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Post by Driver Mon 08 Aug 2011, 4:25 pm

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Post by Guest Sat 27 Aug 2011, 11:48 am

Did not expect this

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Post by Guest Sat 27 Aug 2011, 11:51 am

Aussies look like they are going to score every time they get the ball. To be fair to thomson he is injured which probably explains his performace

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 27 Aug 2011, 11:53 am

The last AB's game before the world cup is the first time they've really looked vunerable. Still 40 mins to go but Oz have been brilliant.

Not one Oz player is playing badly, not one NZ player is playing at there normal level besides perhaps Conrad

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Post by Guest Sat 27 Aug 2011, 11:54 am

Much prefer AAc on the Wing. He is having a great game

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 27 Aug 2011, 11:55 am

AAC vs Guildford so one sided.

Wonder what Gear/Sivi watching this think...

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 27 Aug 2011, 11:56 am

Weepu AB best player.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 27 Aug 2011, 11:57 am

This side has a better balance with AAC on the wing. When you have Cooper, Genia, Beale etc you don't necessarily creation in the centres Everyone of them is disposable if they aren't playing well.

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Post by Guest Sat 27 Aug 2011, 12:03 pm

Guildford like quite a few ab's having a mare. Weepus service has been all over the place. Nz to have a much better second half I reckon

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 27 Aug 2011, 12:07 pm

Vickerman giving Oz and edge they don't get with the Horwill Sharpe combo.

Some tough decisions for deans to make providing Oz don't crumble

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Post by Guest Sat 27 Aug 2011, 12:16 pm

Vito has really made a difference

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Post by Driver Sat 27 Aug 2011, 12:20 pm

Great hands - All Blacks back to basics
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 27 Aug 2011, 12:29 pm

AB's have just stopped Oz. Should be a great last 20.

As I type this Will genia produces something from nothing

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Post by Guest Sat 27 Aug 2011, 12:46 pm

Guildford has a mare replaced by tooeava who also has a mare. Shows how good AAc has been

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 27 Aug 2011, 12:53 pm

Oz deserved winners. The only team who won away from home won the 3N.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 27 Aug 2011, 2:10 pm

Sounds like a thriller and bit of a game of two halfs. Some serious injury worries for AB's in Read, McCaw, Thompson.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 27 Aug 2011, 2:20 pm

NZ only really turned up for 30 mins and even then they weren't great were just clinical. Carter had a nightmare 1st half.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 27 Aug 2011, 2:33 pm

Not watched the game but read Cooper was equally bad 2nd? Missed tackles and disappeared for most of 40?!?! About right or way off?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 27 Aug 2011, 2:50 pm

Pooly

Whoever wrote that didn't watch the game properly. He missed two tricky kicks at goal but that was all he did wrong. If Cooper had of played like Carter in the first half then everybody would mention it for a long time to come.

Cooper could well be cited though, naughty knee on Mccaw (if it was deliberate)

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 27 Aug 2011, 5:11 pm

It was a NZ site so was a bit dubious. Cooper is a bit of a prat to be fair, seems to dislike McCaw, I imagine McCaw will lay him out one day. What was England game score, performance like?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 27 Aug 2011, 5:19 pm

won 20 - 9

No idea what happened apart from Tuilagi scored England's first.

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Post by stnick88 Sat 27 Aug 2011, 5:51 pm

Tuilagi got the first and Armitage the second. Didnt see the game though...who played well?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 27 Aug 2011, 5:58 pm

That's a cracking result without knowing how we played, albeit against a weakend Ireland side. Teach them not to play SOB!

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Post by Driver Sat 27 Aug 2011, 7:03 pm

Was a great team performance. Centres look some combo
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 27 Aug 2011, 7:46 pm

David Wallace out of the world cup

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 27 Aug 2011, 9:06 pm

Looking forward to seeing the game, did Simpson get on?

I'm about for a little bit of dealing if anybody on, most within reason available. Stuck in hotel for 24hrs with hurracain Sad

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 27 Aug 2011, 10:07 pm

Simpson didn't. Watching game now. Tuilagi is a good try and apparently him and Tindall worked well in midfield.

Fourie and Cueto went off injured but don't think they are serious. Neither is easter's by the sound of it.

England scrum good, haskell good on front foot after 20 mins

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 27 Aug 2011, 10:09 pm

According to telegraph ratings (only ones i can find) Tuilagi was a 9 out of 10 with tindall, croft and haskell as 8's.

Lawes foden and ashton struggled with 4, 5 and 6 respectively

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Post by 'Arry Sun 28 Aug 2011, 11:06 am

Alright lads, cheers for all the congrats messages I'm absolutely chuffed with how I did!

Will get round to answer messages soon, am on the lookout for a creative centre.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 28 Aug 2011, 2:41 pm

Surprised you werent all watching the England game yesterday.

Pack was very good - not sure how Lawes got a score of 4 in the Telegraph, was great in the lineout, he got a 7 in the Times and few other papers gave him that score too.

Problem with our whole back three is that we dont involve them enough, we dont seem to have a backmove where we bring Foden in to the game - only chance he gets is if its kicked to him and its run back. Trouble was the conditions were awful and back three were only really able to defend, which they all did very well - Armitage the pick.

Tindall and Tuilagi worked superbly - very cleverly done. For those who didnt watch it, Tindall lined up at 12 in attack and then moved to 13 in defence, and marshalled Tuilagi brilliantly. Was best game I've seen Tindall play in 3-4 years! Tuilagi was a one man battering ram.

Haskell has to start at no8 ahead of Easter now, I really hope that he does.

After these games I can see the England team being:

1. Sheridan
2. Hartley/Thompson - depending on weather
3. Cole / Stevens - Cole isnt offering anything in the loose.
4. Palmer
5. Lawes
6. Croft
7. Moody
8. Haskell
9. Youngs
10. Wilkinson
11. Cueto
12. Tindall
13. Tuilagi
14. Ashton
15. Foden

Bench should be Hartley, Stevens, Shaw, Wood/Easter, Wigglesworth, Flood, Armitage.

Was looking back at 2007 WC squad and this one is so, so much better in every area

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Post by Guest Sun 28 Aug 2011, 4:48 pm

Just watched the game. Cole offered very little and Stevens must be close. Trimble and ferris had good games and poc Ireland's man of the match.

Tuilagi and tindall worked well. On attack tindall played 12 but he was 13 on defence. Wilkinsons kicking is so short these days. He has lost all the distance but would still be my ten. Haskell mom for me. Sheridan had a big game and wiggles went well

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 28 Aug 2011, 11:01 pm

Anyone see Dan Ward-Smith is calling it a day having failed to recover from the back injury to picked up towards the end of last season?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 29 Aug 2011, 12:16 pm

Thats a shame but it bring on a point I have been thinking about.

When players retire now there is no compensation available for them, so I feel that if a player does a Thompson and returns from retirement then the team who he was with before he retires in this game should have him back for free should he return.

so if DWS returns next season he is Arry's automatically.

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Post by Driver Mon 29 Aug 2011, 4:00 pm

It's a an interesting idea Steve. I'll have a think about it over the week.

England have left Shawsy at home it appears due to illness.


Now for some rules regarding team sheets as promised lol

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1. Teamsheets to be in by close of play (midnight) Thursday

2. Late teamsheets will not be accepted and will result in a default victory (strictly held to)

3. Predictions will be open early Friday morning and run till midday Saturday

4. Once a side is named there is no changing it. It should be each managers responsibility to name a fully eligible side that meets EQ requirements.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 30 Aug 2011, 9:36 am

Am hearing rumours that Tom Rees retirement announcement is imminent also.
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 30 Aug 2011, 9:38 am

Wow. Chris will not be happy!!!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 30 Aug 2011, 9:39 am

I thought he retired about 2 years ago!

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Post by stnick88 Tue 30 Aug 2011, 9:51 am

Dont blame him really!

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Post by prop_lyd Tue 30 Aug 2011, 10:26 am

Need a Hooker and an Openside please guys!
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Post by 'Arry Tue 30 Aug 2011, 10:35 am

Looking for a creative centre guys.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 30 Aug 2011, 10:49 am

Driver

Have just seen that you've included Wallace in your squad for this week and lukes comment and then your reply. Can we have some clarification sooner rather than later please mate as we all need to know where we stand on this.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 30 Aug 2011, 10:54 am

I thought everyone said no-one could be included if injured.

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Post by stnick88 Tue 30 Aug 2011, 10:56 am

thats what i thought the situation was too.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 30 Aug 2011, 10:58 am

LDCPete wrote:Personally the simplest way fo doing it as far as I can see, and the way I would do it if I was still running the game would be this.

1. All players named in squads now are unavailable in this squad until their country is knocked out of the tournament.
2. If a player currently in a squad is injured and returns home they remain unable to play in this game until their country is knocked out.
3. Any player called up as an injury replacement to the World Cup becomes unavailable in tis game until his country is knocked out.

Keeps things simple. There is no confusion about who is available and who is not and everyone knows where they stand.


Thought we had all kind of agreed on this.
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Post by Driver Tue 30 Aug 2011, 11:01 am

CLARIFICATION ON WORLD CUP PLAYERS

1. Injured Players

1A. All players named in squads now are unavailable in this squad until their country is knocked out of the tournament.
1B. If a player currently in a squad is injured and returns home they remain unable to play in this game until their country is knocked out.
1C. Any player called up as an injury replacement to the World Cup becomes unavailable in tis game until his country is knocked out.

2. Players not selected in Matchday 23.

2A. Players who are at the RWC who aren't selected in the match day squad are not available for domestic selection as they are still part of there country's world cup squad.

Hope this clears things up , i'll knock up a RWC rules page to cover everything.

Had a complete mind blank pete and forgot those where the rules we agreed on lol my bad! 50 - 0 wins to everyone to make up for it!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 30 Aug 2011, 12:27 pm

Right, that's my team in for this weeks fixtures bring it on!
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Post by Guest Tue 30 Aug 2011, 1:53 pm

In the market to loan a centre anyone have one going. Could help elsewhere

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 30 Aug 2011, 2:25 pm

Bit of a late flurry of loan transfer activity today I see....

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Post by prop_lyd Tue 30 Aug 2011, 2:28 pm

Should get my team in tomorrow, still hoping for a couple of players!
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 30 Aug 2011, 2:41 pm

Who do people rate higher out of Andy Hazell or Magnus Lund?

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Post by Driver Tue 30 Aug 2011, 2:43 pm

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