England vs Argentina - match thread.

by **Biltong** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 8:52 am

First topic message reminder :

My prediction was England by 10, so hopefully the Argentinians give a good account of themselves.

This will have to be a great match to live up to the one we have just seen.

by Gatts Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:35 am

oops sorry dreamer mea culpa...just being Welsh

by MMC Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:36 am

If he'd passed to Agulla there that was curtains. England should count themselves lucky that Argentina a) can't kick goals and b) seem like poor finishers.

by Cari Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:36 am

OK lads. Leave it out, yeah?

Bollix. Pumas should've got in there.

by **Biltong** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:36 am

Gatts, remain calm buddy, if you get a 24 hour ban, I can't rag you tomorrow. Whistle

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:36 am

no worries Gatts, I've removed your latest response so things don't continue

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:37 am

Butchered try there.

England should give a bit more on the back foot of the ruck. They know they aren't getting favours off Lawrence, so don't give him an excuse to ping you for offside.

by Taffineastbourne Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:37 am

Citing for Lawes,anybody?

by Standulstermen Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:37 am

Bar a couple of iffy ones Lawrence has been spot on. And i dont rate him usually. Easter was imo lucky in the first half. Only the captain should be allowed to talk to the ref. I still fancy England to stroll this in the last 20

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:37 am

biltongbek wrote:Gatts, remain calm buddy, if you get a 24 hour ban, I can't rag you tomorrow.

Brilliant.

by HammerofThunor Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:37 am

by **rodders** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:37 am

Cari wrote:OK lads. Leave it out, yeah?

Bollix. Pumas should've got in there.

+1 yeah shut up you two we're trying to watch the rugby here! steam

by Standulstermen Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:38 am

Taffineastbourne wrote:Citing for Lawes,anybody?

Cant see it. I didnt see the Ledesma one though. His hit on Tiesi was infortunate. Looked worse because Tiesi turned just as the hit came in

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:38 am

Well at least they got points from it, still can't believe Argentina didn't get a try there.

Taff - not sure, don't think there will be, nothing looked intentional from Lawes. Depends if the citing people get him for being reckless with his 2nd challenge or not. Don't think they weill.

by Gatts Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:38 am

Yeah sorry fellas...I am in Canada and there was an earhtquake here today...slightly nervous that tsunami might mean i miss game tomorrow

by MMC Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:39 am

I'm not anti-England by any stretch but I did have a cheeky flutter on Argentina - I can't see them doing it having lost Dr. Phil and Tiesi though.

by Cari Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:39 am

Citing for Lawes? No, why? It looked accidental to me. Just one of those things.

by **Biltong** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:39 am

England will have to start stamping their authority on this game and gain control, otherwise they will be in deep, deep, trouble

by eirebilly Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:39 am

The main concern for England has to be the fact that if they play this poorly against a better side, they will be punished accordingly.
They can consider themselves very lucky right now.

Still expect them to push on and outdo Argentina in the end but there are some real worrying signs for them.

by doctor_grey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:39 am

Citing for Lawes. Don't see it coming honestly (or dishonestly).

by nottins Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:39 am

by **rodders** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:40 am

Taffineastbourne wrote:Citing for Lawes,anybody?

Yup he's put in a few cheap shots alright. I think it was him with the knee to ludezmas(?) head?

by **Biltong** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:40 am

Cari wrote:Citing for Lawes? No, why? It looked accidental to me. Just one of those things.

Not wanting to sart a whlle different debate here, but if that was Bakkies botha, would you still have said that?

by B91212 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:40 am

England have lacked intensity at the start of each half. Bet MJ will let that slide when they watch the replay of the game together. Wilkinson needs to nail these kicks no matter how hard they are

by Gatts Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:40 am

Nottins watch the game or ____ __

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:40 am

Drop it Nottins & Gatts.
People are trying to discuss the rugby.
If you want to take it further, send me a pm.

by doctor_grey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:41 am

Same stuff as first half. Get in the ruck and don't get it out again. Bad decision making, frankly.

by **Biltong** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:41 am

Gatts wrote:Nottins watch the game or ____ __

Gatts, leave it, our game is tomorrow. furious

by Adam D Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:42 am

What a difference between this and the France game.

If Argentina had made their kicks it would be close to over.

by HammerofThunor Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:42 am

Second tackler didn't release but penalty went to Argentina. Not surprised

by B91212 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:42 am

biltongbek wrote:
Cari wrote:Citing for Lawes? No, why? It looked accidental to me. Just one of those things.

Not wanting to sart a whlle different debate here, but if that was Bakkies botha, would you still have said that?

If he gets cited or not he's going be watched by the ref's for the rest of the tournament. Needs to be squeaky clean for a few games now

by doctor_grey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:42 am

Good decision to get Youngs on the pitch.

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:42 am

excellent take by Argentina there.

by **rodders** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:42 am

eirebilly wrote:The main concern for England has to be the fact that if they play this poorly against a better side, they will be punished accordingly.
They can consider themselves very lucky right now.

The main concern for England is that they will get beat today if they don't improve! If Argentina had knocked over those kicks it would be game over by now.

Gatts good luck sir, watch out for that Tsunami!

by nottins Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:43 am

Taffineastbourne wrote:Citing for Lawes,anybody?

Nope.

by TBJ9625 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:43 am

well Phil Vickery might be a crap commonator, but at least he's fair and honest!!!!

by **Biltong** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:43 am

That's better from england

by majesticimperialman Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:43 am

The Way this game is going England do not deserve to win.

by disneychilly Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:44 am

LOL. Youngs' number was already starting to peel off before he'd even got on the pitch.

by Gatts Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:44 am

Did England expect to win this after Argentine perf v Wales?

by doctor_grey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:44 am

"Not wanting to sart a whlle different debate here, but if that was Bakkies Botha, would you still have said that?"

No. I don't think there was anything malicious in it. Nor do i think it was bad.

by MMC Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:44 am

How many points have been left behind now??

by TheGreyGhost Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:44 am

What's up with the goal kicking? Is the ball flat?

by Adam D Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:44 am

This is the first time ever I have enjoyed watching Johnny Wilkinson play!

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:44 am

Blimey the way both sides here are playing and how Romania and Scotland are playing....this is one very open group!

Wilko misses again, I don't get it, there's a roof, there's no wind...what's happening to the kickers from both sides?!

by B91212 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:45 am

doctor_grey wrote:Good decision to get Youngs on the pitch.

Think Wigglesworth was carrying an injury from the first half (remembering the Ledesma incident). Thought Wig did okay, good defence and got the ball away okay but Youngs should be able to increase the tempo. Wilkinson must have left his kicking boots on the plane

by Taylorman Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:45 am

Woohoo.
Very interesting.another wilkinson miss.
Maybe kickers like wind?
Boilover?

by eirebilly Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:45 am

Lawes' second hit might warrent a review but personally i didnt see too much wrong in either. Hardly intenional, more just silly and and unfortunate.

England need something here or their heads may drop.

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:45 am

Adam D (Hobo) wrote:This is the first time ever I have enjoyed watching Johnny Wilkinson play!

Wum

by Standulstermen Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:45 am

Have Argentina missed 6 kicks? England 3?

Unbelievable.
VIckery is really a poor co commentator.Many people hate the guy but i rate Brian Moore. There is a bit of bias but he also is criticial of England.

by nottins Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:45 am

Illegal challenge on Armitage, no action taken.

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