2022 T20 World Cup thread

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

First topic message reminder :

We're now just over a fortnight out from the qualifying round, and team news is ever changing around the teams in the tournament.

Unfortunately today Jasprit Bumrah has been ruled out of the tournament (and a while after) with a back injury. Big blow to India that one, and a World Cup with no Archer/Bumrah (arguably the two best t20 fast bowlers in the world) is a huge shame

[alfie]

Starting to look as if the weather may well decide who plays in the semi finals...

IF the rest of the group games are able to be played , things are still rather open in this group. As we have seen , no result can really be assumed. Strong chance NRR may end up decisive - which might influence teams' approach to games ; potentially making upsets even more likely !

[Duty281]

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England soar from 4th to 2nd in the group.

[alfie]

Officially off so I can go and start streaming Scandinavian detective dramas...

Hope for some cricket tomorrow - but pretty sure my own club games are going to be off too

[Duty281]

Fingers crossed for a Sri Lankan win tomorrow.

[VTR]

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England soar from 4th to 2nd in the group.

Superb performance, showing clear signs of bouncing back from the Ireland defeat!

[KP_fan]

This group is a Pot that is still being stirred....will start settling after 1 more round
As I see it if Afg can beat and Lanka and Aus, in their last two games...they too can get thru

[Galted]

Guess Duty will have to review making SA favourites if rain is going to decide the tournament.

[Duty281]

This group is a Pot that is still being stirred....will start settling after 1 more round
As I see it if Afg can beat and Lanka and Aus, in their last two games...they too can get thru

Yeah, it's wide open. Forecast looks good for all the remaining games, with a slight question mark over Afg v SL and NZ v Eng on the 1st November. But, as of now, I'd say we'll get a result in all the remaining games.

Most likely scenario is a three-way tie on 7 points between the three main teams, with NZ and Aus going through on NRR, but England will be playing Sri Lanka in the very last group game, and that gives England an advantage as they would know (in this scenario) exactly what they need to do v SL to qualify.

However, just the one upset in the remaining games, perhaps SL beating NZ tomorrow or Ireland toppling Australia, and the forecast for the group gets completely flipped again.

The weather, overall, is forecast to be a lot better in the coming weeks, so today may be the last no-result we'll see at this World Cup.

[alfie]

Very open. Not sure three teams on seven is favourite though. Can England beat NZ ? Certainly shouldn't be assumed.
If they can , then I'd think they have a good chance of topping Australia on NRR : sure the home team has an apparently easier draw ; but they are starting a fair way behind after that thumping first game defeat. And as you say , Duty , England play (Sri Lanka) last.

Anyway hope you are right about no more wash outs !

[KP_fan]

Here is the other group

India needs to win 2 out of 3 that will get them to 8 points
and its highly likely they will overcome BD & Zim without much troubles

SA need to win 3 out of 3 to get to 9 points and be a 100% certain
If they win only 2 SA could be tied at 7 point with Zim

Given Zim beat Ned and BD comprehensively & don't lose to India by BIG margin.
Pak is too far back and BD don't look like having the form / resources to win

Ind-SA favorites and Zim with an outside chance

[KP_fan]

& SA still need to play the two big boys Pak & Ind...and they could well lose 2 out of 3

[Duty281]

Very open. Not sure three teams on seven is favourite though. Can England beat NZ ? Certainly shouldn't be assumed.
If they can , then I'd think they have a good chance of topping Australia on NRR : sure the home team has an apparently easier draw ; but they are starting a fair way behind after that thumping first game defeat. And as you say , Duty , England play (Sri Lanka) last.

Anyway hope you are right about no more wash outs !

Might have been early on this one! The BBC is currently saying that Brisbane will be hit by continual heavy rain early on Tuesday, from about 02:00 to 11:00 local time, before easing into a light rain which should cease at 14:00. Afghanistan are meant to play Sri Lanka there at 14:00, and England versus New Zealand is at 18:00, so if this forecast materialises then both games will be doubtful. England will be moving into miracle required territory if that game is rained off.

[Duty281]

NZ v Sri Lanka the only game tomorrow. Group 1 is already wide open; and now Sri Lanka can blow the bloody doors off if they turn NZ over.

Fair to say Sri Lanka aren't in the best shape. They've lost three seamers to injury and already played five games across Australia in this competition in the last couple of weeks. But they did run Australia fairly close last time and may take some comfort from it. If they are going to win this one they'll need Hasaranga back to his best, after a woeful few overs v Australia.

NZ are completely different. Only played one game at this competition so far - the demolition of Australia seven days ago - and have a settled squad that is free from injury. Big favourites for this one, and becoming one of the favourites to win their first major limited-overs ICC trophy, after getting so close last year and in 2019 - but will the pressure have a negative effect?

[Duty281]

Kiwis choosing to bat first and, unlike v Australia, they're in early trouble - 7/2, both dangerous openers dismissed.

[alfie]

This terrific effort from Phillips has NZ on track for a winning score despite the early wobbles.

Sri Lanka set to really regret dropping him early ! On to 98 . Deserves a hundred...

[alfie]

And has it ! NZ 153/5 with one to go might feel they've got out of jail here. I would fancy their chances of defending about 160

[alfie]

Very open. Not sure three teams on seven is favourite though. Can England beat NZ ? Certainly shouldn't be assumed.
If they can , then I'd think they have a good chance of topping Australia on NRR : sure the home team has an apparently easier draw ; but they are starting a fair way behind after that thumping first game defeat. And as you say , Duty , England play (Sri Lanka) last.

Anyway hope you are right about no more wash outs !

Might have been early on this one! The BBC is currently saying that Brisbane will be hit by continual heavy rain early on Tuesday, from about 02:00 to 11:00 local time, before easing into a light rain which should cease at 14:00. Afghanistan are meant to play Sri Lanka there at 14:00, and England versus New Zealand is at 18:00, so if this forecast materialises then both games will be doubtful. England will be moving into miracle required territory if that game is rained off.

Yeah I saw that forecast. Bit vague as to times etc as yet...but certainly looks a risk. Would be very cruel to be eliminated via a DLS and two wash outs !

[alfie]

Phillips out at last after that excellent innings...but 166 should be a winning score I think.

Sri Lankan fielding really let them down

[Duty281]

Won't be many feeling worse than Nissanka. Drops one he should have caught in his sleep - would have dismissed Phillips for 12 and seen NZ reduced to 29/4. Instead, Phillips makes a century and NZ get 167. Game-changing and possibly tournament-defining.

Overall, SL were terrible in the field, and Hasaranga was lucky to escape sanction for his slingshot deliveries.

There is one short boundary, but this total should be well beyond Sri Lanka. The NZ seamers should find plenty of swing early on.

[Duty281]

5th ball duck for Nissanka as well, with Sri Lanka collapsing to 8/4! NZ surely in the semis even if they lose to England.

24/5. They don't need it, but looks as though NZ will be getting a healthy boost to their NRR.

[alfie]

Reckon this will be NZ just about into the semi finals -as it looks like being a comfortable win. (barring more major upsets , of course) Unless they lose to both Ireland and England their NRR should be plenty.



Might be good for England . Kiwis might not be as desperate for a win ...

[Duty281]

We'll never know what would have happened had Nissanka taken that catch...but they could have kept NZ below 130 and had a serious chance in this one. Instead they've been hammered and are pretty much out. He'll be feeling low for quite a while.

It's clearer now in the group. Presuming Australia beat Afghanistan and Ireland, and NZ beat Ireland, that'll leave both of those teams on 7 points. England need to beat NZ and Sri Lanka to make it a three way tie at the top and hope to best Australia on NRR.

If England and NZ is a NR due to weather, and England beat Sri Lanka, England will have to hope that either Afghanistan or Ireland defeat Australia...which is quite a long-shot, but it would put England through without needing NRR (as England would have six points to Australia's five). If England won one and lost one of their remaining two, they'd still need to hope Australia lost one and then they would be relying on NRR (five points each).

There are even slimmer possibilities, but let's not go into those! England need to hope the weather improves for Brisbane on Tuesday (it's currently looking worse) and win both games.

Back to Group 2 tomorrow for three games. Zimbabwe should be favourites to beat a fragile Bangladesh and take a step closer to the semi-finals, though Zimbabwe are actually the outsiders with the bookmakers. Pakistan and the Netherlands is a battle of the 0%ers (at least in the Super 12 stage), but Pakistan should easily win this one. It would be the biggest shock of the tournament if they lost. And then a battle of the heavyweights between India and South Africa. Zimbabwe will be hoping for a huge Indian win in this one.

[KP_fan]

Opened my TV to find Nz 23-3
Wow we have another upset...even before that thought could settle
Lankans dropped a dolly at long on
And from that point SL just kept sliding down in the match

Loose cricket both on field and in mind.
They lack intensity and focus to grab the moments and nail the advantage

The only material impact Lankans can make on this world cup now is knocking contenfer Eng pit .out.
Low probability that though

[KP_fan]

Never seen a game like this before .
The new stumping rule and crossing over by batsmen not allowed has added to drama....as have big grounds and sporty pitches .

Shades of Ind-Pak game in terms of excitement and Drama.
Unfortunately, Sean William could not finish it.
Unlike the Pak game, the spinners of BD in the end could bowl fast skiddy stuff, hard to connect and Gabba is a huge ground.
Shakib pulling off that run out lying on ground was great but the turning point was the new rule where batsmen crossing over during a dismissal is not allowed any more.

BD get to 2nd place in group but their wins have come against Ned and Zim and their last two games are vs Ind and Pak
Ind can take neither BD nor Zim for granted but they have to deal with SA efficiently first.

[alfie]

Bizarre finish ! WK would have been devastated if that free hit had gone to the boundary...

Think that means Zimbabwe are in trouble as they will have to defeat India to get more than five points which won't be enough. If Bangladesh can beat both their two more renowned neighbours they really will deserve a spot in the semis !

[alfie]

This one is a bit of a fizzer...Netherlands only mustering 91 so I don't think Pakistan can mess this one up...

[KP_fan]

The only.thing this game shows is if Ned or anyside could put 140 on the board on a pitch like this they could stretch Pak

The only.way for Pak to stay in competition is if Ind beats SA today

[Duty281]

Very dramatic finish in the Bangladesh and Zimbabwe game. Huge chance missed for Zimbabwe after the Pakistan win, so a very disappointing night for them. Similar problem for Zimbabwe in that they lost wickets in clusters - four of the top five didn't chip in anything with the bat and it left Williams to much to do on his own.

Then the expected Pakistan walkover of the hapless Dutch side.

Teams seem to have figured they should bat first.  One of the main reasons I'm enjoying this tournament is because of how big the boundaries are at the majority of grounds. It makes fours and sixes harder to come by, so they're a genuine event when they happen. Then there's the increased possibility of 2s and 3s in the deep, which tests good running, communication, and quick/strong fielding from the deep. Infinitely preferable to slog-a-thons played on tiny postage stamp grounds. Also, there's plenty in the pitches for the bowlers early on, which means there's a fair contest going on, rather than the usual bat-dominated processions.

If South Africa win this upcoming game then they should be through to the semi-finals. It would put them on 5, they've got the virtually guaranteed 2 coming from the Dutch game, so make it 7 overall, and then the Pakistan game doesn't matter. And, if that happens, India would be highly confident of joining them with games v Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to come.

However, if South Africa lose, the group opens up. India would have one spot locked down, but the second place finish would be tightly contested with just two points separating Bangladesh (4), South Africa (3), Zimbabwe (3) and Pakistan (2), all having two games to play.

South Africa's NR v Zimbabwe could end up costing them big time...unless they win today, in which case they can relax.

[Guest]

Apart from the patchy weather, this WC is a lot better than the one last year.

[alfie]

The only.thing this game shows is if Ned or anyside could put 140 on the board on a pitch like this they could stretch Pak

The only.way for Pak to stay in competition is if  Ind beats SA today

Not quite true ...alternatively India could lose to Bangladesh and Zimbabwe...although I think that is unlikely

In a bit of trouble here now as Kohli goes...

[Duty281]

Three for Ngidi, both openers and Kohli accounted for, he's loving the bounce of Perth.

Fairweather Indian fans silenced.

[alfie]

Apart from the patchy weather, this WC is a lot better than the one last year.

Two edged sword really : the wet weather is helping to produce some reasonably bowler-friendly pitches ; but it is also messing up things by washing out many fixtures - making qualification a bit of a lottery.

[Guest]

Apart from the patchy weather, this WC is a lot better than the one last year.

Two edged sword really : the wet weather is helping to produce some reasonably bowler-friendly pitches ; but it is also messing up things by washing out many fixtures  - making qualification a bit of a lottery.

Valid point

[Guest]

This guy Nortje is bowling rockets…

[Duty281]

49/5. The heat of these South African quicks on these fast, bouncy wickets is too much for anyone to handle.

Join me on the 'South Africans are favourites to win this competition' bandwagon.

[KP_fan]

India appears back against Wall
BUT
Pitch is paciest  and bounciest on display
India understood that right, got  the extra batsman in correctly.
But wasn't able to execute
Back against the wall
They need to play out 10 more overs and try to put a fighting 130 on board

[alfie]

Yes your pre-tournament tip are doing well , Duty ! But of course the semi-final might be a different animal. I wouldn't dare suggest a possible choke-point

[alfie]

But to be serious...yes , SA have been very impressive. Not just the incisive bowling , but some excellent fielding - something that really counts on these big grounds. Must be a real chance of lifting the trophy - and their chances of at least reaching the knockouts remain very much in their own hands whatever happens tonight.

Still got work to do here : if India can get up around 140 , say , their pace men might fancy this pitch too.

[Pal Joey]

Apart from the patchy weather, this WC is a lot better than the one last year.

Yes, the weather has been unfortunate in some venues but all matches in the UAE were played within a 100 mile distance - with the same arid desert climatic conditions.

There is far more diversity in climate, local conditions and therefore cricket pitches in Australia. Just compare, say, Hobart and Brisbane; Sydney and Perth. Teams need to adjust game plans for each venue and also players (batters and bowlers) may favour one venue over another.

It's more of a challenge and leads to more interesting matches in my opinion. Sometimes conditions will favour bowlers (especially when it's wet) but we've also seen some good scores (2 innings over 200 runs) when conditions are dry and the pitch is hard and the boundaries are slightly smaller.

Also, there's a bit of a history of white ball cricket in Australia with over 50 years of closely contested (usually) international series every year so the fans are accustomed to being entertained every summer (even though it's still spring). Over the last decade or so, we've seen growing numbers of folk from countries like India (a huge increase), Sri Lanka, Pakistan and even Bangladesh and Afghanistan call Australia home... so naturally they come out to these matches in force.

Of course England, SA and New Zealand are also traditionally well supported - but like the locals - they are outnumbered by the Indian diaspora out here. Even for us local Australians, it sometimes feels like an away game (at home) when India are playing here.

[Duty281]

Decent little fightback this from the ever-dangerous Yadav...but why is Karthik playing ahead of Pant?

[KP_fan]

SKY keeps going naturally and DK holding one end.
They need to get to last 3 overs and then go bang both ends

[Guest]

This Yadav fellow is decent. Not sure how he plays some of these weird shots though.

[alfie]

Splendid fifty for S Yadav...and don't India need it !

Going to put some serious pressure on the SA death bowers.

[KP_fan]

First target 130 to fight
Then 140 to compete
150 will be a winning total

[KP_fan]

DK was expected to deliver more
130 back on cards as upside now

[Duty281]

Amazing innings from a 'finisher'. Karthik 6 off 15. Useless. Get Pant in, India.

Probably a bad wicket for SA to take as Ashwin can score boundaries.

[KP_fan]

Rahul , DK passengers and Hooda not having thr class
Classiest Pant cannot be kept out now

[KP_fan]

The pace and bounce in this pitch would make even a first inning test match score of 150 also OK

SKY might be playing the inning of his life when pitch and match context filters are applied

[alfie]

Important last couple of overs coming up. India would love a frisky twenty plus off these...

Have to do it without Ashwin as he's become another victim for the excellent Parnell.

[KP_fan]

Well ashwin could have gone for one more over
But
We have Bhuvi thankfully who can hold the bat
And every inch of batting will be utilized

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