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Post by Biltong Sat 10 Sep 2011, 8:52 am

First topic message reminder :

My prediction was England by 10, so hopefully the Argentinians give a good account of themselves.

This will have to be a great match to live up to the one we have just seen.
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Post by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:11 am

he gets one! is it a range thing, with the ball?

The ones that have gone over from both sides have been the ones that are a lot closer to the posts.

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Post by Breadvan Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:12 am

Sorry guys, Hug Its not me honest guv..My laptops so old you can here the valves & cogs wirring when I start this b1tch up. The enigma machine is faster than this.

Finally JW nails one. Ok!
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Post by nottins Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:13 am

How many penalties do Argentina have to give away after an official warning before one of them goes to the bin ?

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Post by Cari Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:13 am

How many penalties have been conceded in this match altogether? Must be a record...

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Post by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:13 am

oh no, another Argentine injured Sad They're going to be decimated by the end of this group.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:13 am

Seriously gutted for Argentina but you have to take the chances when you get them. That amount of missed penalties will never win you matches.

England will win this but serious questions have been raised about their attack and indiscipline again.
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Post by nottins Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:13 am

Another penalty and they still have 15 men on the pitch.

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Post by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:14 am

probably the same about England did before the ref finally carded them too nottins! He seems very slow to stick to hsi warnings.

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Post by EnglishReign Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:14 am

No cards for the Argie bar stewards.

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Post by Gatts Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:14 am

eirebilly wrote:Seriously gutted for Argentina but you have to take the chances when you get them. That amount of missed penalties will never win you matches.

England will win this but serious questions have been raised about their attack and indiscipline again.

they don't seem to have an attack

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:14 am

roddersm wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
Gatts wrote:England do not deserve a victory here, but Argentina have done it again. They play like demons and after 10 tears of SH competition will be right up there
Boyo, can't really say Argentina deserve it either. In general a match which should be flushed.

Argentina missed about 9 kicks at goal, they should be well out of sight. They've lost this game rather than England winning it.
But the same applies to England. Even normal kicking would take that back to even, more or less.

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:14 am

rugbydreamer wrote:oh no, another Argentine injured Sad They're going to be decimated by the end of this group.

They're already more than decimated. It's only a 30 man squad. That's only 3 injuries.




Sorry

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Post by Notch Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:15 am

England very much deserve to win this game, barring a last minute flash of genius. They are in control.
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Post by valjester Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:15 am

rugbydreamer wrote:when you factor in two of Argentina's best players went off injured in the first half, they are playing extremely well.

Feel a bit sad for them that they might loes this match now Sad

Not to mention the players ruled out beforehand like hernadez. That has been there problem no creativity at all in the backs.

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:15 am

Impartiality in the commentary box has gone right out the window here. Pretty embarrasing actually.
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Post by Cymroglan Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:15 am

Fortunately for these two teams they are in a easy group

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:15 am

England are 3 from 8 kicking. Argentina 3 from 9.

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Post by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:16 am

ha Hammer you are too much of a pedant, you know what I mean Smile

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Post by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:16 am

Brilliant by Argentina!!!

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Post by eirebilly Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:16 am

I dont think that we are going to see Lawrence card and Argentinian today. They have been 'officially warned' enough though.
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Post by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:17 am

tackled off the ball ref after he kicked it!!

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Post by Cari Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:17 am

ARRRRGH!!! So frustrating for the Pumas. And they're robbed of a penalty.

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Post by Breadvan Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:18 am

Our defence needs some serious work between now and the next game. Erm
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Post by Gatts Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:19 am

England..what a joke...tomorrow is the real game.

England will be crushed by france if not the scots!!

..an embarassing display in anyone's book

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Post by nottins Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:19 am

Well deserved England.

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Post by rodders Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:19 am

Shocking finish. Cole was offside there.
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Post by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:19 am

b ugger.

Well done on the win England, but I so wanted Aergentina to win that. They played with such ferocity and passion you can't help but warm to them.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:20 am

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Post by perand25 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:20 am

Looks like Haskell was gouged at the end there

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Post by dubh_linn Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:20 am

Well done england id perhaps a bit fortunate...still come the knock out stages this will be a dim memory

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Post by nathan Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:20 am

Cari wrote:ARRRRGH!!! So frustrating for the Pumas. And they're robbed of a penalty.
not a chance, never a penalty!!

to say the puma's were robbed after the amount of penalties they conceded and didnt get a yellow!

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:20 am

Tuilagi had already committed to the tackle before the kick.

Bit of naughty language from Haskell there

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Post by Breadvan Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:20 am

A kick up the arris this week for the England guys. We were poor, end of. Well played Argentina. thumbsup
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Post by G2 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:21 am

I do not want to go through that again

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Post by eirebilly Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:21 am

nottins wrote:Well deserved England.

Deserved yes although i would'nt say well deserved. They were well and truely on the ropes for large portions of the match. Play like they did today against a more clinical side and England will be in serious trouble.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:21 am

England did very well to come out in the end. Youngs surely MUST start from now on...

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Post by Cari Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:21 am

Did I see Haskell call someone a Flip Kumquat at the end?

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Post by Cymroglan Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:21 am

Does that idiot not know that his swearing is being broadcasted all over the world.

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Post by Standulstermen Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:21 am

The kickers really have been the villains today. Argentina lost due to Rodriguez misses coupled with his butchered try. Tuilagi got away with one at the end but it wouldnt have mattered.

For England, they got the result which was all important. It wont matter if they improve and win the bigger games. The performance is irrelevant now. THe win is all that matters.

Credit to Argentina though. Their pack was exceptional

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Post by nottins Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:22 am

rugbydreamer wrote:tackled off the ball ref after he kicked it!!

And he milked it...

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Post by nathan Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:22 am

Gatts wrote:England..what a joke...tomorrow is the real game.

England will be crushed by france if not the scots!!

..an embarassing display in anyone's book

i understand what your trying to do.... please don't!

I seem to remember them losing 36-0 last WC and they seem to do pretty well after that...

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Post by TheGreyGhost Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:22 am

Well done England. You're a Jammy lot! Certainly dodged a bullet there.

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Post by Breadvan Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:22 am

HammerofThunor wrote:Tuilagi had already committed to the tackle before the kick.

Bit of naughty language from Haskell there

Flippin pip from JH there.... Whistle
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Post by EnglishReign Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:23 am

Vintage England Wink . Honestly though, a win that they can build on, against what turned out to be a decent Argentina side that could easily qualify.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:23 am

This was the 'fieldturf' artificial turf right? I wonder if that threw off the kickers somehow. Those are usually reliable kickers on both sides. I have played on it before and the footing feels very different.


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Post by lostinwales Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:23 am

Bet you Scotland England will be exactly like this too.

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Post by B91212 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:23 am

Haskell wasn't happy at all in that final incident - be interesting to see if the camera's picked something up, he's not usually one to get so angry

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Post by Cari Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:23 am

Cymroglan wrote:Does that idiot not know that his swearing is being broadcasted all over the world.

It's OK in sport you can put it down to "emotion" Very Happy

Not their best performance, but well done on the win England.

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Post by rodders Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:23 am

England got out of jail there and Argentina will be kicking themselves for not taking their points.

I think this match will stand England in good stead though later in the tournament and thats their toughest group game out of the way. Scotland will be a tough one too but I think to face the pumas in the 1st game is as tricky as it gets.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:24 am

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