England vs Argentina - match thread.

by **Biltong** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 8:52 am

First topic message reminder :

My prediction was England by 10, so hopefully the Argentinians give a good account of themselves.

This will have to be a great match to live up to the one we have just seen.

by **rodders** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:45 am

Jesus I've never seen so many missed penalties! Whats that 3 from England and 7 from Argentina?

by Gatts Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:46 am

Adam D (Hobo) wrote:This is the first time ever I have enjoyed watching Johnny Wilkinson play!

don't make me laugh, in Canada and we really can't afford any vibration here

by **Biltong** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:46 am

rugbydreamer wrote:Blimey the way both sides here are playing and how Romania and Scotland are playing....this is one very open group!

Wilko misses again, I don't get it, there's a roof, there's no wind...what's happening to the kickers from both sides?!

Maybe the light are in their eyes.? Whistle

by Cari Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:46 am

Could be nerves Dreamer?

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:46 am

Something like that Stand!

Could be Cari...for the Argentines anyway. Wouldn't have said it about Wilko.

by doctor_grey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:47 am

Easter was blatantly in from the side. almost the back door. What is he thinking?

by Gatts Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:47 am

is it me or do Arg want this game more?

by Standulstermen Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:47 am

THe Armitage thing was exactly the same as Lawes on Tiesi. Nothing in it.

I thought Argentina would be on the wane by now. THere is something to be said for adrenalin and passion. Great to see it still has a place in the game at the highest level

by **rodders** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:47 am

Someone needs to explain the breakdown rules to England I think.

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:47 am

Mike Ford or whoever said it was obviously a visionary when he called it the Group of Death.

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:48 am

Biltong - ha! you could very well be right! a bit bright aren't they....

by B91212 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:48 am

Easter should know better. Supposed to be Englands smartest forward but things like that make Haskell look less of a plank than him.

by **Pal Joey** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:48 am

Completely shapeless backline play there from England. They are looking well rattled. Whoever devised the Argie's game plan thus far deserves a medal!
Another sleeping southern giant perhaps?

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:48 am

Ledesma

being subbed now, but I think that man is an incredible rugby player.

by doctor_grey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:49 am

roddersm wrote:Someone needs to explain the breakdown rules to England I think.

This is real basic, don't you think? Shocking actually.

by Mad for Chelsea Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:49 am

England concede ANOTHER penalty, however Brycie's refereeing you have to be able to adapt!

by EnglishReign Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:49 am

We are so screwed

by perand25 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:49 am

Good god we are crap. How stupid are the bloody forwards ,now Easter in at the side too many stupid penalties given away

by **Biltong** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:49 am

This is going to throw this group in turmoil.

We'll see more armwrestles like this from Scotland and romania.

by TBJ9625 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:50 am

is it me or are england starting to look dispondant???

by paulscholes Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:50 am

Wilkinson and Tindall ade costing us like no tomorrow

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:50 am

argh another missed kick! this is getting ridiculous now.

by doctor_grey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:50 am

The kicking is purely weird. Does not make sense. For either side.

by valjester Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:50 am

biltongbek wrote:
Cari wrote:Citing for Lawes? No, why? It looked accidental to me. Just one of those things.

Not wanting to sart a whlle different debate here, but if that was Bakkies botha, would you still have said that?

It doesn't matter whether it was intentional or not, diving in feet first or with your knees is dangerous play and deserves a ban. A player's past record shouldn't come it to whether they get a ban or not. And if your previous record is brought in to it, then lawes doesn't exactly have a clean record.

by TheGreyGhost Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:51 am

Two teams frightened to lose. First to relax and get composed will pinch this.

by Cymroglan Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:51 am

What was that Very Happy

by Cari Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:51 am

YAY! Did you all see the streaker!? laughing

That's what we need, quality entertainment.

by **Biltong** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:51 am

Linebreaker wrote:Completely shapeless backline play there from England. They are looking well rattled. Whoever devised the Argie's game plan thus far deserves a medal!
Another sleeping southern giant perhaps?

I personally think they woke up 4 years ago, just didn't really get the opportunity to continue with that momentum for the last 4 years.

by disneychilly Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:51 am

Man these missed kicks are huting Los Pumas. They just can't get beyond a converted try.

by doctor_grey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:51 am

Does anyone think kicking away possession is bad. Even the grubbers?

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:51 am

I missed it!

by Gatts Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:51 am

I am shocked...called Eng to sweep group and make final....feel quite despondent, what is wrong with Eng!!!!!!!

by perand25 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:52 am

Thats it Johnny kick the ball away AGAIN

by B91212 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:52 am

Gatts wrote:
Adam D (Hobo) wrote:This is the first time ever I have enjoyed watching Johnny Wilkinson play!

don't make me laugh, in Canada and we really can't afford any vibration here

Didn't feel it this side of the mountains, you on the island or in Vancouver itself?

by **rodders** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:52 am

Flip another missed penalty. They should just get rid of the ball and have a greco roman wrestling match!

Jesus what an awful pass by Croft!

by **Pal Joey** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:52 am

Great flooding defence there from Argentina.

by **Biltong** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:52 am

If Tindall was awake there, they could have gotten away, first rule if you are going to run the ball out of your 22, get the furious

ball wide.

by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:52 am

oh God England, what's happening to you? mistakes coming from everywhere now.

There's still 20mins to go, this game is far from over, Argentina will tire, they need to compose themselves if they want to win.

by Standulstermen Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:52 am

As an Irishman i have to say i am finally glad that someone else knows how we feel! By God i wasnt in Argentina's group.

Vamos Pumas!

by HammerofThunor Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:53 am

valjester wrote:
biltongbek wrote:
Cari wrote:Citing for Lawes? No, why? It looked accidental to me. Just one of those things.

Not wanting to sart a whlle different debate here, but if that was Bakkies botha, would you still have said that?

It doesn't matter whether it was intentional or not, diving in feet first or with your knees is dangerous play and deserves a ban. A player's past record shouldn't come it to whether they get a ban or not. And if your previous record is brought in to it, then lawes doesn't exactly have a clean record.

How many times has he been cited?

by Gatts Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:53 am

TheGreyGhost wrote:Two teams frightened to lose. First to relax and get composed will pinch this.

so wrong...argentine passion v english inflexibility

first to hit penalties will win

by **Notch** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:53 am

Yes, this why we hate playing the Pumas in World Cups! Smile

by EnglishReign Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:53 am

Come on ref, jeeez

by Breadvan Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:53 am

Morning all. So glad I've woken up early after a night shift to watch this Rolling Eyes

England are absolutely woeful. Completely furious

by eirebilly Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:54 am

If Argentina do lose this they will be distraut due to the amount of missed points. You cant do that against top sides.

by EnglishReign Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:54 am

Oh right, the one where they get the ball in is fine...

by Gatts Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:54 am

B91212 wrote:
Gatts wrote:
Adam D (Hobo) wrote:This is the first time ever I have enjoyed watching Johnny Wilkinson play!

don't make me laugh, in Canada and we really can't afford any vibration here

Didn't feel it this side of the mountains, you on the island or in Vancouver itself?

victoria mate, bought a coffee at 12 40 and felt it....you?

by **Biltong** Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:54 am

HammerofThunor wrote:
valjester wrote:
biltongbek wrote:
Cari wrote:Citing for Lawes? No, why? It looked accidental to me. Just one of those things.

Not wanting to sart a whlle different debate here, but if that was Bakkies botha, would you still have said that?

It doesn't matter whether it was intentional or not, diving in feet first or with your knees is dangerous play and deserves a ban. A player's past record shouldn't come it to whether they get a ban or not. And if your previous record is brought in to it, then lawes doesn't exactly have a clean record.

How many times has he been cited?

Who Bakkies? Twice from what I remember

by doctor_grey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:54 am

Would like to see Hartley get on.

by Cari Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:54 am

Val - shouldn't he have got a red then?

Anyway, only time will tell if he gets cited or not, so that's another discussion really.

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