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Post by beshocked Tue 04 Oct 2011, 2:53 pm

What do you think?

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Post by Geordie Tue 04 Oct 2011, 2:58 pm

6 Haskell
7 Wood
8 Croft

Wink

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Post by englandglory4ever Tue 04 Oct 2011, 3:06 pm

I watched the Scotland game again and particularly focused on Moody. It was as I thought. Moody was virtually anonymous the whole match. He made, at most, 2 effective tackles and about 6 or 7 ineffective attempts where he just slid off and did not stop the Scottish player. England pretty much played with just 7 forwards due to his lacklustre contribution.

It was a very indifferent performance and he should definitely lose his starting place.

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Post by Portnoy Tue 04 Oct 2011, 3:12 pm

Croft,Moody, Easter.
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And my mind will range completely after the RWC.

That's my best England RWC 2011 selection.

But as it's inevitably flawed due to the Irish/Oz game so it is parallel to the 2007 final, we don't deserve to be there.

Let the 3Ns and W/Ire thump it out.
Q/S-finals is enough.
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Post by Effervescing Elephant Tue 04 Oct 2011, 3:18 pm

Have you been at the sherry again Portnoy?
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Post by beshocked Tue 04 Oct 2011, 3:22 pm

Carpe Diem I agree I couldn't understand half of what Portnoy said.

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Post by TheGreyGhost Tue 04 Oct 2011, 3:25 pm

You're not wrong.

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Post by Armchairexpert Tue 04 Oct 2011, 7:47 pm

Let's start with No 8. Either Easter or Haskell, I'll discount Waldron for now as I simply haven't seen enough of him and anyway it hasn't been at this level or in an England shirt.

Haskell is definitely the more eye catching player and he has played much better recently. He is at his best marauding around in open play. He looks great when the pack is going forward and he carries the ball up in midfield off quick ball. What Easter does well is a lot of tidying up work and this comes into play when England are "not on the front foot". When all is fast and open and going forward he is about as useful as a chocolate teapot, he simply doesn't keep up in the same why that Haskell does. However in a game where England have slow ball he acts as a pivot around which they can play, moving it from static ruck to a maul or ruck with front foot ball. OK he isn't likely to blast a hole in the opposition but sometimes the difference bewteen 5% backwards and 5% forwards is huge. Last week was the perfect example where he made a difference when he came on.

The other point is scrum time........... especially when the scrum is under pressure you need a No 8 who knows how to and when to get the ball out. As soon as possible if the front 5 is under pressure and if they have the squeeze on the 8 should be directing and controlling the shove not allowing it to wheel,break up and the ball to turned over. Easter does this, Haskell does not.

In short unless England are going to totally dominate the breakdown and set piece, start Easter.

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Post by majesticimperialman Tue 04 Oct 2011, 7:54 pm

I voted for Croft Wood Haskell.

Although i think it will Croft, Moody,Easter.

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Post by englandglory4ever Wed 05 Oct 2011, 9:21 pm

It should be Croft, Easter, Wood

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