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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Sep 2023, 7:45 pm

First topic message reminder :

I couldn't see a topic to discuss general WC stuff and non home nations games.......

Now we do...

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Post by Heaf Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:06 pm

TAFKA The Oracle wrote:How come this match is the one that has brought out all of The WUMs??? All the posts and threads about the WC have been great so far. Headscratch

To be fair there have been plenty of comments about potential officiating errors in other matches ...

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:06 pm

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LeinsterFan4life wrote:Fiji absolutely robbed of a half time lead. So infuriating.

Oh for god’s sake how are they robbed? We get people saying this on every Wales match thread.
You're supposed to wrap when you make a tackle... It was a clear PT

There was no attempt to make a legal tackle there. Not sure PT as there were other tacklers there. Given where it took place it could have been a yellow card. I can only assume Carley misheard what the TMO said and thought he said there was arms and not no arms. Such a blatant bit of foul play.
Yeah certainly a foul. I was surprised by how quick Carling made the call.

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Post by TAFKA The Oracle Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:07 pm

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TAFKA The Oracle wrote:How come this match is the one that has brought out all of The WUMs??? All the posts and threads about the WC have been great so far. Headscratch

To be fair there have been plenty of comments about potential officiating errors in other matches ...

I was thinking more the likes of Collapse laughing at a Welsh player going for a HIA Crying or Very sad

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Post by RiscaGame Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:09 pm

Elias should be on a yellow. I did think it might be a PT, but you can’t say with any certainty that he scores without Elias’ intervention. I did think the Fijian jumped too at first, but not sure of that now.

That said, the clear forward pass invited a lot of pressure too.

Refs miss a lot early. We all know the officials at the best competition in the world are substandard.

Wales are playing all wrong. I love wainwright, but he’s not doing anything and we need a physical six really.

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Post by king_carlos Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:09 pm

He was likely laughing at the delay between the knock and him coming off being long enough for a commentator to question why he wasn't getting checked to be fair. No one's happy to see a player potentially hurt.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:09 pm

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LeinsterFan4life wrote:Fiji absolutely robbed of a half time lead. So infuriating.

Oh for god’s sake how are they robbed? We get people saying this on every Wales match thread.
You're supposed to wrap when you make a tackle... It was a clear PT

There was no attempt to make a legal tackle there. Not sure PT as there were other tacklers there. Given where it took place it could have been a yellow card. I can only assume Carley misheard what the TMO said and thought he said there was arms and not no arms. Such a blatant bit of foul play.

Happens at almost every collision, only now you want it sorted? There was nothing in it, the player dived over the tackler.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:10 pm

TAFKA The Oracle wrote:
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TAFKA The Oracle wrote:How come this match is the one that has brought out all of The WUMs??? All the posts and threads about the WC have been great so far. Headscratch

To be fair there have been plenty of comments about potential officiating errors in other matches ...

I was thinking more the likes of Collapse laughing at a Welsh player going for a HIA Crying or Very sad

And with all the stigma regarding head trauma…

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Post by Collapse2005 Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:10 pm

It served him right for faking an injury, even the Fiji guy went over to get him up. That was funny.

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Post by TAFKA The Oracle Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:11 pm

Biggar can give out all he wants to his players, but he’s left 6 points out there already now (or is it 5?). Must do better.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:11 pm

TAFKA The Oracle wrote:Biggar can give out all he wants to his players, but he’s left 6 points out there already now (or is it 5?). Must do better.

He should have a word with himself.

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Post by king_carlos Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:12 pm

RiscaGame wrote:Elias should be on a yellow. I did think it might be a PT, but you can’t say with any certainty that he scores without Elias’ intervention. I did think the Fijian jumped too at first, but not sure of that now.

That said, the clear forward pass invited a lot of pressure too.

Refs miss a lot early. We all know the officials at the best competition in the world are substandard.

Wales are playing all wrong. I love wainwright, but he’s not doing anything and we need a physical six really.
There's been a few forward passes missed this opening weekend.

I'm not sure Rowland's is stopping that without Elias.

It's done now though.

Wales are playing much smarter now. The coaches have clearly driven the game plan back into them.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:13 pm

Great tackle made on LRZ.

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Post by king_carlos Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:13 pm

What a hit. God, Fiji are brutal in contact.

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Post by Morgan75 Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:13 pm

Do TMOs even check forward passes as there have been quite a few this weekend

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Post by Duty281 Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:13 pm

Early contender for tackle of the tournament.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:14 pm

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TAFKA The Oracle wrote:Biggar can give out all he wants to his players, but he’s left 6 points out there already now (or is it 5?). Must do better.

He should have a word with himself.

It wouldn’t be a bad idea for Biggar to go off. He doesn’t have the temperament for this one, plus his tackling and kicking isn’t up to scratch.

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Post by king_carlos Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:15 pm

Get Botia on. Tuisue is one of the few Fiji players you'd barely know is on the pitch at the moment.

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Post by TAFKA The Oracle Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:16 pm

Wales made hard work of that.

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Post by king_carlos Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:16 pm

Jac Morgan is such a talented player. A future Lion right there. I love watching him play.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:16 pm

European teams structure and discipline will almost always trump that Fijian flair. It's why Fiji just can't step up to that next level.

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Post by Heaf Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:18 pm

Wales seem to have settled down a bit now ... if they keep their heads they should be OK.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:18 pm

Want to see a replay of Williams scoup pass

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Post by king_carlos Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:19 pm

Huge from Adams to be fair.

Fiji are missing Muntz so much. He added that control and structure from 10 that Fiji had missed since Nicky Little retired. Lomani and Muntz were looking like their best ever halfback pairing.

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Post by Morgan75 Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:19 pm

Heaf wrote:Wales seem to have settled down a bit now ... if they keep their heads they should be OK.

You’re talking about wales here (and I’m a Welshman!)

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Post by Duty281 Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:19 pm

Duty281 wrote:Early contender for tackle of the tournament.

Josh Adams putting in his own entry.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:20 pm

king_carlos wrote:Huge from Adams to be fair.

Fiji are missing Muntz so much. He added that control and structure from 10 that Fiji had missed since Nicky Little retired. Lomani and Muntz were looking like their best ever halfback pairing.
Yes a hammer blow before the tournament. He's also a great place kicker unlike the others.

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Post by king_carlos Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:22 pm

I can't understand Botia not being on. Get your best player on the pitch for goodness sake.

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Post by TAFKA The Oracle Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:23 pm

king_carlos wrote:I can't understand Botia not being on. Get your best player on the pitch for goodness sake.

They’ve left a lot of good players at home too! Get them on the plane!

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:25 pm

Morgan75 wrote:
Heaf wrote:Wales seem to have settled down a bit now ... if they keep their heads they should be OK.

You’re talking about wales here (and I’m a Welshman!)

Yeah, Fiji look like they can score from everywhere. We’re not off the hook yet.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:25 pm

Wales are using their kicking game this half. Making a huge difference.

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:27 pm

king_carlos wrote:

Fiji are missing Muntz so much. He added that control and structure from 10 that Fiji had missed since Nicky Little retired. Lomani and Muntz were looking like their best ever halfback pairing.

Strongly agree on this, losing him has been a body blow to their chances at the tournament. He’s exactly what they’ve been needing to help control and direct their play for a long time. Such a shame!

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Post by king_carlos Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:27 pm

Finally, Botia on. The man is a freak athlete.

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Post by king_carlos Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:29 pm

Must be a yellow for Biggar. That's as cynical as it gets.

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Post by Morgan75 Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:30 pm

king_carlos wrote:Must be a yellow for Biggar. That's as cynical as it gets.

I’m amazed that he didn’t yellow card him

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Post by king_carlos Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:30 pm

If Wales are smart you drop this scrum. If you get penalised then it's the same situation again. If the lottery goes your way you get out of jail.

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Post by carpet baboon Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:31 pm

Question. Are you allowed to throw your face at the boots of a player carrying the ball?
As I'm sure you can't and have seen a lot of it this tournament so far when defending the try line

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Post by TAFKA The Oracle Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:31 pm

This has all come from Tomos Williams’ sliced box kick. We were doing well until then.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:31 pm

king_carlos wrote:Must be a yellow for Biggar. That's as cynical as it gets.

Carley bottled that like he bottled the no arms tackle in the first half.

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Post by Heaf Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:32 pm

Just a warning - soft

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:34 pm

Biggar got away with one and should be another player subbed by now.

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Post by Heaf Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:35 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Biggar got away with one and should be another player subbed by now.

He's a card waiting to happen

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:35 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Biggar got away with one and should be another player subbed by now.

He's looked a bit of a liability in defence but he's led the kicking game that's got Wales on top this half. The Baabaas stuff they were trying in the first half stamped out.

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Post by TAFKA The Oracle Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:37 pm

Problem is, we need our best defensive effort and for me the subs are worse in that area: Costello, Dyer, Dee are not a good defensively as Biggar, Adams and Elias. We’re in danger of throwing this away with weaker subs while Fiji have arguably strengthened.


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Post by carpet baboon Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:37 pm

That is absolutely Horse poop

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Post by king_carlos Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:37 pm

That's an absolute joke after the calls at the other end.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:37 pm

Yellow seems harsh here. Fiji must have a significantly higher penalty count.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:38 pm

That is an absolute disgrace that Fiji got a yellow for that. WTF!!!

Wales killed the ball about five times the other end, dreadful refereeing.


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Post by Duty281 Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:38 pm

That's a disgrace. Fiji have been absolutely done in here by the officials.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:38 pm

That's ridiculous. No warning and yellow. Wales got away with murder in their 22 and only a warning.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 10 Sep 2023, 9:39 pm

Is Carley Welsh?

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