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Post by Lee Mon 10 Jun 2024, 10:56 am

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It's coming up. Who are you supporting? Who do you think will win? Who gets the golden boot?

How you feeling for your teams chances? I'm not massively into international footy but a tournament is always a laugh.

I have France winning the lot. Maybeee Kane for golden boot. Yeah that'll do. I'll be supporting The Netherlands I reckon.

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Post by Soul Requiem Sun 30 Jun 2024, 8:24 am

Duty281 wrote:Very smooth win for Germany, looking very much like potential winners.

Did you watch the game?

They put a few decent moves together but got the right of a very marginal offside and an incorrect handball decision for the penalty. They were sloppy in possession and would have been punished by better opposition.

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Post by GSC Sun 30 Jun 2024, 9:39 am

Yeah I think there's still a nervousness that it's a fairly brittle German team, especially as this was their first knockout tie win since 2016. Imperious against a limited Scotland team but Hungary had their chances, the Swiss played them well and Denmark unlucky with decisions here. If it's a QF against Spain I'd have to back the Spanish on current form
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Post by owen10ozzy Sun 30 Jun 2024, 10:23 am

Looking increasingly likely Mainoo will be the only change to the side tonight; so i for one cannot wait to watch Trippier & Walker provide no width at all....Bellingham operate in minimal space because its being taken by Foden & Saka ..and Kane drop 40 yrds deep because he is starved of service. 🙄🙈

Honestly if anyone hasnt seen or read Southgates pre press conference.....if you wish to view stubborness & delusion at its best then cracking viewing!

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 10:52 am

Don't see how Denmark were unlucky with decisions. All decisions were correct under the current laws and interpretations, however much we may dislike the current laws and interpretations, including Germany's disallowed goal and the brilliant call from Oliver to not give Germany a FK in a dangerous position after Havertz had a shot.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 10:56 am

owen10ozzy wrote:Looking increasingly likely Mainoo will be the only change to the side tonight; so i for one cannot wait to watch Trippier & Walker provide no width at all....Bellingham operate in minimal space because its being taken by Foden & Saka ..and Kane drop 40 yrds deep because he is starved of service. 🙄🙈

Honestly if anyone hasnt seen or read Southgates pre press conference.....if you wish to view stubborness & delusion at its best then cracking viewing!

Nice to see Mainoo in, but yeah no other changes it seems. Just hope England can move the ball a bit quicker, see a few more runs from players, a couple of 1-2s would be nice, and maybe Southgate can use his bench a bit earlier if required?

England haven't managed an xg of 1 or greater in a single match at this Euros...neither have Slovakia....so a 5-3 barnstormer awaits? laughing

The draw has really opened up for the God of Luck, it's beginning to look like Germany's run to the 2002 World Cup final. But can England take advantage?

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Post by Soul Requiem Sun 30 Jun 2024, 2:21 pm

Under the laws of the game that was not a handball, it was neither deliberate nor was the arm in an unnatural position.

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Post by Luke Sun 30 Jun 2024, 2:22 pm

sirfredperry wrote:That was easily the worst Italian team I've seen.
True

But Switzerland looked good, pressed at right time, attacked with numbers and never really let Italy near there goal. 
Switzerland looked like a team, Itay looked like they met in the dressing room.
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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 3:56 pm

Team as expected.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 5:06 pm

Well this is a right wobble of a start.

Guehi in the book already, out of a possible QF and having to play 87 minutes with a card. England not dealing with the Slovak press, resulting in Slovakia getting a great chance after four minutes.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 5:17 pm

Every foul is a card, new directive.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 5:25 pm

Slovakia take the lead. Rolling Eyes

No real surprise. England have been diabolical whenever Slovakia have attacked. All of the back four have made errors. Walker's positioning has been shocking.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sun 30 Jun 2024, 5:28 pm

Absolute dog sh*te!

Could see it coming miles off. Walker has been dreadful. England terrible defensively....which every said would be the case when coming against anything lively.

Players are dreadful....but this comes down to Southgate alone. Stubborn in his thinking...players playing wrong position..then after 3 games a refusal to admit neither the system nor players are working and makes 1 sole change!

3 of the easiest tournament draws you will ever see and the man is well on his way to wasting another cycle.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 5:32 pm

Changes needed on the left desperately...about two games ago, but now would be nice. Rice's passing has been a let down. Need to see more movement from Mainoo and Bellingham.

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Post by GSC Sun 30 Jun 2024, 5:32 pm

Don't worry Gallagher will be on at half time
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Post by owen10ozzy Sun 30 Jun 2024, 5:34 pm

Need to see movement from the whole team. Its like playing against statues.

Trippier and Walker providing no overlap threat. Bellingham & Foden again occupying same space. Kane deep. Almost every player on that pitch looks back whenever the ball comes to their feet. Its embarassing.

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Post by GSC Sun 30 Jun 2024, 5:40 pm

Needs some big changes at half time. Gareth's last if he doesn't go for it.
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Post by GSC Sun 30 Jun 2024, 5:51 pm

Might as well chance Shaw, Trippier is useless at LB. Trent could equally play RB given Walkers output

Palmer and Gordon need on sharpish too.
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Post by alfie Sun 30 Jun 2024, 5:52 pm

Slovakia seem to be channelling Iceland...

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 5:53 pm

Yep, 45 minutes for Southgate to save his England career. This will be worse than Euro 2016 if England go out here. But still time to save it.

There's been some bright spots from Mainoo and Bellingham. Little flickers, but nothing more. They do worry the Slovakians when they get on the run at them. Mainoo needs to get further up.

England's left isn't working. You know it, I know it, somehow Gareth doesn't, but maybe he'll wake up now? Need Gordon on that left side. Need Trippier removed as well.

Saka, once again, has had little to no support from Walker. He's been isolated, but has shown some link up ability with Mainoo. A bizarre number of long balls have been hit to Saka.

Back four have all been dreadful in defence. Slovakia have eased off since the goal, a classic mistake, they were really hurting England on the counter before.

Give Kane another 20, then he needs to come off as well. England definitely risking a red, also, with how many cards are being produced.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sun 30 Jun 2024, 5:57 pm

GSC wrote:Might as well chance Shaw, Trippier is useless at LB. Trent could equally play RB given Walkers output

Palmer and Gordon need on sharpish too.

Dont understand this thinking...why chance Shaw? Change Trippier sure....but change the system more importantly....it isnt working & hasnt worked all tournament.

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Post by GSC Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:00 pm

The lack of width on the left wing has been a problem all tournament. We only brought one though
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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:04 pm

No changes? Doh

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:10 pm

This linesman is a donkey. How do you miss an offside that blatant? How did he miss the ball going out of touch earlier?

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:14 pm

Nearly two. Stones daydreaming.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:19 pm

That should be a red. Every England player should be asking for a red. They don't bloody do it. Slovakia and every other team would in the same situation.

15 minutes and still no changes?!!!!!

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Post by owen10ozzy Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:21 pm

Slovakia making changes before England 🤣🤣 You couldnt make it up could you!

If we lose this & Southgate goes over to applaud the fans then he may well be the bravest man out in Germany right now 😅

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:24 pm

And how on earth is that not a FK either?

What on earth is going on?

Changes! Southgate's remembered it's not 1935 and changes can be made. Saka to LB and Palmer to RW. Ah, so it's an injury enforced change.

19 with another foul?!!!!!!! How is he not sent off?

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Post by GSC Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:26 pm

Ref was giving yellows for foul throws and now Slovakia are kicking lumps out for free
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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:30 pm

25 minutes gone in the half and England have made one (enforced) substitute.

Yet some actually think Southgate is the best England manager since Sir Alf. It's hilarious.

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Post by GSC Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:34 pm

Out with a wimper rather than having a go
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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:38 pm

Kane misses a great chance.

Still no more changes. Like, I genuinely don't understand. I know Southgate's clueless and out of his depth, but I didn't think he was this clueless. Would any changes have been made if Trippier didn't get injured?

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Post by GSC Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:38 pm

Even Kane can't bury a free header. It's all broken
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Post by owen10ozzy Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:40 pm

No overlap runner...Bellingham out wide and 2 players in the box......

People may think im joking but this tournament & Southgate within it has been worse than anything served up by Hodgson and id go as far as saying is even worse than McLarens failure to get us to a major tournament.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:42 pm

I've always rated Southgate below Hodgson. Hodgson had scraps to work with, compared to Southgate's feast of players.

Southgate should have bee sacked long ago. He's utterly clueless. Some think that because he managed to get past the likes of Sweden and Ukraine in QFs he was some genius.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:43 pm

Wow, one more change with seven minutes left.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:53 pm

WHAT IS THE POINT OF BRINGING TONEY ON WITH TWO MINUTES OF ADDED TIME LEFT?

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:54 pm

Bellingham gets Southgate out of jail.

Good finish, and exactly why I want to see Bellingham in the box more.

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Post by GSC Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:55 pm

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Post by GSC Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:56 pm

Well now we have one midfielder on the pitch 🤣
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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:58 pm

Southgate clueless, brainless and idiotic, two minutes from the sack, but gets bailed out by one of his stars.

Slovakia didn't attack at all in that half, it cost them. England stay alive.

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Post by alfie Sun 30 Jun 2024, 6:58 pm

That's called leaving it late...

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 7:00 pm

That was England's first shot on target, too.

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Post by GSC Sun 30 Jun 2024, 7:00 pm

Trent and (whisper it quietly) Gallagher perhaps.
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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 7:03 pm

Slovakia don't clear and Kane doesn't miss from four yards.

England out of jail and (probably) into the quarters.

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Post by GSC Sun 30 Jun 2024, 7:04 pm

2 goals in 2 minutes. Now we have to find some shape
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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 7:04 pm

Do NOT sit back. Look for the third. Is it 5-3-2 now?

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Post by GSC Sun 30 Jun 2024, 7:06 pm

Eze at LB, Saka at RB, Palmer at CM it's all happening
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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 7:07 pm

I have to say, Kane and Toney up top, with Bellingham just behind, is a lovely idea.

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Post by GSC Sun 30 Jun 2024, 7:09 pm

Toneys added a lot as a focal point already
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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2024, 7:12 pm

Commentators clueless. A team can make *six* substitutions when a game goes to ET, meaning England have three left, not two.

Not liking England getting deeper here, but not sure what Slovakia have to unlock it.

Toney already shown that he should have been brought on in the 60th/65th minute, not 95th.

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