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Post by maestegmafia Wed 12 Oct 2011, 8:59 am

First topic message reminder :

Well played France a deserved winner... great effort by Wales but silly mistakes cost us a better result...

Good luck to Australia and New Zealand tomorrow


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Post by rodders Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:40 am

Wales can have no complaints about the red card but they deserve to win this on the basis that France have been awful. At least Wales have tried to play. France just look like they can't be bothered.
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Post by rodders Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:42 am

Come on set up for the DG!!
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Post by rodders Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:44 am

Poor play from Phillips! Doh
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Post by Cymroglan Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:45 am

Well done boys

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Post by LuvSports! Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:45 am

such a shame Sad

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:45 am

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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Post by faraway Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:45 am

the red card can't be blamed for the loss

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Post by Standulstermen Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:45 am

Bad luck Wales. The team were a credit to you. Has a team ever done less than France to make a RWC final?


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Post by nathan Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:45 am

Massive massive error from wales, not going for the DG.

They'll blame it on the sending off though.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:45 am

26 phases of nothing .

France officialy the worst side ever to contests a world cup final.

Black day for rugby, Wales can still be proud. Well done lads.

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Post by EnglishReign Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:45 am

How is this French team in the final. Just terrible, congrats Kiwis.

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Post by PJHolybloke Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:46 am

I'm stressed!
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Post by maestegmafia Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:46 am

Sp proud of Wales...

Well Played France... What a wonderful game, we can only dream of what might have been, but France are worthy finalists...

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Post by Cowshot Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:46 am

Ah well. Bad luck Wales. Real shame.

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Post by Cymroglan Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:46 am

faraway wrote:the red card can't be blamed for the loss

Of course it can

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Post by rodders Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:46 am

Ah Wales blew that! They had loads of chances for the DG!

They should be proud at what they've achieved in this competition.

France have been so poor, I can't believe they've made the final playing so poorly.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:46 am

Gutted for all of Wales.

You can be proud of your boys. They gave everything out there.
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Post by Pot Hale Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:46 am

Stephen Jones chickened out of the kick and lost that game for Wales. What a poor display.

Hard luck Wales. Well done France.
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Post by Standulstermen Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:47 am

In fairness there were a couple of French players who were excellent. I thought Bonnaire, Dusatoir and Nallet stood up. Beyond that they were dreadful

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Post by valjester Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:47 am

France are a disgrace to rugby. Absolutely terrible and will be hammered by nz or aus unless they improve a load.

Wales are unlucky, the red was deserved but the lost because they missed priestland(who would have thought we'd be saying that a month ago), hook and jones were both poor from tee and in general play.

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Post by faraway Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:47 am

the RWC winner would be SH as the french team isn't that good at all.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:47 am

Cymroglan wrote:
faraway wrote:the red card can't be blamed for the loss

Of course it can


Dont forget James Hook as well ..I bet you can blame him too

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Post by rodders Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:47 am

faraway wrote:the red card can't be blamed for the loss

Yes it can but the ref can't be blamed for the red card, only Warburton.
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Post by BATH_BTGOG Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:48 am

Gutted for Wales, you didn't deserve that.

God I dislike the French but not as much as I hate Rolland. furious
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Post by Standulstermen Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:48 am

Cymroglan wrote:
faraway wrote:the red card can't be blamed for the loss

Of course it can

Maybe so but the red was within his rights to give it. I hope the Welsh just focus on how good their team is. They are ridiculously good and very young. Favourites for the 6N by a country mile. Well Done.

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Post by Cymroglan Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:49 am

Warburton was the only player red cared so it's pretty obvious who I meant.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:49 am

faraway wrote:the RWC winner would be SH as the french team isn't that good at all.

Horrible to think I might have to cheer for Australia!

France are really really bad...its even more baffleing how England managed to sleep through the first 30 minutes of the quatrter final. Really feel like Britain missed the easiest route to a world cup final it will ever get.

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Post by gavstar Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:49 am

steven jones should have started this game

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:49 am

Cymroglan wrote:
faraway wrote:the red card can't be blamed for the loss

Of course it can

I agree. Terrible decision and 14 men against 15 men obviously is going to have a huge bearing on the game. That was never a red.

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Post by Gatts Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:49 am

Standulstermen wrote:
Cymroglan wrote:
faraway wrote:the red card can't be blamed for the loss

Of course it can

Maybe so but the red was within his rights to give it. I hope the Welsh just focus on how good their team is. They are ridiculously good and very young. Favourites for the 6N by a country mile. Well Done.
clap thankyou

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:50 am

people will talk about brave Wales, but they really should have won that IMO. France were back to their worst (ie Tonga) and Wales should have takne advantage, even with 14 men. The missed kicks will haunt them for a while. Can France get back to the level they played against England in the final (first half)?

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Post by robbo277 Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:50 am

Said it on another thread, only Fiji in 1987 have made it from the pool stages losing 2 games, and now France not only lost 2, but then gone on to make the final.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:50 am

I think Wales have a good few years ahead of them.

They've taken some u 21 stars and turned them into a quality team.

Eng also have and have had stars at that level.. time they did something with them too as they'll continue to produce quality matches like Wales which the seniors aren't doing.

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Post by faraway Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:51 am

Cymroglan wrote:
faraway wrote:the red card can't be blamed for the loss

Of course it can

it affected the game for a while BUT wales had a lot of chances to win after; the conversion, the drop kick and the penalty...IF any of them was successful wales would've won because France weren't that good

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Post by mckay1402 Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:51 am

the red was right according to IRB directive. Wales had enough penalties in kickable positions to win it.
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Post by rodders Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:51 am

Jeebus the final is going to be one sided now. They may as well give the trophy to the winner of tomorrows game.

clap Well done to the Welsh for haveing such a great tournament. They still should and could have won.

The red card shouldn't take away from how great Warburton has been. He'll learn from it and be an even better player and captain.
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Post by Taylorman Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:51 am

Hard luck wales.
Missed kicks.
French did nothing. 14 Men.
Unbelievable.

Not a good thing to say but france did nothing with the advantage.

Tomorrow is the final.
No way on earth will france beat oz or nz.

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Post by Guest Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:51 am

C'est La Vie

We could, and should have had that... the red card impacted but we were still the better side and had plenty of time to get over it..... missed conversion and the odd knock on... I feel sick

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Post by mpc28 Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:52 am

So so proud of that performance, cant argue with the red card although there certainly wasnt any malice in it.

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Post by Taylorman Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:53 am

Geez. Gutted for you welsh.

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Post by Shifty Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:54 am

Rolland is a difficult call, Wales would of known before the game that being half French and with his record he will tend to lean a bit towards them, he sent off the Namibian playing in the last world cup for a arm across the shoulder of a French player in the 19th minute. So to see a marginal call like that going against Wales is no suprise, Warbuton made a bad decision and put pressure on Wales but he didn't cause us to lose. Regardless though Wales should not of put themselves in that position and this is dissappointing.

Wales still aren't out of this World Cup, we have another game to play, but we can no longer win it. We have been very brave and our boys have given us everything, lets not hammer them for trying their best.
They have done far more than we could of dreamed of before the tournament well done lads were very proud of you. Hug
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Post by Guest Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:55 am

Well done France. Deserved victory. Hope they meet Aus in the final.


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Post by valjester Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:56 am

Standulstermen wrote:
Cymroglan wrote:
faraway wrote:the red card can't be blamed for the loss

Of course it can

Maybe so but the red was within his rights to give it. I hope the Welsh just focus on how good their team is. They are ridiculously good and very young. Favourites for the 6N by a country mile. Well Done.

Yep they are looking very formidable for the next few years.


The game was a real disappointment, two teams with outstanding back-lines resorting to kicking the ball high in the air and doing an Argentina on it.
Watching this in France and you'd think they had just been absolutely hammered, its like a morgue.

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Post by robbo277 Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:56 am

I said at the start of the tournament if England didn't win (out of the realistic candidates) I wanted France to do it, but they're making it very difficult for me to get behind them.

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Post by Notch Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:57 am

Alyn, parts of that were a good post but would you give it a rest with this half French BS. Rolland showed no bias out there. It wasn't a marginal call; read the rules.

The key for Wales is that they missed four kicks and two drop goals. That will lose you semi-finals.
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Post by Gatts Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:58 am

SafeAsMilk wrote:Well done France. Deserved victory. Hope they meet Aus in the final.


how deserved?

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:58 am

Lets not make Allan Rolland the subject of the post match discussion. He wasn't, Wales could have won the match without that decision but they didn't. France were great and they deserved this narrow win.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 15 Oct 2011, 10:59 am

I'm with Alyn on this, I think it was a shocking decision. Wales may have missed their kicks but playing 60 minutes with 14 men is almost impossible to compete and win a match with. Awful decision and Rolland should be reviewed, it was a penalty and maybe a yellow. A red is just ridiculous.

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Post by Davie Sat 15 Oct 2011, 11:00 am

Piennar and co are really starting to annoy me now

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 15 Oct 2011, 11:00 am

Gatts wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:Well done France. Deserved victory. Hope they meet Aus in the final.


how deserved?
Ignore him he is a pathetic troll trying to get a rise out of you.

Be Welsh proud and ignore the obvious statements that will come from people like him...

Well done Wales and well done France.

We are all upset, but no one can change what happened


Wales gave so much to this rugby world cup, lets focus on the positives

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