Union Cane's Prediction Cup - The Final Result - Winner : alma

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Union Cane's Prediction Cup - Test Event

I'm toying with the idea of running a knockout cup competition alongside the new Premiership / Championship Prediction Leagues, this is just a test event to iron out any potential problems with the stadia and transport network et cetera.

The idea is to use Wednesday Night Fights for the cup competition, this will mean a limited choice and a lot of unheard of fighters, so it might fall flat on its face, but if it doesn't work I'll know not to bother with it when the next season kicks off.

So, I need 16 volunteers for the test event, once we have the 16 I will do the draw and then put the fights up for you to predict.

1. Michaels, Sean
2. Mind the windows Tino.
3. Fists of Fury
4. coxy0001
5. alma
6. Union Cane
7. bhb001
8. Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn
9. The Galveston Giant
10. Il Gialloblu
11. sodhat
12. rowley
13. 6oldenbhoy
14. oxring
15. bellchees
16. JJJohnson

First Round

Michaels, Sean	5
JJJohnson	4
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alma	5
rowley	2
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bhb001	4
Il Gialloblu	0
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Fists of Fury	4
oxring	4
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coxy0001	3
6oldenbhoy	4
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Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn	6
The Galveston Giant	5
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Union Cane	3
sodhat	4
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Mind the windows Tino.	2
bellchees	3

We are heading over to Manila for Round One, an exciting evening of boxing at Eastwood Central Plaza.

1. Lowie Bantigue v. Jeffrey Cerna (12) - Jeffrey Cerna W SD
2. Rodel Quilaton v. Jetro Pabustan (10) - Technical Draw
3. Bobby Concepcion v. Ronnie Rex Dalot (10) - Draw
4. Rennel Flechero v. Jessie Blanca Mabert Paulino (8)
5. Karlo Maguinto v. Armin Columna Edwin Mondala (6)
6. Nino Valenzuela v. Dodoy Alapormina (6) - Nino Valenzuela W MD
7. Macrea Gandiongco v. Mardi Zulita (4) - Macrea Gandiongco W TKO4 (LKO)

Rules and scoring are the same as the Prediction League, if scores are tied there will be a replay using Thursday night's action from Miedzyzdroje, Poland.

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First Round Replay

Fists of Fury	13
oxring	11

Just one replay required, I'm making up the rules as I go along so if there is a further draw then whoever posts their predictions first will go through.

Fights for the replay as follows :

1. Krzysztof Glowacki v. Roman Kracik (10) - Krzysztof Glowacki W TKO9 (LKO)
2. Ismail Teboev v. Robert Swierzbinski (8) - Robert Swierzbinski W UD
3. Lukasz Wawrzyczek v. Steven Kuechler (6) - Lukasz Wawrzyczek W TKO3 (EKO)
4. Krzysztof Chudecki v. Marcen Gierke (4) - Krzysztof Chudecki W UD
5. Daniel Urbanski v. Sebastian Skrzypczynski (4) - Sebastian Skrzypczynski W TKO3 (LKO)

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Quarter-Finals

Michaels, Sean	1
alma	6
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bhb001	4
Fists of Fury	3
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6oldenbhoy	1
Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn	5
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sodhat	4
bellchees	3

Struggling for fights for this Wednesday's Quarter-Finals, the only action on offer is a four fight card at the Basaten Youth Center Maadi, Cairo, Egypt. The most experienced of the fighters is Hany Atiyo, this will be his tenth professional contest.

1. Hany Atiyo v. Mahmoud Suleiman (12) - Hany Atiyo W PTS
2. Atef Mohamed v. Mohamed Izad (10) - Atef Mohamed W RTD9 (LKO)
3. Amuro Atiyo v. Anshraf Samir (10) - Anshraf Samir W TKO5 (EKO)
4. Mohamed Gaabary v. Omar Magdy Mohamed (6)

No replays required this week!

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Semi-Finals

alma	16
bhb001	13
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Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn	0
sodhat	20

We're off to Australia and Japan for the Semi Finals, could you please get those predictions in by 17:00 on Tuesday next week.

1. Jamie Pittman v. Serge Yannick (12) - Serge Yannick W TKO2 (EKO)
2. Daniel Geale v. Eromosele Albert (12) - Daniel Geale W UD
3. Reynaldo Belandres v. Joel Brunker (8) - Joel Brunker W UD
4. Steve Heremaia v. Steve Maxwell (6)
5. Mostyn Niemann v. Rhys King (6) - Mostyn Niemann W TKO2 (EKO)
6. Gary Brown v. Steve Lovett (4) - Steve Lovett W TKO2 (EKO)
7. Koki Kameda v. David De la Mora (12) - Koki Kameda W UD
8. Hugo Fidel Cazares v. Tomonobu Shimizu (12) - Tomonobu Shimizu W SD
9. Hiroshi Nakamori v. Takehiro Saito (8) - Hiroshi Nakamori W KO1 (EKO)

Congratulations to our two finalists, some really excellent predicting there and a couple of very respectable scores.

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The Final

alma

versus

sodhat

We are going on a five day trip around the world for The Final, visiting all four corners of the globe.



The fights are as follows :

A - Sunday 4th September - Tanzania
1. Bakari Mohamed v. Ramadhani Shauri (8) - Ramadhani Shauri W PTS
2. Herman Richard v. Sadat Miyeyusho (4)
3. Issa Omari v. Kade Hamis (4) - Draw
4. Joseph Peter v. Mbwana Ally (4)
5. Mwaite Juma v. Franky Purry (4) - Mwaite Juma W PTS
6. Yahya Mkumbukwa v. Shafii Ramadhani (4)

Injury and illness decimated the line up (I should think), and only 3 fights survived, one of which was drawn. Alma scores an impressive 8 points, having predicted both remaining fights would end in decisions, whilst sodhat scores a solitary 1 point for predicting that Shauri would beat Mohamed. That's quite a lead after the first card, has alma got this in the bag already?

alma	8
sodhat	1

B - Monday 5th September - Dominican Republic
7. Vladimir Baez v. Ramon Duran (12)
8. Jean Carlos Prada v. David Toribio (9) - Jean Carlos Prada W TD6 (58-56 / 58-56 / 56-58) SD

alma	9
sodhat	3

C - Tuesday 6th September - Thailand
9. Hongfah Tor Buamas (F) v. Kazumi Izaki (F) (10 x 2) - Hongfah Tor Buamas W UD
10. Teerachai Kratingdaenggym v. Dan Nazareno Jr (12) - Teerachai Kratingdaenggym W UD

Both finalists getting both fights spot on, 8 points each.

alma	17
sodhat	11

D - Wednesday 7th September - Japan
11. Akihiro Kondo v. Masayoshi Kotake (8) - Draw

Nobody picked the draw, scores remain the same going into the big finale...

alma	17
sodhat	11

E - Thursday 8th September - Panama
12. Chanttall Martinez (F) v. Marylin Hernandez (F) (10 x 2) - Chanttall Martinez W UD
13. Vicente Mosquera v. Loel Barrantes (8) - Vicente Mosquera W TKO5 (LKO)
14. Irving Berry v. Miguel Aguilar (8)
15. Manuel Vides v. Humberto Pena (8) - Manuel Vides W UD
16. Rolando Giono v. Javier Coronado (8) - Rolando Giono W SD
17. Jenifel Vicente v. Adolfo Ramos (6)
18. Addir Sanchez v. Daniel Mulgrave (6) - Addir Sanchez W UD

Some excellent predicting again in the final card of fights, alma adding 17 points to his score and sodhat adding 15.

Final Result

alma	34
sodhat	26

Congratulations to the Union Cane's Prediction Cup Winner, alma!

oxring wrote:I'm hedging my bets. 2 and 3 are the middle 2 of a 4 round fight, ergo statistically twice as likely for a stoppage as in 1 or 4. 1 has to be early and 4 late.

Unless we're being really complicated and saying that until 1 minute of the second round - its early...'

Anyway. As far as I'm concerned - any stoppage in less than 4 rounds is a quick stoppage - even if the fight was only scheduled for.

just because your name is in blue, it doesn't give you the right to manipulate the rules to your liking.

Where did you get all this "mid" nonsense from?

It's either Early or Late, with Early being the first half of the fight and Late being the second half.

To be honest, I thought I'd made that clear when I said "If you predict Early (first half) or Late (second half) for your TKO's you could get even more points" but perhaps I didn't make it clear enough.

An all Belfast Quarterfinal between myself and Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn must surely be the tie of the round. May the best man win.

Glowacki LKO
Swierzbinski UD
Wawrzyczek UD
Chudecki UD
Urbanski UD

Union Cane wrote:Where did you get all this "mid" nonsense from?

It's either Early or Late, with Early being the first half of the fight and Late being the second half.

To be honest, I thought I'd made that clear when I said "If you predict Early (first half) or Late (second half) for your TKO's you could get even more points" but perhaps I didn't make it clear enough.

Yeah. Perhaps I should just read your posts first in future.

After a thrilling and high-scoring replay, with both contestants correctly predicting four of the five winners, Fists of Fury is through to the Quarter-Finals having amassed 13 points to oxring's 11.

Tune in next week for the Quarter Finals.

The Quarter-Final fights are now up.

Atiyo, KO, Early
Atef Mohamed, KO, Early
Samir, Pts, UD
Omar Magdy Mohamed, Pts, UD

My knowledge of Eygptian boxing is rusty, so I think dumb luck will take a part in this. I was tempted to put the last one down as a draw! As good a result as any!!

Is everyone else holding on for Thursday's replays?

Hany Atiyo - LKO
Atef Mohamed - EKO
Amuro Atiyo - UD
Omar Magdy Mohamed, UD

Atiyo LKO
Atef Mohamed UD
Samir UD
Omar Magdy Mohamed UD

I'm going to have a long smoke of my Hookah and study the form before I post my predictions

1. Hany Atiyo v. Mahmoud Suleiman - Hany Atiyo EKO
2. Atef Mohamed v. Mohamed Izad - Draw
3. Amuro Atiyo v. Anshraf Samir - Draw
4. Mohamed Gaabary v. Omar Magdy Mohamed - Draw

Mohamed Gaabary has pulled out of his bout with Omar Magdy Mohamed, this fight is now void.

Are you striving for irrelevancy with this or is that a consequence of timing?

Irrelevancy to what? Timing? Eh?

They aren't massive fights.

I know that, but they are the only fights.

This is, after all, a test event, if the fact that the only fights on Wednesdays are of such a poor calibre that nobody is interested then the whole knockout cup midweek tournament idea will be consigned to the bin.

Perhaps, as you say, its a matter of timing and in a few weeks there will be a much wider selection to choose from. We shall see.

Thanks for your continuing support.

Union Cane wrote:I know that, but they are the only fights.

This is, after all, a test event, if the fact that the only fights on Wednesdays are of such a poor calibre that nobody is interested then the whole knockout cup midweek tournament idea will be consigned to the bin.

Perhaps, as you say, its a matter of timing and in a few weeks there will be a much wider selection to choose from. We shall see.

Thanks for your continuing support.

I nearly wet myself with excitement last week. Does help if we can see the results coming in live. perhaps you should plan ahead and rather than do it every week, arrange it for when we have a phillipinno, japanese or australian card? Michaels.

Michaels, Sean wrote:I nearly wet myself with excitement last week. Does help if we can see the results coming in live. perhaps you should plan ahead and rather than do it every week, arrange it for when we have a phillipinno, japanese or australian card? Michaels.

It was a special moment, that's for sure. Problem with that is that if it is running alongside the Prediction Premiership there are only five weeks to play with, and if I'm starting with a round of 32 then the full five weeks are needed to get all the rounds in.

Just been looking ahead, we have both Australian and Japanese cards (provisionally 10 fights in total) for next week's Semi Finals, but for the Grand Final the week after there is only one fight. This idea may be doomed to failure.

There are fights on the Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of the Grand Final week, perhaps I could use them all. Wouldn't that be exciting?

1. Hany Atiyo LKO
2. Atef Mohamed EKO
3. Anshraf Samir LKO

1. Hany Atiyo LKO
2. Atef Mohamed EKO
3. Anshraf Samir UD

Tempted for a couple of draws in there such was the difficulty picking them apart!

Cheers sod.

We're just waiting for our number 1 seed Michaels to predict.

Not a bye, you would need to score at least 1 point.

Union Cane wrote:Not a bye, you would need to score at least 1 point.

Surely if someone doesn't submit a prediction, then their apathy rules them out. Otherwise, you end up with a re-match with someone who isn't going to predict anyway and you continue until you at least get a point (which could be a long time in my case!). Not a criticism of a fun competition run with passion by Union Crane, just an observation!!

You must be pretty hopeless to score 0 points though, if you can't manage a single point you don't deserve to go through.

Union Cane wrote:You must be pretty hopeless to score 0 points though, if you can't manage a single point you don't deserve to go through.

Couldn't agree more.

Sorry! I was hoping you wouldn't see that bit. That Braintree quip still rankles.

Personally i think the word "prediction" should be replaced by the words "total pointless guesswork with no skill involved"

coxy0001 wrote:Personally i think the word "prediction" should be replaced by the words "total pointless guesswork with no skill involved"

Hurt getting knocked out in the first round did it?

coxy0001 wrote:Personally i think the word "prediction" should be replaced by the words "total pointless guesswork with no skill involved"

I don't know why you are so bitter, it's not like you were humiliatingly knocked out in the firs...

Ah, got it.

Just merely stating the obvious that there's zero skill involved.

For instance, you could give a monkey a block to hit for method of victory and the winning fighter and they'd probably fair just as well as the random guess we put out.

As that's all they are, guesses. Unless you've heard of "Atef Mohamed" you're not exactly doing anything other than just guessing.

Don't you know anything about boxing coxy?

Don't you know anything about boxing coxy?

Perhaps this should replace the other predictor league, as i can't see a divisonal ranking system working and it'd also be over inside inside the 2031289 weeks it's currently running for which has probably resulted in many participants not bothering with their predictions as they're already behind.

Scottrf wrote:Don't you know anything about boxing coxy?

Sadly i'm not an avid follower of Egyptian title fights. I'm assuming the winner doesn't get a belt but gets 3 new wives and a camel?

I have never pretended that it is otherwise though have I? This is a test event, a dummy run if you will, not a spit your dummy out run, but like I've said all along, if its a pile of cack I won't do it again.

Its a bit of fun, you're a miserable sod, the two are never going to mix.

Don't know why you entered in the first place.

Still waiting on Michaels, where is he?

1. Hany Atiyo v. Mahmoud Suleiman (12) Atiyo EKO
2. Atef Mohamed v. Mohamed Izad (10) Izad EKO
3. Amuro Atiyo v. Anshraf Samir (10) Atiyo LKO

Love this:

2010-06-10 Hassan Saif debut
Sere El - Kroba Sports Club, Cairo, Egypt NC NC 2 4
referee: Mohamed Zaki | judge: Zead Debes | judge: Mike Chi
The bout was stopped in round 2 because the coaches of both boxers were fighting and throwing water at each other.

Union Cane wrote:You must be pretty hopeless to score 0 points though, if you can't manage a single point you don't deserve to go through.

I'll get me coat

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For instance, you could give a monkey a block to hit for method of victory and the winning fighter and they'd probably fair just as well as the random guess we put out.
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I thought I'd patented that particular method of divination. Got me through teh first round, anywat.

Not long now.

Will anyone else be watching the results come in on boxrec later?

Union Cane wrote:Not long now.

Will anyone else be watching the results come in on boxrec later?

Possibly. Need to finish work, cut and roll a few pitches then get back in time. Glad you avoided the cull Union. This is the highlight of my (working) week.

I had to log off and go do something else, or I reckon I'd have gotten meself culled.

Will there be any water throwing histrionics this evening?

Only LJ that got cut wasn't it?

On topic: Good idea for a thread.

Scottrf wrote:On topic: Good idea for a thread.

Do you mean you have got a good idea for a thread? I could do with one...

Union Cane wrote:
Will there be any water throwing histrionics this evening?

I would love to see footage of that.

Reverse linear most overrated boxer in the world.