England post 2022 6Ns, Aus tour and beyond

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sensisball wrote:
With Bath enduring a terrible season how many tries has Cokonasiga scored?

In five starts and four sub appearances he's bagged five tries. One appearance and one try for England.

It's a bench lacking experience but it's the type of players we'd like to have as options come the world cup.

Ignore the front row that pretty much picked itself.

Chessum - covers lock and 6 highly mobile and physical, good lineout option and we've been desperate for a young lock to come through.

Ludlam - covers 8 and 7 which is what the bench needs, club captain so adds much needed leadership here.

JVP - no one likes the current 9 options for last season's Under 20 captain and player of the J6N gets a chance. Best kicking game of the three 9s on tour and likes to play high tempo.

Porter - covers every position in the backs outside of 9 and 10, could probably do a job on the flank as well. Eddie likes a versatility option as they very much help the overall squad come world cup so audition time for Guy.

Arundell - exciting young player, not ready yet but Eddie will be hoping some international game time might speed up his development. Unlikely starter but potential game changer off the bench, always handy to have one of those at a world cup. Porter's inclusion means Arundell won't have to go in early unless there's multiple injuries.

A bit better from England with Smith and Steward holding the defence for Freeman, but the support isn’t good enough

Bumbling all around from everyone ...

Decent goal kick at least ...

Very decent clearance under pressure by Smith, but the chase wasn’t good enough

Smith making a lot of tackles. He doesn’t stop men in them tracks but he slows them down.

England just look flat and Australia blowing chances with poor handling

Good run from Freeman, but lack of awareness. Care was calling for the grubber

Yet another forward pass - are they even going to check it?

Why aren't forward passes being called today?

Steward needed to stay on the two wide guys and trust Nowell to make the tackle there. I hope the forward pass gets checked.

That is a bloody mile forward!

That’s what you call a 1-2

The officials are poor too ... although ref from NZ so shouldn't be surprised they don't mind a forward pass.

Great try! He didn't do much to help his kicker...

Good question. On the try Steward either didn't know he had cover defense or or reacted and followed the ball.

Would need to see a slow mo and all the camera angles but it didn't look obviously forward to me

That move had 2 forward passes - you'd think they'd at least spot the blindingly obvious one ...

Wonder if Jones is regretting suggesting the TMO get used less often.

Ref’s attitude to the ball going forward is feeling a bit asymmetrical at the moment

Who is the TMO? - if it's another kiwi there's no chance they'll see a forward pass ...

Billy did release him!

That pen went the wrong way - Billy released and then the Aussie then went to squeeze ball

This ref is a disgrace, that's several decisions that haven't gone England's way so far.

Harsh on Billy there

Koroibete is a sexy beast of a winger though

All Wallabies just now

Vunipola’s hands were very clearly off the ball carrier there… but he didn’t listen to the ref. Not getting a good feeling about how today’s officiating is going to go, because the Aussies are getting a lot of bad calls in their favour right now.

England poor but officials much worse ... 10 points gifted to Oz already

Reece Hodge's kicking has made a big difference this test. A lot of the big Wallabies wins in the last few years have had his involvement.

Not that kick though!

Heaf wrote:England poor but officials much worse ... 10 points gifted to Oz already

Not much wrong with the try! No clear and obvious forward pass

Looked pretty forwards to me - although to be fair I haven't watched a replay yet

Well, he jolly nearly knocked that on, didn’t he sir?

Steward is so good

Care off - is that tactical?

Another pass miles forward not called.

England haven't played particularly well, but they're only four points adrift which bodes well for when they hit a dominant patch.

Care off. Interesting. Could be the end of his England career, shortly after its rebirth.

Duty281 wrote:Another pass miles forward not called.

England haven't played particularly well, but they're only four points adrift which bodes well for when they hit a dominant patch.

Care off. Interesting.

pour quoi?

England are getting the edge in the scrum - probably not entirely justified but the Aussies aren’t getting on his good side.

I wonder if that could be the end of Danny's England career, that is a pretty brutal substitution (unless he is injured of course).

When did you last see a 9 subbed off before halftime for a tactical sub?

Big moment this, if England score they'll think we got out of jail.

Jones est un fou

Have it!

Another bad choice from Freeman. Surely he has to reach for that?
Steward makes sure of it, though.

Farrell hitting the post was 4d chess.

Brave call from England pays off!

England will be delighted with that HT score - not really done much all half but going in ahead.

Hill could have had that chalked off for the shirt pull. Lucky boy.

Farrell not brought his kicking boots.

If the pattern follows the last two games, we could be in trouble in the second half. If England can string 80 minutes together, they've got this.

England looking poor but still manage to go in ahead ... someone needs to have a word with Mr Magoo and his chums about forward passes and clear releases as they seem to be having a bit of trouble spotting them ...

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:Jones est un fou

The best description of Eddie Jones I have ever read.

On the other hand, when I watch this match I keep thinking of mid-table Premiership clubs going at it. Maybe because it is still early....

Defence (particularly out wide and off first phase ball) is still hide-behind-your-hands at times.  Against better teams it will get taken apart.

Just watched the first Oz try again now - definitely forwards ...

That is just boneheaded.