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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu 24 Aug 2023, 6:58 am

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Smith in the back field worked nicely against Ireland. We could interchange him and Steward on defensive duty but keep both in the backfield to receive kicks. Ford dropping in it one or the other has chased a kick up field.

I'd like to see if given a go as the attack does need an injection of something and the AB tactic isn't a bad one. Ruck speed and security needs a big upgrade though as that is the main element killing our attack.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:35 pm

Presume he was behind the back foot?

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Post by Yoda Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:35 pm

Go on Fiji! Hopefully this speeds up borthwicks disastrous reign.


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Post by doctor_grey Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:35 pm

What was Earl looking at? Obviously not the ball. So much for the Ben Earl rock and roll train.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:36 pm

RFU should consider marketing Twickenham as a place of quiet contemplation.

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Post by mountain man Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:36 pm

This is turning into a nightmare, gruesome defence.
England going to lose this.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:37 pm

Another dire bit of defence there.

Dual playmakers on in the second half again with Ford and Smith together.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:39 pm

Yes. Get the kicks raining in now.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:39 pm

See kick get the luck and the tries will be plentiful.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:39 pm

Wow a kick worked - unless they find a way to rule it out

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:40 pm

Heaf wrote:Wow a kick worked - unless they find a way to rule it out
But it was a poor kick, a great play by Smith.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:41 pm

Simply unforgivable the amount of handling errors exhibited from England in this game.

If Fiji do win, it would be their first ever win over England.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:41 pm

Hmm, looked in front. A bit lucky?

Also Englands over celebrations are comical.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:42 pm

Couldn't really tell from that angle TBH

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Post by king_carlos Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:43 pm

Muntz has been impressive throughout alongside Lomani it must be said.

The two playmakers together immediately finding something to be slightly cheerful about. I would've wanted to see that from another angle though. Not convinced it was level. These things are so often looked at laxly in these friendlies though. There were a few that felt it went against England in the Ireland game.

That's far better defence from May. Nayacalevu is not slow, to run him down and make that sort of hit is really good work to be fair.

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Post by TJ Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:43 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:Hmm, looked in front. A bit lucky?

Also Englands over celebrations are comical.

Ref did yo a big favour there. I thought he hated England?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:45 pm

Clearly level. Definitely not obvious so attack is favoured as per the laws.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:45 pm

Mitchell has largely had a better game than the three SHs we've previously seen in the warmups so that's a frustrating error.

Big kick for Muntz... And he nails it. He looks a really good player and is exactly the sort of player Fiji likely wouldn't develop if not for the Drua. A sign of that system working.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:46 pm

From the angle shown it wasn't clear and obvious ...

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:47 pm

Kick it more!

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Post by Duty281 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:48 pm

Sinfield is coaching England in the ways of Rugby League with all this chipping and punting in the opposition 22.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:48 pm

Why keep it in hand when you're 5m from the line when you can kick it away ...

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:48 pm

The attack is cooking under Wiggy.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:48 pm

Nice to see Ford's decision making is right up there. Keep kicking when it is not on. Bloody hell.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:49 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:The attack is cooking under Wiggy.
It's Wiggly, not Wiggy.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:50 pm

Hoooooooof.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:52 pm

Ludlam has once again been good since coming on. On this he'd be my starting 8 ahead of Billy even if he is fit. I just hope Curry can get fit to take one of the flanks for R1.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:52 pm

Twickers is bouncing.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:52 pm

Another backs try - I'm dreaming ...

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:53 pm

Lovely kick that.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:53 pm

Danny Care. Wow.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:54 pm

Marchant has been a rare positive across a very depressing run of warmups. He should be locked in at 13 for R1.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:54 pm

Drop the ball from the kick-off - it's so f&cking predictable

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:54 pm

His experience will help him put that out of his mind though.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:55 pm

Not a maul. Guys. What's a maul as I'm not sure anymore.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:55 pm

Surely that was a maul?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:57 pm

Massively impressed by this defence. Come the next 6 nations I may have a bet on England not conceding any tries.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:57 pm

Drop the ball - eventually get it back but then miss touch with the clearance ... jeez

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:58 pm

Hooooooof.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:58 pm

The idea that the first thing a new coaching team fixes is a team's defence has been coming under some severe scrutiny with England.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:58 pm

Just remember, this is not Fiji's best team.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Aug 2023, 4:59 pm

Kicked it away again FFS!!!!!

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 5:01 pm

Rugby Fan wrote:The idea that the first thing a new coaching team fixes is a team's defence has been coming under some severe scrutiny with England.

Think it's just because the attack looks that good it's overshadowing the defence tbf.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 26 Aug 2023, 5:01 pm

I really love Ravutaumada as a winger but that's once again lacklustre defence to allow the offload. He should be getting wrapped up man and ball when stepping inside to a defence with plenty of numbers. Just poor.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Aug 2023, 5:01 pm

That's the game now - well done Fiji

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 26 Aug 2023, 5:05 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:The idea that the first thing a new coaching team fixes is a team's defence has been coming under some severe scrutiny with England.

Think it's just because the attack looks that good it's overshadowing the defence tbf.

I admire your commitment to this schtick.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Aug 2023, 5:05 pm

Pool C is looking interesting now ....

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 5:05 pm

Well another 80 mins on the edge of my seat. Nice to see Fiji win as its a nice day for them while we look forward to the big one round the corner. Fitness looks on point. Attack crackling. Defence like a wall.

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Post by Maine man Sat 26 Aug 2023, 5:06 pm

I bet England are glad there is no relegation in the 6 nations. 😉

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Post by Duty281 Sat 26 Aug 2023, 5:06 pm

Historic moment for Fiji. Very well done to them, fully deserved. Got a real shot of making it out of their group, which is incredibly open.

England? Christ. So short of the basics that you have to wonder what Borthwick and co have been doing in training.

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Post by mountain man Sat 26 Aug 2023, 5:06 pm

Horrendous. Attack pretty good but defence utterly utterly awful.


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