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Post by Driver Mon 29 Aug 2011, 4:01 pm

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 11 Sep 2011, 3:23 pm

Changing my mind over Christian Wade. He's been looking sensational today!!! Really really good

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 11 Sep 2011, 6:04 pm

Steven, at start of the season I was trying to sell Wade for £3m - honestly didnt think he was big enough to be a success at this level. Really proved me wrong. The speed he has is unbelievable - how do you defend against someone who has that sort of gas?

Want to see how he goes in wetter conditions, but looks like he's only going to get better and better! And to think I dropped him against you this week!

Great game of rugby today - didnt realise how good Poff is

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 11 Sep 2011, 6:45 pm

Wade was really great today. he looks to me like he will be a improvement on players like Ojo and Monye when he matures.

Wasps looking strong. Who do you get back from the World Cup? Is it just Thompson and Simpson?

and where is Worsley atm?

George Ford was s h i t hot today as well. Not really sure why he wasn't kicking tbh

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 11 Sep 2011, 6:50 pm

I heard Worsley is finished steve.

Haven't seen the game, but heard 36 got all of the Tigers points. how did he play?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 11 Sep 2011, 6:54 pm

I only saw his second try which was after a good break from Ford. He played at 13 and seemed to do pretty well. Goal kicking accurate.

Wade was MoM with Ford, Poff, Wentzel and 36 probably his closest competitors for the award.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 11 Sep 2011, 6:55 pm

We've got a Zak Taulafo out there too, was going to say Shaw, but he's not with us anymore - reckon he'll retire after WC anyhow.

Thought Ford was ok, had a good first half but seemed as though Leicester faded away in second half. Twelvetrees had a good game, though am sure his position is a 12.

Ford doesn't kick as Cockerill doesnt want to put too much pressure on him, its a lot for someone who turned 18 just 2 months ago. His defence was good, just couldnt get the backline moving.

The way Wade runs is very similar to Shane Williams, both similar sizes - want to see his defence tested though.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 11 Sep 2011, 6:56 pm

Steven - I posted last week that Worsley is about to announce his retirement, got a neck injury, which isnt going to heal and he's 34 now - achieved all he needs to.

And sorry, thought you said Ford was s h it today! Couldnt work out why you would write that lol

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 11 Sep 2011, 6:57 pm

Pete - a midfield of Farrel and 36 could be good next week?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 11 Sep 2011, 6:57 pm

Missed the prem games. Wade can finish but he's just really small. Imagine him against Nalaga or Gear. Be interesting to see if he can cope in the prem when Tuilagi comes back.

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Post by CJB Sun 11 Sep 2011, 7:01 pm

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 11 Sep 2011, 7:01 pm

Oh there's no doubt that Wade's defence could do with some work but his raw talent as a player in sublime.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 11 Sep 2011, 7:15 pm

What would we think to a manager of the month being re introduced??

Could be a prize if anyone could think of a decent one which isn't cash. Just list our 1,2 and 3 with explanations if needed.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 11 Sep 2011, 7:19 pm

Pooly - Shane Williams has done ok with his size over the last 10 years, smashed Banahan a few weeks ago! You could also say could Gear and Tuilagi etc cope with a winger as quick, agile etc as Wade?

Thought Launchbury was superb again, he's going to play for most of the season as 6 I think, seems to be a very clever player.

So many good youngsters coming though now. Really exciting times for English rugby! How good were Exeter yesterday!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 11 Sep 2011, 7:21 pm

Oz's first try was unreal today

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 11 Sep 2011, 7:22 pm

Samo is looking world class these last few games

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Post by prop_lyd Sun 11 Sep 2011, 7:29 pm

I'd be up for m.o.m again, may mean I stand a chance at winning something!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 11 Sep 2011, 7:42 pm

Think Williams is the exception rather than the norm, he's pretty strong for his size and has always punched above his weight. Be good to see how he develops through the season when teams work him out a bit

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 11 Sep 2011, 10:09 pm

Pooly, can you work someone out with that much pace though? He's got an incredible step - if you do a google search for Christian Wade tries and watch the videos of him, some of the things he does is unreal.

Williams is the exception, but no reason why Wade can't become the next one - he's at the right club to stay grounded and I think he will get better and better. Varndell and him are going to mean Wasps are dangers all season.

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Post by stnick88 Sun 11 Sep 2011, 10:13 pm

Varndell has looked good this season.
wasps look dangerous but its post WC that will be the test for you. still unconvinced by your forwards.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 11 Sep 2011, 10:16 pm

Pace isn't everything Chris, it def helps though! Vardell is pretty express but lacks a brain and work ethic to make it at the top. Very early days for Wade, re-asses at mid season lol

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 11 Sep 2011, 10:33 pm

A pack of Payne, Thompson Broster/taulafo, filipo, wentzel, launchbury poff and hart is pretty strong. need a tighthead but its pretty strong. Depth is the big issue

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 11 Sep 2011, 10:36 pm

I fancy Wasps for a decent finish this season

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Post by stnick88 Sun 11 Sep 2011, 10:38 pm

it's not great steve. think there are a few , including sale's, better than that.

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Post by stnick88 Sun 11 Sep 2011, 10:56 pm

i do like wentzel though, and poff looks decent.
just not a fan of payne or taulafo

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 12 Sep 2011, 7:26 am

Its a tough one with the props, Broster and Payne aren't good enough - although Payne has set up three tries this season with line breaks...I think we made a massive mistake in not keeping Charlie Beech, but big things are expected of Bob Baker.

Rob webber has started the season very well and you wont get many better second row combos in the AP than Filipo and Wentzle . We've been unlucky losing Ward-Smith and Worsley to retirement, and Rees (again) to long-term injury, but Launchbury, Poff and Hart is a pretty good unit, and we've got some good youngsters Sam Jones. Billy Vunipola, Tom Everard (from Leicester), Rich Harries (Dragons) and we are meant to sign an Argentinian international backrower in next week or so.

Depth is better than it ever has been, we just need to keep gelling and improving as the team at the moment is effectively a new team that hasnt played together.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 12 Sep 2011, 8:17 am

Lawes cited for Ledesma clash - hopefully we will be officiated by the same panel that let Cooper off for kneeing McCaw in the head.

Somehow I doubt that...

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 12 Sep 2011, 9:55 am

Looks like Digby might be out of the world cup with a hand injury. That is a huge blow. He has been just about the most dangerous player on the planet in the recent months.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 12 Sep 2011, 9:56 am

just read he hopes to play later in tournament.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 12 Sep 2011, 10:02 am

fractured thumb, could be out up to 4 weeks. No way will they send him home, they wil take the chance, he has been in great from throught 3N's and started well against the Italians.

Report I read said should be back for the QF's.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 12 Sep 2011, 10:04 am

He's been in pretty tasty form, be a loss.

Imagine Lawes might get a week, possibly worth it as Contepomi going off prob allowed us back into the game.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 12 Sep 2011, 10:12 am

They don't need a replacement for him with AAC, JOC and Mitchell.

Be interesting to see whether they keep Faainga in the side or put AAC back at 13 and bring in Mitchell. I think Faainga is best used against the best sides instead of the lesser sides at the world cup.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 12 Sep 2011, 10:26 am

I don't think best sides is the phrase, maybe the sides were a midfield line breaker isn't needed.

If Fa'ainga lines up with McCabe you're relying on Cooper/Genia and back 3 to create attacking flair whilst midfield basically shuts up. Bit like England with Hape & Tindall I suppose.

I'd still like to see JOC/Fa'ainga midfield

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 12 Sep 2011, 10:39 am

I'd like to see the same but I can't see it happening with Barnes there aswell.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 12 Sep 2011, 10:59 am

Forgot about Barnes.....so few options for Aus, surprised they manage to put out a side sometimes.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 12 Sep 2011, 11:20 am

It must be a struglle for them Pooly, I can see Deans there now, middle of the night, nervous wreck, unable to sleep

'O shoite, Digby is injured, whatever shall I do, it's a mess, do I bring in Barnes and shift AAC to the wing, or just put Mitchell out wide. How on earth can a I cope with having so many world class backs at my disposal, I wish I was managing Scotland instead!!!'

You got to feel for the fella.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 12 Sep 2011, 11:23 am

You think a few of these Aussie backs would have a English relative....

Anybody got a decent-good English SH available on a perm deal?

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Post by Driver Mon 12 Sep 2011, 11:24 am

I'm back! and it's cold phhhh!

So 207 expect some detailed team selections and tactics for this week Wink
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 12 Sep 2011, 11:24 am

Yeah, funny how none of them have found a long lost grandma eh?

Still, we always have Hape to bring in if we lose one of our top backs! Whistle
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Post by prop_lyd Mon 12 Sep 2011, 11:29 am

I'm after a good hooker and loosehead chaps.
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Post by Driver Mon 12 Sep 2011, 11:32 am

Don't forget Banahan pete!
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Post by prop_lyd Mon 12 Sep 2011, 11:41 am

Driver - RIP 606 wrote:Don't forget Banahan pete!

And JSD and Sharples........oh wait......... laughing
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Post by stnick88 Mon 12 Sep 2011, 11:53 am

What top backs are those pete!?

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Post by stnick88 Mon 12 Sep 2011, 12:19 pm

looking for an english winger, any have any available?

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Post by Driver Mon 12 Sep 2011, 12:23 pm

Balshaw , Smith , Thompstone
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 12 Sep 2011, 12:29 pm

Ojo, Benjamin Very Happy

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 12 Sep 2011, 1:18 pm

Anyone know when I will find out when Marler is banned or not???

Hope he gets away with it.

Braveheart for Marler

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 12 Sep 2011, 1:21 pm

Meeting tomorrow I think I read OK

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 12 Sep 2011, 1:35 pm

See Nalaga joins Western Force and Gethin expected to be fit for the Samoa game.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 12 Sep 2011, 2:10 pm

Hope he does get banned for it!! Dirty bugg er!!

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Post by Driver Mon 12 Sep 2011, 2:13 pm

What did Marler do?
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