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Post by GloucesterBear Tue 14 Jun 2011, 11:54 pm



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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 15 Jun 2011, 3:07 pm

I am interested. provided it doesn't get to complicated

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 15 Jun 2011, 3:12 pm

Nah I don't do complicated Steven.

I won't have as many links as the Aviva and ERL game, just do tables, foreign transfers and domestic transfers and fixtures.

If we get 10 players, then I will let you pick a name for your team. If you have read the rules you can call your team whatever name you want.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Jun 2011, 3:25 pm

I'm in.
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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 15 Jun 2011, 3:29 pm

my team can be called 'The Marlborough Devils' please Smile

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Post by Bathite Wed 15 Jun 2011, 4:03 pm

Yeah why not

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 15 Jun 2011, 4:19 pm

For those who have joined please get a simple link in please, set it out as you normally do just like you have done with the Aviva and ERL games.

Please number your players in your side to make up 25, all teams must have.

2 Hookers
3 Props
3 Locks
4 Flankers
2 Scrum Halfs
2 Fly Halfs
4 Centres
3 Wings
2 Full-Backs

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 15 Jun 2011, 4:20 pm

Also for the people who haven't chose a team name yet please do so.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Jun 2011, 4:25 pm

Can I just make a bit of a suggestion around transfers.

If you have 10 teams each trying to sign 25 players that is 250 players and it is going to become messy and complicated and a bit of a free for all.

It may make sense to have some sort of draft/pick system making it fair for all.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Jun 2011, 4:27 pm

Also if you PM one of the Admins they can set this up with it's own subsection and make it a sticky like with the other leagues.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 15 Jun 2011, 4:28 pm

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 15 Jun 2011, 4:31 pm

LDCPete wrote:Can I just make a bit of a suggestion around transfers.

If you have 10 teams each trying to sign 25 players that is 250 players and it is going to become messy and complicated and a bit of a free for all.

It may make sense to have some sort of draft/pick system making it fair for all.

agree with this - think that people should take it in turns to pick once all the managers have been allocated - at least maybe up to the first 15 then after that maybe have a transfer/foriegns bid start?

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 15 Jun 2011, 4:32 pm

of course randomise the teams to see which order it goes in . . .

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Jun 2011, 4:40 pm

Doing a draft is simple enough in any case. Just number the teams one to 10 and then people get to select in the following order and repeat as many times as is necessary.

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What you could do is do 15 rounds and make round 1 loosehead, 2 hooker, 3 tighthead etc etc up until a full 15 and then open transfers for people fill out the rest of their squads.

Just a suggestion.
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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 15 Jun 2011, 4:52 pm

^^^ perfect pete . . . think you should just let people pick any positions - might that way even if you don't go first you still have a chance to pick top quality early on . . . just a thought . . .

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 15 Jun 2011, 5:13 pm

I have made a suggestion on the rules page, can I get your thoughts on it please guys.
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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 15 Jun 2011, 5:19 pm

think letting managers pick in turn from any position is the way forward!!

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 15 Jun 2011, 5:25 pm

Pete is think your idea is best, I will do it that way mate.

Draft might be the best way, if we get a full set of 10 I will randomise the managers/teams then whoever gets the top pick gets to pick a loosehead prop first, then so on.

When round one finishes of loosehead props, then I will randomise again and move onto hookers, whoever comes out to pick first they pick there hooker then manager number 2 picks and so on until we complete a full 15 starting line up finishing with Full-Backs.

It's better doing 15 rounds, and randomising the managers all the time, so it's fair that if somebody ended up with the final pick in Round 1 - Loosehead Prop, they might get randomised to pick first, second or third when it comes to Hookers.

How does that sound?
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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 15 Jun 2011, 5:26 pm

you see this is why I think allowing people to pick any position is better, you can still continue to pick quality throughout each turn . . . I wouldn't just stick to making people pick from 1 position . . .

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 15 Jun 2011, 5:27 pm

but I am open to what ever is decided . .. Smile laters!

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 15 Jun 2011, 5:36 pm

It's better doing it Pete's way banafan-aka-hon.

Picking players in any position is a bit stupid you could just choose to decide to buy 5 flankers, 3 wingers, 5 centres, when a scuture of picking a loosehead first then hooker, then tighthead and so on works out better.

Then after you get your 15 players, I will open the foreigns so you can buy another 10 players in any position you want.

Think thats the best way lads.

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 15 Jun 2011, 5:44 pm

For everyone who has joined, please can you give me a team name and get a link in for your side.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Jun 2011, 5:54 pm

Bear, there is a way of making the picks even fairer. I am on my phone at tje mo so will post fully layer when on comp.
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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 15 Jun 2011, 5:56 pm

Ok fire away when you are on the comp, but your first idea is the one im the most happy with at the moment.

Think I will stick with that.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Jun 2011, 5:57 pm

It's just a minor tweak to it.
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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 15 Jun 2011, 6:00 pm

Alright, just fire away with the idea when you can get on a comp of some sort Ok!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 15 Jun 2011, 6:02 pm

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 15 Jun 2011, 6:08 pm

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 15 Jun 2011, 8:49 pm

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Can you choose yourself a team name please guys.

Still have three vacancies looking at other games fingers crossed inthefastlane, pullthestrings, prop_lyd and fluxy are interested.

If not I might have to cut it down to 8 managers.
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Post by CJB Wed 15 Jun 2011, 9:16 pm

I'm in. Do a draft like the NBA??

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Jun 2011, 9:19 pm

Ok, so here is my thoughts around the draft picks. The system that I proposed is slightly unfair as it means that some people will never get first pick whereas two teams will rotate first pick on each round. Randomising it could also throw up similarly unfair scenarios, so here is the only way to do it to make it fair.

Rounds One and Eleven (Loosehead Prop and Winger)

Team 1
Team 2
Team 3
Team 4
Team 5
Team 6
Team 7
Team 8
Team 9
Team 10

Rounds Two and Twelve (Hooker and Inside Centre)

Team 2
Team 3
Team 4
Team 5
Team 6
Team 7
Team 8
Team 9
Team 10
Team 1

Rounds Three and Thirteen (Tighthead Prop and Outside Centre)

Team 3
Team 4
Team 5
Team 6
Team 7
Team 8
Team 9
Team 10
Team 1
Team 2

Rounds Four and Fourteen (Lock and Winger)

Team 4
Team 5
Team 6
Team 7
Team 8
Team 9
Team 10
Team 1
Team 2
Team 3

Rounds Five and Fifteen (Lock and Full Back)

Team 5
Team 6
Team 7
Team 8
Team 9
Team 10
Team 1
Team 2
Team 3
Team 4

Rounds Six and Sixteen (Blindside and Scrum Half)

Team 6
Team 7
Team 8
Team 9
Team 10
Team 1
Team 2
Team 3
Team 4
Team 5

Rounds Seven and Seventeen (Openside and Prop)

Team 7
Team 8
Team 9
Team 10
Team 1
Team 2
Team 3
Team 4
Team 5
Team 6

Rounds Eight and Eighteen (No8 and Hooker)

Team 8
Team 9
Team 10
Team 1
Team 2
Team 3
Team 4
Team 5
Team 6
Team 7

Rounds Nine and Nineteen (Scrum Half and Free Choice)

Team 9
Team 10
Team 1
Team 2
Team 3
Team 4
Team 5
Team 6
Team 7
Team 8

Rounds Ten and Twenty (Outside half and Free Choice)

Team 10
Team 1
Team 2
Team 3
Team 4
Team 5
Team 6
Team 7
Team 8
Team 9

This way every team gets to pick 1st twice, 2nd twice, 3rd twice etc etc. Rounds 16-20 give you an extra prop, hooker and scrum half which every bench needs as well as 2 free choices.

Then open up the transfers for the final 5 players in everyone's squads.

It is the only way I can see of making the draft fair.

Let me know what you think?

Will get a team name thought up now.
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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 15 Jun 2011, 9:25 pm

Interesting Pete, that sounds pretty good plus you have set it out aswell which makes it less complicated.

That is very fair if you ask me, we keep changing the set up but im going to go with the above.

Looks and sounds completely right.

Nice one, two more managers needed team names and links then hopefully we can get cracking at the weekend or monday.
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Post by CJB Wed 15 Jun 2011, 9:34 pm

I like Pete's idea!

Are there gonna be any tactics, advantage to little teams.

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 15 Jun 2011, 10:21 pm

I doubt there will be little teams, every side will have very good players.

I have set up a fixture page, every side will play each other twice but I will put them fixtures down on another page at a later date if this game does go well.

If I do decide to do tactics I wouldn't want you to write much, points would be easier and better for myself and most of you guys.

2 more vacancies, plus team names in please.

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Post by CJB Wed 15 Jun 2011, 10:34 pm

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Jun 2011, 10:54 pm

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 15 Jun 2011, 11:22 pm

right am back. what did I miss Smile
am cool with the process above. when donwe start?

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 15 Jun 2011, 11:28 pm

nice play on words there pull!

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 15 Jun 2011, 11:35 pm

right how do you want us to creTe our team pages ?! donwe make another topic in the legue main page?

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 15 Jun 2011, 11:45 pm

question at the draft stage does a player cost us cash?

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 15 Jun 2011, 11:58 pm

question at the draft stage does a player cost us cash?

Good question, what does everyone want to do on that basis, will each draft player cost you money?

Thoughts on that please

Also please get a link in asap, and yes make a new topic on the league's main page. Set it out as you would normally do but of course you don't have any players yet, but just mark out props, hookers, locks, flankers and so on. Also if possible put a link up on your teams page, directing to the homepage.

I would be looking to start the draft at the weekend or Monday, when the draft is finished I will open domestic and foreign transfers at the same time. First set of fixtures if everything goes according to plan, should start by the end of this month.

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Thu 16 Jun 2011, 12:14 am

don't think draft should cost us Smile

have added my team page as a topcoat was that right?

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Post by GloucesterBear Thu 16 Jun 2011, 12:20 am

Will have a look in a sec banafan-aka-hon. I have three points that between us need deciding on.

1.Should the draft cost us money?

2.If the draft doesn't cost us any money, should I drop the budgets down to £200 for everyone?

3.Should I stick with 1980's players, because like we discussed before for the younger one's it might prove difficult, the 1990's and 2000's era's would be better equipped for all of us, plus you can buy whatever player you want so you will have a wide range of players to choose from, from both era's.

What shall I do on the above points guys?
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Post by GloucesterBear Thu 16 Jun 2011, 12:26 am

Sorted banafan-aka-hon.

Super stuff, but the link on your page could you direct it to this page

https://www.606v2.com/t7149-rugby-union-legends-game

Instead of the proper homepage with the topics on and stuff.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 16 Jun 2011, 7:00 am

GloucesterBear wrote:Will have a look in a sec banafan-aka-hon. I have three points that between us need deciding on.

1.Should the draft cost us money?

2.If the draft doesn't cost us any money, should I drop the budgets down to £200 for everyone?

3.Should I stick with 1980's players, because like we discussed before for the younger one's it might prove difficult, the 1990's and 2000's era's would be better equipped for all of us, plus you can buy whatever player you want so you will have a wide range of players to choose from, from both era's.

What shall I do on the above points guys?


1. No, the draft should not cost money, it should be a free pick.

2. Drop the budgets to £100 million for everyone. Teams only need to 'buy' 5 players and as you have said you would only charge £20million top whack for a player this is easily attainable within this figure. what it will also mean is that people will have to think long and hard about getting into bidding wars over individual players and going up to £30-40million on an individual, thereby bring an bit of skill and judgement to the game.

3. I would say stick with 80's players as well as it opens up the player pool a bit more, but is a risk and adds an extra element to the game as if people go for players from the early 80's and the younger guys haven't heard of them it could have an influence on predictions so again is a judgement call for people and brings a bit of skill to proceedings.
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Post by pullthestrings Thu 16 Jun 2011, 9:21 am

Will there be a select list of players or will managers have to think of players when it is their go?

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