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Post by Driver Mon 29 Aug 2011, 4:01 pm

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 03 Sep 2011, 4:20 pm

Will they have these games up on the tasman site you use mate to watch during the week?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 4:30 pm

They have everything mate, seen Aus uni game on a few weeks back

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 03 Sep 2011, 4:37 pm

Will you pm me a link to it again so mate please?! Very Happy

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 03 Sep 2011, 4:41 pm

What was Davies doing there? Rolling Eyes

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 4:43 pm

Did you see Wade's attempt at a catch, going to be along afternoon for the Wasps lads I think.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 03 Sep 2011, 4:49 pm

Wade from what I have seen of him is a faster version of Varndell when he started out... I.e he hates balls in the air and he cant defend!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 03 Sep 2011, 4:53 pm

He's the best thing since sliced bread Wink
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 4:54 pm

Good Wasps move, easy run in for Wade. Lovely hands Bell

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 03 Sep 2011, 4:54 pm

Pete Laugh

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 4:56 pm

Big win for Worcester. Can see Sale fighting it out with us and Worcester for relegation.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 5:01 pm

Wasps getting butchered in the scrum

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 5:11 pm

Wasps have totally turned this round, playing really well. If they can just keep it out of the scrum. Wade is electric but basics are in serious need of work

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 03 Sep 2011, 5:15 pm

Like I said mate Wade is vey similar to Varndell when he 1st came onto the scene. Fantastic athlete but not much in terms of rugby skills yet.

There was alot of new signings in that Sale side today. Will be very disjointed for the first month or so.

Think Worcester could do well. They have alot of very experienced players who know what has to be done at this level. Could do very well in the wet

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 03 Sep 2011, 5:19 pm

Good to see Andy Goode going well today! He gets a rough time but is a pretty good club level flyhalf! Always near the top of the scoring charts where ever he goes and great for a forward based game

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 03 Sep 2011, 5:26 pm

Sale won't be near relegation this year I don't think.

Sheridan, Buckley, Levaravu, Ostrikov, Vernon, Powell, Leota, Lavea, Cueto all away at world cup. will be strong when they return. No Fourie today either

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 5:42 pm

Forgot about Fourie, he'll be big for them. The rest don't really inspire much. Buckley...a prop who can't scrummage, Vernon isn't up to much, I'd have him a similar level to Hogg. Lack of a decent 10 could be the big difference for Sale. They've made a lot of average signings like the Falcons.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 6:04 pm

Great finish Varndell. How can he finish like that and not have more caps! Looks just like Gear in full flow, just goes missing most of the game. If only he had a brain he'd be great!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 03 Sep 2011, 6:08 pm

Just getting back into the game now had to take herself to the family place. Missed much?


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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 03 Sep 2011, 6:09 pm

Bad miss Charlie!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 6:09 pm

Dire game mate. Been watching CC Bulls v Sharks

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 03 Sep 2011, 6:18 pm

Your not far wrong on the dire part! Sarries not playing great at all

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 6:24 pm

Fantastic performance Wasps, deserved win. Wentzel has really sorted lineout out. Scrum was awful but defended really well.

Launchbury played well at 6 and Poff was decent. Matthews looks a tidy SH, better pass than Simpson. Bell was excellent.

Sarries just looked off 1-15. Got to start Hodgson imo

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 03 Sep 2011, 6:31 pm

Sarries looked very rusty from what I saw. Strettle made a few breaks and looked decent so Im happy though! Smile

Poff man of the match and Wentzel has made a massive difference to that Wasps side. Wasps midfield showed good hands at different times. On Davies his service looks ok but decision making isnt there yet. Some stupid bits of play at time but grew into the game

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 6:33 pm

Yea Davies got isolated a fair, better than Berry though which isn't hard.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 03 Sep 2011, 7:32 pm

So who thought Wasps were going to lose today... :-) Never in doubt, even when the scrum decided to lose 5 of its own scrums! Is it Payne and Broster the problem? Think the scrum will change when Filipo starts, big lump.

They've made the best signings from any AP team this season - Robinson is class, we've missed a controlling 10 since Alex King retired. Poff looks very good, haven't had a 7 for years with Rees always injured. Thought the ref was really harsh on him at the breakdown. Southwall also impressed me, could be exactly what Varndell and Wade need - both try machines!

Wade has better basics than Varndell and a lot more heart in the tackle area, incredibly quick - always thought his size could be the thing that goes against him, still could, but he looked pretty good today. Varndell would be an England int. if he could defend properly or went looking for the ball like AShton does. He just stays on the wing, maybe lack of rugby brains.

Think it was a huge, huge mistake not to take Flutey to the WC - offers so much more than Hape does. Bell put in some monster hits - surprised no one has him in the game?

If you stop Sarries getting penalties then you can beat them, as they very rarely score tries - could change with Hodgson - but the midfield is so one dimensional and Goode has stopped developing, thought he was an England prospect...


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Post by dammit_chris Sat 03 Sep 2011, 7:37 pm

Pooly do you think Varndell could get back into the England team? He's such a good finisher, not sure many people can catch him once he gets going. Wish he came off his wing though, could be so dangerous if he supported the midfield runners.

Think Cueto will be replaced post WC as his speed has gone, and just doesnt look like scoring. Who is up there to replace him?

Guess you have Sharples, Monye, Simpson Daniel, Banahan - really hope it isnt Banahan, think he's awful...

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 03 Sep 2011, 7:43 pm

Didnt think Wades basics were great at all Chris mate. Hes a fantastic athlete but needs to work on his basics. Quite impressed with Poff looks a great signing considering how Rees has gone again

Think Sharples is the best bet currently for the ENgland wing spot but theres plenty of cracking youngsters around and who knows where they will be come the end of the season

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Post by Guest Sat 03 Sep 2011, 7:50 pm

For me cueto needs replacing now. Carlton palmer of rugby. Similar to Tim payne. Nobody knows why he is in the team but is. To be fair too coaches know a lot more than us.

Chris I have stated many times throughout the years that broster is the worst tighthead seen at Prem level. His agent touted him to cinderford and several nd1 teams in the summer and there were zero takers. Wasps obviously had some options fall through hence kept hon

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 03 Sep 2011, 7:54 pm

SJE - wouldnt base judgement on Wade in that game, his positional play is very good for a 20 year old and has a good offloading game. Think for a wing he has the basics he needs, just worry that his size is going to stop him developing.

Poff was very good, espc as he only landed in England last week and has had 3 training sessions. Think it shows how important an out and out 7 is - its a shame that Rees was injured as Poff was over here to play at 8 originally.

Heard Worsely is going to announce his retirement, got a pretty serious neck injury from the sounds of it.

Some big results today, Exeter and Worcestor both winning - if you get to watch a Worcestor game keep an eye of Jake Abbott playing at 7 - he's about 23/24 and would imagine that he'll be at a club like Leicester, Bath within 12 months.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 03 Sep 2011, 7:55 pm

Pooly

Vernon is brilliant. Always impressed me when he's played.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:01 pm

First League Table of the season...


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PWDLPF PATFTA PDBPPTS
01 – Newcastle Falcons1 100392352+1615
02 – Leicester Tigers1 100311840+1315
03 – Sale Sharks1 100301842+1215
04 – Northampton Saints1 100322943+315
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05 - Saracens1 100271931+804
06 - Harlequins1 100272332+404
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07 – Gloucester1 001293234-311
08 – London Irish1 001232723-411
09 – London Wasps1 001192713-800
10 – Worcester Warriors1 001183024-1200
11 – Exeter Chiefs1 001183104-1300
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12 – Bath Rugby1 001233925-1600




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In the case of equality at any stage of the Season, positions at that stage of the season shall be determined firstly by the number of wins achieved and then on the basis of match points differential. A Club with a larger number of wins shall be placed higher than a Club with the same number of league points but fewer wins.

If Clubs have equal league points and equal number of wins then a Club with a larger difference between match points "for" and match points "against" shall be placed higher in the Premiership League than a Club with a smaller difference between match points "for" and match points "against".

Should two Clubs have the same number of league points and the same match points difference, the Club having scored more match points "for" shall be placed higher in the Premiership League than the Club having the lesser number of match points "for".

If the above does not establish different Premiership League positions then the Club in the higher position shall be the Club that has achieved the higher aggregate match points scored by it in the same season against the other Club.

If this still does not establish the position then the Club who has won the most matches, excluding its first Premiership League match of the season, then its second Premiership League match and so on, until it can be established which the higher placed Club is.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:36 pm

Something still doesn't right with Falcons at the top!

Think Vernon is pretty average Steve, Scotland will really suffer if he's their best 8.

Varndell will never make it, he's too thick I think. Just stands on the wing all game.

"For me cueto needs replacing now. Carlton palmer of rugby. Similar to Tim payne. Nobody knows why he is in the team but is. To be fair too coaches know a lot more than us."

That's pretty funny, think we've carried Cueto for a season too long. Pity they didn't take a punt on Sharples earlier. Banahan is no Int winger!

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:47 pm

2 horse race already pooly? Wink

Glad Poff went well. Got him from the draft and had a feeling he'd be a hit. Been playing second fiddle to McCaw I think.

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Post by Guest Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:50 pm

Vernon is a club player and competitive no more. I used to work with varndells mum at pfizer. She would never say who his father was apparently a famous black athlete. She Is a dizzy blonde. My money was on akabussi.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:51 pm

LukeLovesLuka wrote:2 horse race already pooly? Wink

Glad Poff went well. Got him from the draft and had a feeling he'd be a hit. Been playing second fiddle to McCaw I think.

Ooh, overconfidence eh? normally comes just before a fall... Whistle
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:54 pm

Just looking to improve on last season, that's all Wink

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:55 pm

How about Colin Jackson....or maybe not

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:55 pm

Me too Whistle
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:58 pm

Linford?

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:04 pm

Lol Pooly...

LLL - think you did really well with Poff - think he will get better and better and your lucky as Wasps are on the box a lot during first two months. His ratng will shoot up.

What did people think of Launchbury?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:07 pm

He done well Chris, better at lock I think but looks a talent.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:14 pm

He's definitely a better lock - not sure how much game time he will get there though, Wentzel, Birkett, Filipo - think he's going to be used as a 6 a lot to get exp this season.

You think Newcastle will go down this season? Exeter and Worcestor both look very good, both got shrewd buys and their packs are strong. Cant see Newcastle winning many? - have to pick up a lot of their points during the WC period...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:26 pm

We've made a few under the radar signings which could go well. Backrow and centres were very poor last season. Brought in Shortland(CE/WG), Goosen(FB) Helluer(CE) and a cracking Samoan back rower Tu'uifu.

Sweating on a Uys a big Bok centre signing. Need to gel fast though because we can't play like we did today.

I imagine us, Worcester and Sale will be scrapping it out.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:43 pm

Was going to say you've signed a really good Samoan backrow - didnt know it was Tu'uifu, expecting some massive hits in the AP this season from him now!

Worcester have signed some really good players, and personally think they have one of the best youth systems in the country, which will help them no end. Goode's kicking will keep them above the drop.

Imagine Steven will say that Sale will be pushing for a top 8 spot - they've made some good signings - not sure how quickly they will gel.

All these teams need to pick up points in the next 6 weeks, or its going to be one hell of a long season for them all. Think Wasps could be a top 4 team this year - but need to win most of their games during the WC - Dai Young a very good coach.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:47 pm

Not sure about Sales signing at all. Buckley is a terrible TH esp in the prem where scrums are so key.

TH and FH is key positions, we have Murray and Gopperth, just the players that around are pump!

Corne Uys is a real star though, will really give our backline a bit of Fizz. We've been playing Eves or Fitz at 13 and they're at best Champ players. Uys looks a class act:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDUWENMo_rE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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Post by Guest Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:51 pm

Amusingly when drunk we always text her random black athlete names. My favourite was when I realised I had sent her a text with John Regis and Derek Redmond on it.

Varndell went to colstons and played 10s pre season for a club I coached, quick is not the word

Uys is a talent Gloucester were trying to get him. We have no money but lots of talent

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:57 pm

Sheridan will need to stay fit for the season for Sale. Dickinson and Buckley is a prety shambolic looking scrum. I know Imolek and Thomas have plenty of potential and have put in some pretty good shifts at times but are still pretty incosistant which you would expect considering their ages.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 03 Sep 2011, 10:02 pm

Am watching the Bulls vs. Sharks game from earlier, and how Werner Kruger got near a Springbok jersey is beyond me. His scrummaging makes Tony Buckley look like a world beater.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Sep 2011, 10:07 pm

Juandre played quite well though, he's looking pretty tasty this season.

I really like Terblaunch, such a tidy player for the Sharks.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 03 Sep 2011, 10:09 pm

Terblanche has been around for years, so much experience. Rarely makes mistakes, very good player.
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