how he sees there game playing out..I reckon..can't see Afro being dodgy...not like that Hero

He's sent me the pics of your Mrs again.

not the ones of her on the washing machine?

That's either a tiny washing machine or your missus is massive

I like em big, harder for em to escape

Morning guys, have we got tactics to vote on? I'm out all day tomorrow and need to do it today.

Hope everyone is well. Found a chink in Jesus armour yesterday.

Penalties?

I always thought the chink in Jesus's armour was the cross

He's nailed on for them

Tactics are up, still waiting for Nando's though..

Im writing them now

Sent =] 200 on the dot

TwisT wrote:Morning guys, have we got tactics to vote on? I'm out all day tomorrow and need to do it today.

Hope everyone is well. Found a chink in Jesus armour yesterday.

crosses?

never mind...feckin phone skanked me off and I just saw Olly's post

It's the way ya tell em

Are votes in by tonight?

Very quiet here. Mid season slump?

I'm up for any deals just to get things moving a bit. A bit of domestic dealing never hurt anyone....especially if you drink Stella

Christmas time init.

Thinking of getting rid of Winks if anyone is interested. He has a buy back clause of 8m from Trebs but happy to negotiate.

When is everyone off work for Xmas?

never