Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[McLaren]

First topic message reminder :

Kwini

It amazes me that a professional footballer can end up one footed. Just practice with your weak foot every day.

I remember spending a summer playing with only my left foot in the garden. Came back next season two footed.

[beninho]

But based on the super realist obsession with obesity rankings. We have appx 22m non obese people in the uk compared to 5m in Swedan. So in all likelihood, the uk will generally have more attractive people.

But again, not sure why a drawn out discussion, on personal opinions.

Anyway, your not married are you realist, do you have a long term partner? Just wondering why no-one finds you attractive enough via looks or personality, to want to settle down? It must be difficult being lonely.

[Roller_Coaster]

Teams have to stay in their own half, regardless of whether there's a strictly come dancing moment or not. England didn't.

British teams of the past may well have insisted on having a stand round for a ciggy and a pint before the start (although the rules may have stipulated they stay on their own half rather than a pint...).

Going forward, Peter Crouch Robot dancing should be introduced by England in all sports before commencement of play.

[pedro]

Going forward, Peter Crouch Robot dancing should be introduced by England in all sports before commencement of play.

What about everybody sniffing the half way line, Robbie Fowler-style? Would be a cultural statement similar to the Haka.

[pedro]

Going forward, Peter Crouch Robot dancing should be introduced by England in all sports before commencement of play.

What about everybody sniffing the half way line, Robbie Fowler-style? Would be a cultural statement just like to the Haka.

[pedro]

Going forward, Peter Crouch Robot dancing should be introduced by England in all sports before commencement of play.

What about everybody sniffing the half way line, Robbie Fowler-style? Would be a cultural statement just like to the Haka.

[westisbest]

I'm no fan of Rugby, but why were England fined for "crossing the line" whilst the New Zealand team were performing their ridiculous haka? Why is this childish dance given special treatment?

If they insist on doing it, then fine, but there shouldn't be any rules as to what the opposition has to do in response. It's intended to intimidate, so why can't the opposition attempt to intimidate in response, or put their hands in their pockets, chuck around a ball of have a game of rock, paper, scissors.

No teams traditions should be given preference.

The haka is a New Zealand tradition. I’ve never heard anyone in all my life call it childish.
Childish of you if anything.

Why don’t to get together with some New Zealander’s and tell them it’s childish.
They will soon tell you it isn’t.

[I'm never wrong]

I remember David Campese kicking a ball around in his own 22 one time, and ignoring the haka. Commentators said it was OK.

[dynamark]

Regardless of the Haka there was only one winner if my memory serves correct .
so much sport last weekend LCFC 9 0 win went under the radar.I was at the ground around 1 pm on Friday to get a pressy for a friends birthday and there were 8 coaches loading up for the 4/5 hour trip to Southampton and I thought what a bunch of wallies all that way- home at 3 in the morning but probably well worth it.
I seem to remember Graham Rowntree stepping over the line and facing up the haka?

[super_realist]

But based on the super realist obsession with obesity rankings. We have appx 22m non obese people in the uk compared to 5m in Swedan. So in all likelihood, the uk will generally have more attractive people.

But again, not sure why a drawn out discussion, on personal opinions.

Anyway, your not married are you realist, do you have a long term partner?  Just wondering why no-one finds you attractive enough via looks or personality, to want to settle down? It must be difficult being lonely.

Not as a percentage, which is how we compare different populations. I said the AVERAGE person anyway.

Is anyone so naïve to think that every nation is as attractive as another? Our genes are DIFFERENT. It stands to reason we will look different and therefore be more or less attractive than another nation.

[super_realist]

I'm no fan of Rugby, but why were England fined for "crossing the line" whilst the New Zealand team were performing their ridiculous haka? Why is this childish dance given special treatment?

If they insist on doing it, then fine, but there shouldn't be any rules as to what the opposition has to do in response. It's intended to intimidate, so why can't the opposition attempt to intimidate in response, or put their hands in their pockets, chuck around a ball of have a game of rock, paper, scissors.

No teams traditions should be given preference.

The haka is a New Zealand tradition. I’ve never heard anyone in all my life call it childish.
Childish of you if anything.

Why don’t to get together with some New Zealander’s and tell them it’s childish.
They will soon tell you it isn’t.

So what if it's a tradition, that doesn't mean it isn't childish or stupid does it? Why would doing a stupid dance be considered something which is credible? Furthermore, why should the opposition have to stand there and observe in a particular way? That's the point. Morris dancing is traditional, that's stupid. Why isn't the Haka?

Lot's of things are traditional (e.g. black rod, Halloween, Valentines Day, eating fish on a Friday, Christmas,  giving a diamond as an engagement ring, clinking classes, not wearing a hat indoors, not allowing jeans on a golf course etc) but that doesn't mean they aren't stupid or pointless.

The haka is stupid and pointless (as is singing a national anthem before a match) and saying that I wouldn't say it to a Kiwi doesn't mean it isn't stupid and pointless. It might mean something to them, but other people shouldn't have to behave in any particular way towards it.

[westisbest]

Again, I’ve never heard anyone call it stupid or childish.
You don't follow rugby but you want to come on here and have a little pop at the haka.

Bit strange.

[super_realist]

Who cares whether you've heard anyone saying it is stupid or childish.

I was questioning WHY England were fined for crossing the line and WHY something as pointless and stupid as the haka is afforded special protected status which demands that the opposition HAVE to behave in a certain way. That's also stupid.

Why isn't it stupid? Why is doing a dance before a rugby match anything other than stupid? If you did a dance before your work, before your golf game, before an exam, before a driving test or job interview it would be STUPID. Why is it not stupid to do it before chucking an egg shape ball around?

Do Frank Nobilo, Lydia Ko, Michael Campbell or Ryan Fox do the haka before teeing off? No, so why is it necessary in a rugby match? Do the NZ football team do it? No. Athletes? No, Tennis players? No.

[westisbest]

Don’t let it get to you yeah, it’s just the haka

[beninho]

Unsure whats more childish, the haka. Or getting annoyed by the haka and letting it rile you up.

[beninho]

But based on the super realist obsession with obesity rankings. We have appx 22m non obese people in the uk compared to 5m in Swedan. So in all likelihood, the uk will generally have more attractive people.

But again, not sure why a drawn out discussion, on personal opinions.

Anyway, your not married are you realist, do you have a long term partner?  Just wondering why no-one finds you attractive enough via looks or personality, to want to settle down? It must be difficult being lonely.

Not as a percentage, which is how we compare different populations. I said the AVERAGE person anyway.

Is anyone so naïve to think that every nation is as attractive as another? Our genes are DIFFERENT. It stands to reason we will look different and therefore be more or less attractive than another nation.

So we are in agreement. People find different people attractive, nowt to do with nationality. Glad thats over and done with.

[dynamark]

We have a lot of eastern european folk here in Leicester and it has to be said the ladies tend to be pretty slim and attractive in their 20/30s .Old adage when you go out with a girl always take a look at her mum

[kwinigolfer]

We have a lot of eastern european folk here in Leicester and it has to be said the ladies tend to be pretty slim and attractive in their 20/30s .Old adage when you go out with a girl always take a look at her mum

Not so good at my age Dyna, no pics on gravestones.

[super_realist]

Unsure whats more childish, the haka. Or getting annoyed by the haka and letting it rile you up.

I'm not riled, I just think it's absurd, stupid, infantile, superstitious and ridiculous that other teams have to show deference to it. If anything it demands ridicule.

[super_realist]

But based on the super realist obsession with obesity rankings. We have appx 22m non obese people in the uk compared to 5m in Swedan. So in all likelihood, the uk will generally have more attractive people.

But again, not sure why a drawn out discussion, on personal opinions.

Anyway, your not married are you realist, do you have a long term partner?  Just wondering why no-one finds you attractive enough via looks or personality, to want to settle down? It must be difficult being lonely.

Not as a percentage, which is how we compare different populations. I said the AVERAGE person anyway.

Is anyone so naïve to think that every nation is as attractive as another? Our genes are DIFFERENT. It stands to reason we will look different and therefore be more or less attractive than another nation.

So we are in agreement. People find different people attractive, nowt to do with nationality. Glad thats over and done with.

No, we're not in agreement. It's completely laughable to claim that every nation is as attractive as one another. We've already been over some numbers. 67% of people in Britain are overweight, how can that mean that Britain is as attractive as a country where HALF as many people are overweight?

[super_realist]

Keith Vaz

Had to laugh when he claimed that the two rent boys were washing machine repairmen who came round at 11.30pm.

[beninho]

Unsure whats more childish, the haka. Or getting annoyed by the haka and letting it rile you up.

I'm not riled, I just think it's absurd, stupid, infantile, superstitious and ridiculous that other teams have to show deference to it. If anything it demands ridicule.

No one has to show deference to it, they just have to stay in their own half. Think that was explained earlier. I have no issues with the haka. Im not surprised you have taken issue with sonething so minor. Snowflake.

[beninho]

But based on the super realist obsession with obesity rankings. We have appx 22m non obese people in the uk compared to 5m in Swedan. So in all likelihood, the uk will generally have more attractive people.

But again, not sure why a drawn out discussion, on personal opinions.

Anyway, your not married are you realist, do you have a long term partner?  Just wondering why no-one finds you attractive enough via looks or personality, to want to settle down? It must be difficult being lonely.

Not as a percentage, which is how we compare different populations. I said the AVERAGE person anyway.

Is anyone so naïve to think that every nation is as attractive as another? Our genes are DIFFERENT. It stands to reason we will look different and therefore be more or less attractive than another nation.

So we are in agreement. People find different people attractive, nowt to do with nationality. Glad thats over and done with.

No, we're not in agreement. It's completely laughable to claim that every nation is as attractive as one another. We've already been over some numbers. 67% of people in Britain are overweight, how can that mean that Britain is as attractive as a country where HALF as many people are overweight?

Britain has less overweight people then swedan, based on your obesity obsession figures. But I'm unsure how or why, you want to argue that different people find different people attractive. Its strange, and bizarre to focus on countries. But you are clearly a strange and bizarre person.

Anyway, thats my point.

[superflyweight]

But based on the super realist obsession with obesity rankings. We have appx 22m non obese people in the uk compared to 5m in Swedan. So in all likelihood, the uk will generally have more attractive people.

But again, not sure why a drawn out discussion, on personal opinions.

Anyway, your not married are you realist, do you have a long term partner?  Just wondering why no-one finds you attractive enough via looks or personality, to want to settle down? It must be difficult being lonely.

Not as a percentage, which is how we compare different populations. I said the AVERAGE person anyway.

Is anyone so naïve to think that every nation is as attractive as another? Our genes are DIFFERENT. It stands to reason we will look different and therefore be more or less attractive than another nation.

So we are in agreement. People find different people attractive, nowt to do with nationality. Glad thats over and done with.

No, we're not in agreement. It's completely laughable to claim that every nation is as attractive as one another. We've already been over some numbers. 67% of people in Britain are overweight, how can that mean that Britain is as attractive as a country where HALF as many people are overweight?

Because someone who is overweight can be attractive and someone who is not overweight can be unattractive.

[westisbest]

Exactly

[McLaren]

Super

Have you ever sampled a fatty?

[pedro]

Because someone who is overweight can be attractive and someone who is not overweight can be unattractive.  

But I guess superflyweights are always attractive.

[superflyweight]

Because someone who is overweight can be attractive and someone who is not overweight can be unattractive.  

But I guess superflyweights are always attractive.

I've had more than my fair share of complaints.

[super_realist]

But based on the super realist obsession with obesity rankings. We have appx 22m non obese people in the uk compared to 5m in Swedan. So in all likelihood, the uk will generally have more attractive people.

But again, not sure why a drawn out discussion, on personal opinions.

Anyway, your not married are you realist, do you have a long term partner?  Just wondering why no-one finds you attractive enough via looks or personality, to want to settle down? It must be difficult being lonely.

Not as a percentage, which is how we compare different populations. I said the AVERAGE person anyway.

Is anyone so naïve to think that every nation is as attractive as another? Our genes are DIFFERENT. It stands to reason we will look different and therefore be more or less attractive than another nation.

So we are in agreement. People find different people attractive, nowt to do with nationality. Glad thats over and done with.

No, we're not in agreement. It's completely laughable to claim that every nation is as attractive as one another. We've already been over some numbers. 67% of people in Britain are overweight, how can that mean that Britain is as attractive as a country where HALF as many people are overweight?

Britain has less overweight people then swedan, based on your obesity obsession figures. But I'm unsure how or why, you want to argue that different people find different people attractive. Its strange, and bizarre to focus on countries. But you are clearly a strange and bizarre person.



Anyway, thats my point.

How does Britain have FEWER overweight people than SWEDEN (not Swedan) If 2/3rd's of the UK are overweight, then that's over 40million people of the UK that is overweight, how can that ever be FEWER than a country of 10? million like Sweden?

The point in question was that the AVERAGE Swedish person was MORE ATTRACTIVE than your average British person. Have you actually looked around the UK lately? 2/3rd of the population is overweight, that's 50% in Sweden. Being overweight is NOT generally regarded as an attractive trait, therefore a HIGHER % of Swedish people are MORE ATTRACTIVE.

I can't even understand WHY someone would even try to pretend that certain countries were not more attractive than another. It's as stupid as claiming that you "don't see colour".

[super_realist]

Unsure whats more childish, the haka. Or getting annoyed by the haka and letting it rile you up.

I'm not riled, I just think it's absurd, stupid, infantile, superstitious and ridiculous that other teams have to show deference to it. If anything it demands ridicule.

No one has to show deference to it, they just have to stay in their own half. Think that was explained earlier. I have no issues with the haka. Im not surprised you have taken issue with sonething so minor. Snowflake.

Actually, any team that doesn't stand and face the opposition gets absolute pelters for not showing "respect".

If they turn their backs, chuck a ball about or whatever they are considered to be out of order.

Anyway, glad England got annihilated yesterday.

[super_realist]

But based on the super realist obsession with obesity rankings. We have appx 22m non obese people in the uk compared to 5m in Swedan. So in all likelihood, the uk will generally have more attractive people.

But again, not sure why a drawn out discussion, on personal opinions.

Anyway, your not married are you realist, do you have a long term partner?  Just wondering why no-one finds you attractive enough via looks or personality, to want to settle down? It must be difficult being lonely.

Not as a percentage, which is how we compare different populations. I said the AVERAGE person anyway.

Is anyone so naïve to think that every nation is as attractive as another? Our genes are DIFFERENT. It stands to reason we will look different and therefore be more or less attractive than another nation.

So we are in agreement. People find different people attractive, nowt to do with nationality. Glad thats over and done with.

No, we're not in agreement. It's completely laughable to claim that every nation is as attractive as one another. We've already been over some numbers. 67% of people in Britain are overweight, how can that mean that Britain is as attractive as a country where HALF as many people are overweight?

Because someone who is overweight can be attractive and someone who is not overweight can be unattractive.  

It is considerably more rare than someone who is in good shape.

[beninho]

How does Britain have FEWER overweight people than SWEDEN (not Swedan) If 2/3rd's of the UK are overweight, then that's over 40million people of the UK that is overweight, how can that ever be FEWER than a country of 10? million like Sweden?

The point in question was that the AVERAGE Swedish person was MORE ATTRACTIVE than your average British person.  Have you actually looked around the UK lately? 2/3rd of the population is overweight, that's 50% in Sweden. Being overweight is NOT generally regarded as an attractive trait, therefore a HIGHER % of Swedish people are MORE ATTRACTIVE.

I can't even understand WHY someone would even try to pretend that certain countries were not more attractive than another. It's as stupid as claiming that you "don't see colour".[/quote]

Did I say GB had fewer overweight people then Swedan? I thought I said we had more non overweight people then Sweden. Which is obvious isn't it, based on population.

But again, what is the average Swede? Are you basing it on pure Scandinavia, or have you a thing for the Somali look, I know swedan has a big immigramt population, and lots from africa. So still unsure how you work out an average look on a culturally mixed country. ? Do you like black girls super?

And nope, I don't generally think a country is more attractive, but individuals from different countries are attractive.

[dynamark]

Super it was Vaz who claimed to be the washing machine man I think.Hopefully he gets his dues this time
Folk in these parts love him ( not literally) the mans a slimey obnoxious piece of dirt.I had some arms length dealing with him many years ago over an auction lot and he was just as bad back then.To think he was a star man in Labour makes you seriously wonder about the rest.

[dynamark]

Kwini mate you need to be aiming at the younger ladies then you might might be able to meet their mum .
Ii may be living in a dream world

[Be_the_ball]

Awful leg break for Andre Gomes earlier

https://youtu.be/ODjz6ZBtfoY

[McLaren]

Awful leg break for Andre Gomes earlier

https://youtu.be/ODjz6ZBtfoY

Was it even Son that broke his leg, sky are too squeamish to show the decent replays but from the video above it seems as likely that Aurier flying in was just as likely to have done it. It was never a red card for Son.

Just look at this frame.

[Be_the_ball]

Yeah doesn't look like Son's challenge. Red will probably be rescinded. Nasty break though. Hopefully he fully recovers.

[super_realist]

Super it was Vaz  who claimed to be the washing machine man I think.Hopefully he gets his dues this time
Folk in these parts love him ( not literally) the mans a slimey obnoxious piece of dirt.I had some arms length dealing with him many years ago over an auction lot and he was just as bad back then.To think he was a star man in Labour makes you seriously wonder about the rest.  

I think this relates to an historical issue, it's just that it's typical Labour not to suspend him straight away and take months to sort it out.
I'm not saying politicians have to be squeaky clean, but paying people to shag you and arranging to get drugs is not something that should be allowed for a politician. He's doing the usual though and hiding behind "mental health issues". Seems to be the standard excuse these days of anyone who wants to be excused for doing something dodgy. Fairly dishonourable and disrespectful of people who have genuine mental health issues.

Can't trust any politicians, they're all full of merde. Both sides making absurdly stupid promises, both Steptoe and Fat Boris running scared of each other and the delusional Swinson thinking she'll actually be the next PM whilst the revolting SNP scowl in the corner with a massive chip on their short man syndromed shoulder. To think that we laugh at American politics when we are in this state. Hopefully I can get out of this joke of a country soon.

[super_realist]

Did I say GB had fewer overweight people then Swedan? I thought I said we had more non overweight people then Sweden. Which is obvious isn't it, based on population.

But again, what is the average Swede? Are you basing it on pure Scandinavia, or have you a thing for the Somali look, I know swedan has a big immigramt population, and lots from africa. So still unsure how you work out an average look on a culturally mixed country. ? Do you like black girls super?

And nope, I don't generally think a country is more attractive, but individuals from different countries are attractive.

Yes, you did.

Britain has less overweight people then swedan

You simply have to walk down any street in Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, Bergen, Stavanger, Gothenburg etc to see how much better they take care of themselves. Better shape, better health, better dressed and styled = more attractive.


Don't you understand that having high numbers of attractive people brings up the average? That's what average means. It's a combination of EVERYONE/divided by the number of people. You are never viewing the country as a whole, so you never see that Britain has more non fat people than Sweden based on population, you only ever see a sample, and the sample in Sweden is considerably better than the sample you see in the UK.

Same as certain countries have HIGHER AVERAGE intelligence than others, or do you deny that too?

Britain has higher average obsesity than Japan for instance, want to deny that too?

By the way, I've been to Scandinavia countless times. There is immigration, but it's no more visible than anywhere else except in certain places like Malmo and nothing like gutter press like Fox News, who spread the nonsense about immigration hellholes would have you believe.

[beninho]

Its just your opinion. Its not fact. Scandis get you going, not the immigrant ones though.

Fine, I have no such opinion. But I've not been to scandi land, but deal with a lot of them though homelessness at the council. Swedish, Danes and Norwegians.

So, it all comes back to individuals opinions.

[McLaren]

Super

Rank these countries in order of attractiveness.

UK
USA
Norway
Poland
Italy
Nigeria
Japan
Mexico
India
Thailand

[navyblueshorts]

Super

I am sure I saw a few stand out scandi hotties but to say that means the population as a whole is more attractive (whatever that means) than another seems impossible to verify. As Ben said it pretty much comes down to preference.

Mac, 67% of British people are overweight or obese. Sweden is 50%. In an evolutionary sense Sweden is by definition a more attractive population as we are predisposed to be attracted to healthier and fitter people unless you are one of those weird people who fancy fatties.

Interesting point, but for most of evolution food was scarce so people on the fuller side were thought (and still are in places) to be more attractive. From evolution's perspective, fuller figure equates to good at getting food, so good at feeding offspring in all likelihood. Slim == attractive is a recent thing.

[navyblueshorts]

I'm no fan of Rugby, but why were England fined for "crossing the line" whilst the New Zealand team were performing their ridiculous haka? Why is this childish dance given special treatment?

If they insist on doing it, then fine, but there shouldn't be any rules as to what the opposition has to do in response. It's intended to intimidate, so why can't the opposition attempt to intimidate in response, or put their hands in their pockets, chuck around a ball of have a game of rock, paper, scissors.

No teams traditions should be given preference.

[navyblueshorts]

I'm no fan of Rugby, but why were England fined for "crossing the line" whilst the New Zealand team were performing their ridiculous haka? Why is this childish dance given special treatment?

If they insist on doing it, then fine, but there shouldn't be any rules as to what the opposition has to do in response. It's intended to intimidate, so why can't the opposition attempt to intimidate in response, or put their hands in their pockets, chuck around a ball of have a game of rock, paper, scissors.

No teams traditions should be given preference.

The haka is a New Zealand tradition. I’ve never heard anyone in all my life call it childish.
Childish of you if anything.

Why don’t to get together with some New Zealander’s and tell them it’s childish.
They will soon tell you it isn’t.

Yes, because all those non-Maoris have traditionally performed a war dance such as the Haka. It may be 'tradition' (albeit recent), but it's a positive psyche up for the All Blacks - why should the opposition get told off whenever they 'stand up to it'? Why should the ABs have that advantage immediately pre-kickoff?

[navyblueshorts]

Keith Vaz

Had to laugh when he claimed that the two rent boys were washing machine repairmen who came round at 11.30pm.

Yeah, he was imagining they were re-enacting a porn movie..

[Davie]

They are not "told off" for standing up to it - just for encroaching into the opponent's half

[beninho]

The haka is not a recent tradition its been done from at least 1905.

Also, stop thinking England were fined for standing up to it. They were fined for encroaching into the other teams half. Its really simple.

[westisbest]

The haka is not a recent tradition its been done from at least 1905.

Also, stop thinking England were fined for standing up to it. They were fined for encroaching into the other teams half. Its really simple.

[Davie]

The haka is not a recent tradition its been done from at least 1905.

Not in its current form though - that originated in the 80s I guess. I remember seeing them performing it in the 70s(??) when Graham Mourie was captain and it was unrecognizable from what it is now - much more like morris dancing

[navyblueshorts]

They are not "told off" for standing up to it - just for encroaching into the opponent's half

Yep. Get that, but there's a history of anyone showing 'disrespect' being told to get back in their box. Personally, I'm bored with it and I'm bored with the ABs being allowed a free, last-minute opportunity to psyche themselves up.

[Davie]

When Campese took time in his own 22 to practice kicking, was he punished? I don't think so.

The only time I can think of anyone being censured for "disrespecting" them was when they got right in their faces. I don't particularly agree with the Haka being totally sacrosanct but you're not really making sense here. Can you give examples of someone being sanctioned for something other than being excessively aggressive towards it?

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