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Haye vs Klitschko Build Up Thread
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Scottrf- Posts : 14359
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If he beats Wlad I dont see how he could possibly turn down a fight with big brother. They will throw an awful lot of money at him.
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Hagler turned down a rematch with Leonard....
depends on the individual and whether he loves the sport or not.....
Mike Spinks hated it..Ali loved it..
Not sure in which camp Haye is in...
certainly won't need the bucks..
depends on the individual and whether he loves the sport or not.....
Mike Spinks hated it..Ali loved it..
Not sure in which camp Haye is in...
certainly won't need the bucks..
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Wlad - "David Haye is a wannabe" Yes, as is everyone else who fights for the title, they waana be the Champion.
"He talked himself into the fight, I dunno how but he did it" Erm, by getting you so riled up you were willing to let him jump the queue. Well done!
Haye definitely under Wlad's skin now. Whilst I agree with Rodders that it's somewhat tawdry viewing on accasion, sometimes you don't need guile and subtley too wage the psychological war.
Even the little tricks like Haye interupting him worked a treat. Wlad likes to have things controlled, in and out of the ring. Haye's already taken away that element. Wlad doesn't like it.
"He talked himself into the fight, I dunno how but he did it" Erm, by getting you so riled up you were willing to let him jump the queue. Well done!
Haye definitely under Wlad's skin now. Whilst I agree with Rodders that it's somewhat tawdry viewing on accasion, sometimes you don't need guile and subtley too wage the psychological war.
Even the little tricks like Haye interupting him worked a treat. Wlad likes to have things controlled, in and out of the ring. Haye's already taken away that element. Wlad doesn't like it.
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Wont need the money, but I would imagine millions are hard to turn away from. He could do one of those fake retirements and watch how Vit performs vs Adamek. Hes got to get old at some point (you could say he's already on his way.)
I personally dont think Haye will get past Wlad anyway, in which case I think he will retire.
I personally dont think Haye will get past Wlad anyway, in which case I think he will retire.
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All Haye has to do now is mention that he bumped into Hayden Pantyhair and her new chap, and that the new fella's a really, REALLY sound bloke... That usually boils the blood.
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Have a good weekend all
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Have a good one
My odds for bans this weekend are:
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Dave667: 2/1
Rowley: 5/1
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Windy: 100/1
Have a good one
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You honestly think you can gain an edge with words in a fight as big as this......
He'll be under vlad's skin so much..Vlad will probably have 110% focus and fight the fight of his life........
Honeyghan got under Starling's skin before the fight too...
He'll be under vlad's skin so much..Vlad will probably have 110% focus and fight the fight of his life........
Honeyghan got under Starling's skin before the fight too...
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Coxy I'm offended my conduct of late has been impeccable. I even made an attempt to steer folk on the path to righteousness earlier
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Thing is Joey that the one dimensional sanders blew him away...and Haye is a better fighter than him...
It's a hard one to call...
It's a hard one to call...
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I believe that's simply a ruse to bump up the price for a fight with Vitali. In one of my rare "talking about boxing" moments I said that if Haye wins, he'll retire thus drumming up massive interest in him facing Vitali. Vitali's defining fight is still his loss to Lewis. He needs a big fight on his CV too and I think this will ensure Haye is offfered a huge amount of money to come out of retirement, which I believe is Haye's plan anyway.TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Motivation....He's said it might be his last fight!!
Remember Spinks-Tyson...
Whilst it might not be a big issue....it's still a worry..big payday..make sure I'm around to spend it etc....
Make 'em think I'm only doing it for the money, lull them into a false sense of security and take 'em to the cleaners. he did it with Warren and Enzo and he'll try do it with Vitali
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I'll have a hundred bucks on windy...so old he could go senile and lose the plot...
Be able to pay the father-in-law back with the winnings
Be able to pay the father-in-law back with the winnings
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Thing is Joey that the one dimensional sanders blew him away...
In 2003...before Haye lost to Thompson.
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Only ever seen two fights won at a press conference.....Bowe vs Donald..when he got clumped and lost his bottle and.... Tate - Olajide when he said he was going to hunt Olajide down and then did the complete opposite...
Vlad is too mature to be taken off his gameplan..
Vlad is too mature to be taken off his gameplan..
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'll have a hundred bucks on windy...so old he could go senile and lose the plot...
Be able to pay the father-in-law back with the winnings
Maybe I'll fake a meltdown just for you, Truss.
We'll get the old sod off your back.
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Haye blew himself out against Thompson.....
Vlad got battered....
big difference..
Vlad got battered....
big difference..
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No need... I'm sure oxring will be along in a minute...
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Haye blew himself out against Thompson.....
Vlad got battered....
big difference..
True, just saying Wlad has learnt and changed a lot since then.
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Agree that Haye could get him out of there Truss, but Sanders was a fairly long time ago now. I think Wlads safety first approach will be enough to weather the early storm.
Interesting fight though, and can definitely go either way.
Rowley will never get banned, far too crafty.
Interesting fight though, and can definitely go either way.
Rowley will never get banned, far too crafty.
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Coxy, I've made two boxing related comments in a row, course you mouthing off has ballsed that up but I forgive you.
Look at Wlad's face in that Kellerman interview, if Haye hasn't got under his skin, Wlad deserves an Oscar...and we know he's not that good an actor. The man was so angry he was literallly lost for words. No way he maintains that composure in the ring whilst being buzzed with punches. As always happens, when an opponent comes forward, Wlad goes to pieces.
The only reason Wlad "fights the fight of his life" is because Haye takes it to him. Watch them both in action when it comes to out and out aggression. Haye is a born fighter and if it came down to the point where they both have to got to the trenches, I'm picking Haye. He wants this more than Wlad does.
Wlad seems to view Haye's confidence as fear-masking bravado. Seems he's the one putting on a brave face. "You talk too much because you are scared" Nope, it' s because Haye knows he can beat him.
Look at Wlad's face in that Kellerman interview, if Haye hasn't got under his skin, Wlad deserves an Oscar...and we know he's not that good an actor. The man was so angry he was literallly lost for words. No way he maintains that composure in the ring whilst being buzzed with punches. As always happens, when an opponent comes forward, Wlad goes to pieces.
The only reason Wlad "fights the fight of his life" is because Haye takes it to him. Watch them both in action when it comes to out and out aggression. Haye is a born fighter and if it came down to the point where they both have to got to the trenches, I'm picking Haye. He wants this more than Wlad does.
Wlad seems to view Haye's confidence as fear-masking bravado. Seems he's the one putting on a brave face. "You talk too much because you are scared" Nope, it' s because Haye knows he can beat him.
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Think it is misleading to keep bringing up Brewster and Thompson, they were a long time ago. Fighters can improve. Made the point earlier were this not the case there is no chance a fighter who got put on dream street by Willie Limond could take heavy shots of Maidana and get through but Khan did just that. Fighters learn from mistakes and tailor their styles to suit their strengths/protect their weaknesses. Wlad has done just this and whilst the losses obviously suggest his chin is not cast of granite they do not for me suggest he will be bowled over this time.
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Has he learnt ?? Who has he fought like Sanders....
been stiff after stiff after stiff..
been stiff after stiff after stiff..
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Truss, there's been a PM in your inbox since this morning. Could you pick it up, please ?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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What am I on a very final warning now???
Hard to keep up these days..........
Hard to keep up these days..........
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If he fought that version of Sanders in 2011 he would just be another stiff. Even someone like Chambers has fast hands and movement but doesn't get close.TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Has he learnt ?? Who has he fought like Sanders....
been stiff after stiff after stiff..
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What am I on a very final warning now???
Hard to keep up these days..........
Well, why don't you read it to find out ? Just an idea.
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Have you seen the Sanders fight...he took him apart......
It's just a fanciful statement that Scott...
It's just a fanciful statement that Scott...
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Scottrf wrote:If he fought that version of Sanders in 2011 he would just be another stiff. Even someone like Chambers has fast hands and movement but doesn't get close.TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Has he learnt ?? Who has he fought like Sanders....
been stiff after stiff after stiff..
Chambers cant punch anywhere near as hard as Sanders.
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But he didn't land so that's not important.The genius of PBF wrote:Scottrf wrote:If he fought that version of Sanders in 2011 he would just be another stiff. Even someone like Chambers has fast hands and movement but doesn't get close.TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Has he learnt ?? Who has he fought like Sanders....
been stiff after stiff after stiff..
Chambers cant punch anywhere near as hard as Sanders.
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Good point....pbf.
Read your message Windy and it's all cool...
as it's always been.
Read your message Windy and it's all cool...
as it's always been.
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joeyjojo618 wrote:Agree that Haye could get him out of there Truss, but Sanders was a fairly long time ago now. I think Wlads safety first approach will be enough to weather the early storm.Interesting fight though, and can definitely go either way.
Rowley will never get banned, far too crafty.
What if there isn't one and Haye turns it on late in the fight? What if Wlad's waiting six rounds for an onslaught that doesn't come. Will he be able to adapt to that. Look at Degale against Groves. He spent so much of the fight waiting for Groves to go on the offensive and was outboxed, he didn't know whether to sh*t or go blind.
Many have said Wlad will fight a different way...he only knows how to fight one way. Haye's shown he can fight a number of ways. No way on God's green earth Wlad charges out like a bull at the gate. He'll stick with what he knows and hope it's good enough.
Like Haye said, if Wlad could have found sparring partners who could adequately replicate Haye's style, they would have knocked him out by now!
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Finally watched the whole 12 minute face off video. Interesting. Wlad definitely seemed rattled, and his sense of humour's about as funny as cot death, but same time Haye is clearly looking to rule Wlad and elicit a response. Whether he achieves this come July 2nd, we'll have to wait and see. It was interesting to see how Wlad faltered a little when Haye interrupted and was being disrespectful.
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Scottrf wrote:But he didn't land so that's not important.The genius of PBF wrote:Scottrf wrote:If he fought that version of Sanders in 2011 he would just be another stiff. Even someone like Chambers has fast hands and movement but doesn't get close.TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Has he learnt ?? Who has he fought like Sanders....
been stiff after stiff after stiff..
Chambers cant punch anywhere near as hard as Sanders.
Do you think Wlad would throw as many punches against Sanders like he did to Chambers which played a part as he tasted Wlad's power? Wlad would be worried about getting hit. Sanders has a better chin, the southpaw stance, quicker hand speed than Chambers and hits way harder. This is a guy that also shook the granite chin Vitali up. Sanders 2003 vs Wlad 2011, I see a similar scenario of the first fight except Wlad might last a few rounds longer.
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If Haye doesnt get to Wlad early and disrupt his game plan I can only see it going one way; constant jabs wearing Haye down ending in a late stoppage. He has to get him rattled early.
In my opinion Haye has neither the output or the engine to come on strong later in the fight Dave.
In my opinion Haye has neither the output or the engine to come on strong later in the fight Dave.
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So you're still convinced that Wlad's jab is as effective against someone who possesses the speed and movement of Haye as it does against the Sam Peter's of this world?
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I think the jab will be sufficiently effective. Haye ate a number of jabs against Ruiz.
I dont think Haye is quite as elusive as people are making out.
I dont think Haye is quite as elusive as people are making out.
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Right off home for the weekend, have a good weekend and come on Rhodes
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Haye may not be as elusive as he likes people to think he is, but it's worth remembering he didn't spar properly for the Ruiz fight, for what it's worth.
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rowley wrote:Right off home for the weekend, have a good weekend and come on Rhodes
I'll certainly try to have a good weekend but I am NOT gonna do the other thing!
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Loved the HBO Face-OFF. Very interesting. Wlad started well but faded badly. He was struggling for words at the end, as he looking genuinely annoyed and frustrated.
Haye is on Alan Carr's program later - I hope he gives that annoying guy a slap.
Haye is on Alan Carr's program later - I hope he gives that annoying guy a slap.
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WelshDevilRob wrote:Loved the HBO Face-OFF. Very interesting. Wlad started well but faded badly. He was struggling for words at the end, as he looking genuinely annoyed and frustrated.
Haye is on Alan Carr's program later - I hope he gives that annoying guy a slap.
I dont think Alan Carr has got it in him to give Haye a slap though
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Haye came across alright, but then you'd expect him to. Jonathon Ross is still a t**t though.
I've just been re-watching some bits of the Wlad-Chambers fight. Can't help but think that if Wlad's faced with a lot of movement he's gonna be laid out. Chambers has pretty fast hands but he still moves pretty flat-footed and presented a faulty immobile, covered-up target. If Haye can give Wlad plenty of angles to worry about I really am thinking the big man could be out of there. I'm just not overly impressed by Wlad. Come July 3rd I may well be eating humble pie but AT THIS INSTANT IN TIME I'm leaning toward a Haye win by KO/TKO. Ask me again in ten minutes...I may say otherwise.
I've just been re-watching some bits of the Wlad-Chambers fight. Can't help but think that if Wlad's faced with a lot of movement he's gonna be laid out. Chambers has pretty fast hands but he still moves pretty flat-footed and presented a faulty immobile, covered-up target. If Haye can give Wlad plenty of angles to worry about I really am thinking the big man could be out of there. I'm just not overly impressed by Wlad. Come July 3rd I may well be eating humble pie but AT THIS INSTANT IN TIME I'm leaning toward a Haye win by KO/TKO. Ask me again in ten minutes...I may say otherwise.
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I've watched the Face-off vid a few times and can't establish whether:
1. Haye annoys Wlad sooooo much that he's lost for words
2. Wlad is genuinely shaken by how psyched Haye is for this fight
Watch his face when Haye talks about taking his and his brothers head off, look at his eyes, theres a look of both anger and worry there.
1. Haye annoys Wlad sooooo much that he's lost for words
2. Wlad is genuinely shaken by how psyched Haye is for this fight
Watch his face when Haye talks about taking his and his brothers head off, look at his eyes, theres a look of both anger and worry there.
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I think Wlad's trying to look the bigger man, but he seemed genuinely lost for words at times, leading me to think he's been acting from a script that doesn't come naturally to him. If that makes sense.
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Yeah it makes perfect sense, especially when he was calling Haye a wannabe etc, but the one subject I would have expected him to have a real answer to would have been Haye ambition to "take both of their heads" the best Wlad could come up with was "just shut up'.
Haye has definatly won the war of words, I just hope to see him do the job on July 2nd!
Haye has definatly won the war of words, I just hope to see him do the job on July 2nd!
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You cheer on murray because he's not English as you well know....
Good try though.
Good try though.
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You cheer on murray because he's not English as you well know....
Good try though.
Who?
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On the HBO face off vlad definitely looks affected by Haye's shenanigans. Will be interesting to see how this affects him in the fight.
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'ello, 'ello,
Good Luck Wladimir,
We salute your intelligence, class, patience and fortitude.
We thank you for your humanitarian work.
Britain is with you my son.
We appreciate that it must not be easy to conduct interviews in a foreign tongue (perhaps your 3rd or even 4rth language), even whilst others ridicule your accent.
You are a GOOD, classy individual.
All the success in the world buddy.
Hope you knock out that brash, arrogant, rude, classless, distasteful, cocky, other fella.
Your fan,
emancipator - may the KO be with you
Good Luck Wladimir,
We salute your intelligence, class, patience and fortitude.
We thank you for your humanitarian work.
Britain is with you my son.
We appreciate that it must not be easy to conduct interviews in a foreign tongue (perhaps your 3rd or even 4rth language), even whilst others ridicule your accent.
You are a GOOD, classy individual.
All the success in the world buddy.
Hope you knock out that brash, arrogant, rude, classless, distasteful, cocky, other fella.
Your fan,
emancipator - may the KO be with you
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It's good to have an opinion.....
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emancipator wrote:'ello, 'ello,
Good Luck Wladimir,
We salute your intelligence, class, patience and fortitude.
We thank you for your humanitarian work.
Britain is with you my son.
We appreciate that it must not be easy to conduct interviews in a foreign tongue (perhaps your 3rd or even 4rth language), even whilst others ridicule your accent.
You are a GOOD, classy individual.
All the success in the world buddy.
Hope you knock out that brash, arrogant, rude, classless, distasteful, cocky, other fella.
Your fan,
emancipator - may the KO be with you
Perhaps davidemoore didn't top himself after all.
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