Rugby Union Legends Game - Draft

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Rounds One and Eleven (Loosehead Prop and Winger)
1.Banafan-aka-hon - Os Du Randt/Jonah Lomu
2.GloucesterBear - Jason Leonard/David Campese
3.Pullthestrings - Tom Smith/Jason Robinson
4.Bathite - Tony Woodcock/John Kirwan
5.Inthefastlane - Bill Young/Bryan Habana
6.Driver - Trevor Woodman/Shane Williams
7.Steven_Sharks - Craig Dowd/Jeff Wilson
8.Prop_Lyd - Olo Brown/Ieuan Evans
9.LDCPete - Christian Califano/Joe Roff
10.Lukelovesluka - Graham Rowntree/Rory Underwood

Rounds Two and Twelve (Hooker and Centre)
1.GloucesterBear - Keith Wood/Tana Umaga
2.Pullthestrings - Sean Fitzpatrick/Philippe Sella
3.Bathite - Raphael Ibanez/Tim Horan
4.Inthefastlane - Brian Moore/Danie Gerber
5.Driver - Steve Thompson/Will Greenwood
6.Steven_Sharks - Phil Kearns/Scott Gibbs
7.Shark Bite Cider - Uli Schmidt/Frank Bunce
8.LDCPete - Anton Olivier/Mike "Frail" Gibson
9.Lukelovesluka - John Smit/Jeremy Guscott
10.Banafan-aka-hon - Keven Mealamu/Stirling Mortlock

Rounds Three and Thirteen (Tighthead Prop and Centre)
1.Pullthestrings - Carl Hayman/Brian O'Driscoll
2.Bathite - Phil Vickery/Jason Little
3.Inthefastlane - Al Baxter/Denis Charvet
4.Driver - Paul Wallace/Will Carling
5.Steven_Sharks - Graham Price/Yannick Jauzion
6.Prop_Lyd - Jeff Probyn/Phil de Glanville
7.LDCPete - Fran Cotton/Ray Gravell
8.Lukelovesluka - John Hayes/Elton Flatley
9.Banafan-aka-hon - Pascal Ondarts/Mike Catt
10.Cookie Monster 15 - Richard Loe/Aaron Mauger

Rounds Four and Fourteen (Lock and Winger)
1.Bathite - Martin Johnson/Doug Howlett
2.Inthefastlane - John Eales/Rupeni Caucau
3.Driver - Bakkies Botha/Christophe Dominici
4.Steven_Sharks - David Giffin/Philippe Saint-Andre
5.Prop_Lyd - Bill Beaumont/Tony Underwood
6.LDCPete - Robin Brooke/James Small
7. Lukelovesluka - Simon Shaw/Joe Rokocoko
8.Banafan-aka-hon - Brad Thorn/Va'aiga Tuigamala
9.GloucesterBear - Olivier Merle/Lote Tuqiri
10.Pullthestrings - Malcolm O'Kelly/Cedric Heymans

Rounds Five and Fifteen (Lock and Full Back)
1.Inthefastlane - Fabien Pelous/Serge Blanco
2.Driver - Victor Matfield/Christian Cullen
3.Steven_Sharks - Wade Dooley/Gavin Hastings
4.Prop_Lyd Moss Keane/Matt Burke
5.LDCPete - Ian Jones/J.P.R Williams
6.Lukelovesluka - Danny Grewcock/Percy Montgomery
7.Banafan-aka-hon - Chris Jack/Josh Lewsey
8.GloucesterBear - Olivier Brouzet/Chris Latham
9.Pullthestrings - Paul O'Connell/Gareth Thomas
10.Bathite - Nathan Sharpe/Mils Muliaina

Rounds Six and Sixteen (Blindside and Scrum Half)
1.Driver - Richard Hill/Fourie Du Preez
2.Steven_Sharks - Francois Pienaar/Gary Armstrong
3.Prop_Lyd - Josh Kronfeld/Robert Jones
4.LDCPete - Jean Pierre Rives/Jean-Baptisite Elissalde
5.Lukelovesluka - Martin Corry/Kyran Bracken
6.Banafan-aka-hon - Rocky Elsom/Byron Kelleher
7.GloucesterBear - Reuben Thorne/Graeme Bachop
8.Pullthestrings - Jerry Collins/Pierre Berbizier
9.Bathite - Fergus Slattery/Bryan Redpath
10.Inthefastlane - Graham Mourie/Dimitri Yachvili

Rounds Seven and Seventeen (Openside and Prop)
1.Steven_Sharks - Michael Jones/Gethin Jenkins
2.Prop_Lyd - Richie McCaw/Gareth Chilcott
3.LDCPete - Peter Winterbottom/David Sole
4.Lukelovesluka - Neil Back/Rodrigo Roncero
5.Banafan-aka-hon - George Smith/Greg Somerville
6.GloucesterBear - David Wilson/Pieter De Villiers
7.Pullthestrings - Martyn Williams/Dai Young
8.Bathite - Serge Betsen/Sylvain Marconnett
9.Inthefastlane - Phil Waugh/Martin Castrogiovanni
10.Driver - Schalk Burger/Adam Jones

Rounds Eight and Eighteen (No8 and Hooker)
1.Prop_Lyd - Zinzan Brooke/Colin Deans
2.LDCPete - Wayne Shelford/Peter Wheeler
3.Lukelovesluka - Scott Quinnell/Richard Cockerill
4.Banafan-aka-hon - Lawrence Dallaglio/Mark Regan
5.Gloucesterbear - Taine Randell/Jeremy Paul
6.Pullthestrings - Sergio Parisse/Ciaran Fitzgerald
7.Bathite - Dean Richards/Gordon Bulloch
8.Inthefastlane - Morne Du Plessis/Michael Foley
9.Driver - Tim Rodber/Mario Ledesma
10.Steven_Sharks - Gary Teichman/Yannick Bru

Rounds Nine and Nineteen (Scrum Half and Free Choice)
1.LDCPete - Joost VD.Westhuizen/Thomas Castaignede
2.Lukelovesluka - George Gregan/Austin Healy
3.Banafan-aka-hon - Nick Farr-Jones/Carlos Spencer
4.GloucesterBear - Agustin Pichot/Simon Easterby
5.Pullthestrings - Rob Howley/Neil Jenkins
6.Bathite - Justin Marshall/Emile Ntamack
7.Inthefastlane - Matt Dawson/Juan Martin Hernandez
8.Driver - Mike Phillips/Brian Lima
9.Steven_Sharks - Fabian Galthie/Jonathan Davies
10.Prop_Lyd - David Kirk/Derek Quinnell

Rounds Ten and Twenty (Fly Half and Free Choice)
1.Lukelovesluka - Stephen Larkham/Ben Kay
2.Banafan-aka-hon - Jonny Wilkinson/Abdelatif Benazzi
3.GloucesterBear - Grant Fox/Jaque Fourie
4.Pullthestrings - Dan Carter/Lewis Moody
5.Bathite - Michael Lynagh/Chris Paterson
6.Inthefastlane - Naas Botha/Sebastien Chabal
7.Driver - Andrew Mehrtens/Dafydd James
8.Steven_Sharks - Mark Ella/Andy Irvine
9.Prop_Lyd - Hugo Porta/Alan Bateman
10.LDCPete - Joel Stransky/Mike Teague

Kirwan played in the 1990's, up to you though if you think he would be rated when he played in the 90's how good was he in the 90's is what you have to think about.

GloucesterBear wrote:Kirwan played in the 1990's, up to you though if you think he would be rated when he played in the 90's how good was he in the 90's is what you have to think about.

I thought that players were rated at their peak of their powers?

Make up your mind!

Yes they are, your decision was the 90's his peak time you decide?

I thought we were doing 80's too!! If we're going with pick when it's your go shall I do hook + no8?

That goes against everything your saying!?!!

Kirwan was a quality player before the 90s but still very good in the 90s. You have said players will be rated by the highest rating, so in this case circa 87 i would imagine. To qualify for this game you need to have played since 1990, so if kirwan is selected, he will be rated at the best of his ability, which happens to be before 1990! This system doesn't make any sense!

He played in the 90's therefore he is available, im not saying he isn't.

If you want him, go for him im not stopping you, and it's not 80's players Prop would be a bit difficult for some people.

Ok now worries bear! Shall I do my hooker and no8 so that the ball continues rolling? Means others can pick too and speed it up!

For those players where they played in the 90's but their peak was during the 80's I will be rating them at their level in 1990.

It will be replacement hooker, not starting hooker we haven't done starting hooker yet, but you can choose your 8 as your first in the list in that section.

pullthestrings you got it spot on, up to you Bathite please decide who you want as your first winger cheers.

Argh ok, I know the 2 hookers I want but not sure if my replacement will be snapped up so will wait

No8: zinzan Brooke

If you come first in any section from Rounds two and twelve to Rounds five and fifteen you can pick your players for the two positions it states, so we can speed things up.

If you are listed as first from rounds six to sixteen to Round ten and twenty and you are online, you can pick your player for the first position it states.

So as Steven is 1st in rounds seven and seventeen he can pick his openside flanker, but not his second scrum-half, because we haven't done starting scrum-halfs yet.

Do you get me guys?

it will sort itself out in the mix. . . . . christ am drinking som estrong gin and tonic . . .

Already hon???? I've got whiskey to warm me up before the cricket!!

ahahha cricket a wash out here - although we have been on pims as a soft drink between G&Y's - I haev to work all day tomorrow!!!! Poopie!

ahhh see I get the weekend off!! You'll just be on here all day anyway

Why have we changed from 1980 to 1990???

I am not overly happy about that in all honesty as I think it takes away a bit from the game for the older amongst us who remember the amateur days.

im happy doing 80/90/00/11 - its up to you guys really

LDCPete wrote:Why have we changed from 1980 to 1990???

I am not overly happy about that in all honesty as I think it takes away a bit from the game for the older amongst us who remember the amateur days.

Exactly my point!

I thought i was signing up to a game that featured ex players/legends. I don't want anyone who is still playing to feature

Bathite wrote:I thought i was signing up to a game that featured ex players/legends. I don't want anyone who is still playing to feature

jesus mate - if its a legends game you HAVE to include people that are current as well as older!!!!!!!

Same Bathite!! I had loads of 80's players lined up!! My backline takes a battering. I'm not picking anyone who's still playing. Kind of making w.c 2003 as my limit.

There are current players who are legends, McCaw, Smit, Wilko etc

I have no issue including them

prop_lyd wrote:Same Bathite!! I had loads of 80's players lined up!! My backline takes a battering. I'm not picking anyone who's still playing. Kind of making w.c 2003 as my limit.

Good to see someone agrees with me. Don't think anyone can be a legend whilst still playing.

I agree there Pete but like if people pick giteau/joc/aac etc etc then I don't class them in that league!

Guys I have seen an issue with the multiple rounds being open. I was going to pick Zinzan Brooke as my 6 (providing Driver hadn't already taken him of course) but prop has taken him as an 8. Where is the limit with regards to player position? Wilko has started a Lions test as a 12, does that make him a 12?

As im first in Round 2 and 12.

Keith Wood for Hooker
Tana Umaga for Inside Centre

Zinzan Brooke is known as a 8, Wilkinson is known as a 10 so you pick them as a 8 and 10.

One minute we agreed on no 80's players, now some of us want 80's players, if people have 80's players lined up we might aswell include them then.

But stop changing everything because I will lose track if I ain't careful.

80's players back on, but players who currently play now will still be included because there are some very good one's who can't go missing and the game needs a wide range of players, McCaw, Wilkinson, Smit are legends or quality players so im advising people to still pick them, Pullthestrings has picked Woodcock as his loosehead is that unacceptable?

I see your point Bear but Umaga could be considered a 13 not a 12, What/who is the law over players positions?

Anyway, at openside I pick Michael Jones

It's there main positions loads of players will play different positions, but I would rather you pick on there real proper secure positons.

Like Brooke played mostly 8
Wilkinson plays mostly at 10
Umaga plays mostly at 12

Do we just pick who we want now?

Sorry Bathite picked Woodcock as his loosehead should you moan at him?

Read my above Driver mate.

As your top for round six and sixteen, you are allowed to pick your blindside flanker now, but not your back-up scrum-half, because we haven't done starting scrum-halfs.

Fairly easy.

Ah Right

Richard Hill it is then

Then at Blindside I will take Francois Pienaar

Im the first pick at lock, so i'll go for martin johnson. easiest decision i have ever made!

Seeing as he's classed in legend status then Richie McCaw at openside!

Bill Young--Bryan Habanna

Trevor Woodman and Shane Williams

If you are first or next in line in Round 1 and 11 to 5 and 15, you can pick your two players for the positions it states.

If you are first or next in line in Round 6 and 16 to Round 10 and 20, you can pick your player for the first position it states, but not the second as we haven't done starting scrum-half, starting hookers and starting props yet and free choice will come last when we have done everything else.

Clear enough?

Thanks guys

Ahh i've got my loosehead and winger ready!! I don't reckon people will go for them

So pullthestrings by the above comment, you can pick your hooker and inside centre and your tighthead prop and outside centre, as your next in line in both of those rounds.

prop as your online and your next in line in Rounds Six and Sixteen

You are allowed to pick your blindside flanker, but not your second scrum-half as we haven't done starting scrum-halfs.

Josh Kronfeld!!

LDCPete if your on you are next in line in rounds seven, eight and nine.

So you can pick your openside, number 8 and starting scrum-half.

Driver-----bbm me when it's my go!! I'm off out now but have ones lined up!!

Inthefastlane as your next in line in Rounds four, five and fifteen.

You can pick your Lock number 4, Lock number 5 and your full-back.

So we are waiting on Pullthestrings to pick his players in a couple of positions, LDCPete to do the same aswell as inthefastlane.

Steven you can pick your loosehead prop and first winger, while Luke you can pick your fly-half.

Bathite wrote:

prop_lyd wrote:Same Bathite!! I had loads of 80's players lined up!! My backline takes a battering. I'm not picking anyone who's still playing. Kind of making w.c 2003 as my limit.

Good to see someone agrees with me. Don't think anyone can be a legend whilst still playing.

dont be stupid guys - wilkinson, Mccaw, Collins, Chabal - al legends and all playing?
The fun of the game is being able to mix and match man - c'mon!