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Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
First topic message reminder :
Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3
Week Five Results
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Week Five Review
The Fights
Repeated warnings went unheeded, further punishment was required and in the end it cost him everything. No, not coxy0001, but Amir Khan, the former champ's two points off costing him his titles. Ungracious in defeat, Khan has a lot of hard work ahead.
A disappointing week all round, two cancellations, a no contest, and an RJJ win, which obviously proves that the former great should carry on in the ring.
The Premiership
Unexpected results and a no contest meant low scores all round this week.
Predictor of the Week goes to Eyetoldyouso, a paltry 8 points wouldn't usually win it but given that his 8 points lifted him from the relegation zone to a respectable 8th place finish, the award is deservedly given to the now former UCPL champion.
The big story though is all about bhb001, a meagre 4 points was just enough to keep him at the top, the new UCPL champion winning the title by 1 single point.
Well done, bhb!
The Championship
A single point was enough, as Adam D clinched the Championship title with an impressive total of 49 points.
The remaining four promotion places chopped and changed throughout the season, and it's congratulations to SportsmanGC, All Time Great, two_tone and lfc91 who will all battle it out in next season's Premiership.
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UCPL Prediction Premiership Table
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UCPL Prediction Premiership Predictor of the Week Awards
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UCPL Championship Table
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Scoring and Rules
Union Cane's Prediction League Hall of Fame
Links
Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3
Week Five Results
| Void |
2. Amir Khan v. Lamont Peterson (12) | Lamont Peterson W SD |
3. Roy Jones Jr v. Max Alexander (10) | Roy Jones Jr W UD |
| Void |
5. Chris Edwards v. Shinny Banyaar (12) | Chris Edwards W UD |
B1. Jose Salgado v. Liborio Solis (12) | Liborio Solis W SD |
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado v. Miguel Beltran Jr (12) | No Contest |
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Week Five Review
The Fights
Repeated warnings went unheeded, further punishment was required and in the end it cost him everything. No, not coxy0001, but Amir Khan, the former champ's two points off costing him his titles. Ungracious in defeat, Khan has a lot of hard work ahead.
A disappointing week all round, two cancellations, a no contest, and an RJJ win, which obviously proves that the former great should carry on in the ring.
The Premiership
Unexpected results and a no contest meant low scores all round this week.
Predictor of the Week goes to Eyetoldyouso, a paltry 8 points wouldn't usually win it but given that his 8 points lifted him from the relegation zone to a respectable 8th place finish, the award is deservedly given to the now former UCPL champion.
The big story though is all about bhb001, a meagre 4 points was just enough to keep him at the top, the new UCPL champion winning the title by 1 single point.
Well done, bhb!
The Championship
A single point was enough, as Adam D clinched the Championship title with an impressive total of 49 points.
The remaining four promotion places chopped and changed throughout the season, and it's congratulations to SportsmanGC, All Time Great, two_tone and lfc91 who will all battle it out in next season's Premiership.
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UCPL Prediction Premiership Table
Position | User Name | Week One | Week Two | Week Three | Week Four | Week Five | Total Score |
1 | bhb001 | 11 | 8 | 20 | 7 | 4 | 50 |
2 | coxy0001 | 11 | 8 | 12 | 10 | 8 | 49 |
3 | sodhat | 12 | 8 | 13 | 11 | 4 | 48 |
4 | Dazstarr | 11 | 9 | 11 | 15 | 1 | 47 |
5 | JDizzle | 8 | 12 | 9 | 13 | 4 | 46 |
6 | Knowsit17 | 12 | 12 | 11 | 9 | 2 | 46 |
7 | The genius of PBF | 8 | 11 | 8 | 12 | 5 | 44 |
=8 | rowley | 8 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 0 | 43 |
=8 | Eyetoldyouso | 9 | 7 | 12 | 7 | 8 | 43 |
10 | JDandfries | 6 | 6 | 17 | 12 | 1 | 42 |
11 | 6oldenbhoy | 12 | 7 | 14 | 5 | 4 | 42 |
12 | 88Chris05 | 14 | 8 | 10 | 8 | 1 | 41 |
=13 | Dass | 12 | 11 | 12 | 5 | 1 | 41 |
=13 | ermietrude | 8 | 10 | 10 | 12 | 1 | 41 |
15 | WelshDevilRob | 8 | 11 | 7 | 9 | 5 | 40 |
16 | The Galveston Giant | 10 | 8 | 11 | 9 | - | 38 |
17 | TopHat24/7 | 7 | 8 | 14 | 7 | 1 | 37 |
18 | Mind the windows Tino. | 9 | 8 | 10 | 9 | - | 36 |
19 | Il Gialloblu | 7 | 9 | 6 | 11 | 0 | 33 |
20 | compelling and rich | 4 | 8 | 7 | 4 | 8 | 31 |
21 | School Project | 7 | - | - | - | - | 7 |
UCPL Prediction Premiership Predictor of the Week Awards
Week One | 88hris05 |
Week Two | Knowsit17 |
Week Three | bhb001 |
Week Four | Dazstarr |
Week Five | Eyetoldyouso |
UCPL Championship Table
Position | User Name | Week One | Week Two | Week Three | Week Four | Week Five | Total Score |
1 | Adam D (Hobo) | 15 | 11 | 12 | 10 | 1 | 49 |
2 | SportsmanGC | 9 | 8 | 12 | 12 | 8 | 49 |
3 | All Time Great | 11 | 11 | 16 | 6 | 4 | 48 |
4 | two_tone | 7 | 11 | 15 | 10 | 4 | 47 |
5 | lfc91 | 9 | 11 | 9 | 14 | 4 | 47 |
6 | jamesedwardcox | 10 | 10 | 13 | 10 | 4 | 47 |
7 | bellchees | 11 | 12 | 12 | 8 | 4 | 47 |
=8 | KingMonkey | 8 | 10 | 15 | 13 | 0 | 46 |
=8 | Valero's Conscience | 6 | 14 | 15 | 10 | 1 | 46 |
=10 | Alex Huckerby | 8 | 11 | 12 | 10 | 4 | 45 |
=10 | DavidBlunkettsuppercut | 7 | 12 | 10 | 8 | 8 | 45 |
=10 | Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn | 4 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 8 | 45 |
13 | tommyhearnsprodigalson | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 1 | 45 |
14 | owen10ozzy | 9 | 7 | 16 | 11 | 1 | 44 |
15 | md_fan | 8 | 5 | 18 | 11 | 1 | 43 |
16 | alma | 8 | 7 | 8 | 14 | 4 | 41 |
17 | skimpton | 9 | 8 | 11 | 7 | 6 | 41 |
18 | Union Cane | 7 | 8 | 10 | 13 | 2 | 40 |
19 | Soldier_of_Fortune | 10 | 11 | 9 | 9 | 1 | 40 |
20 | tcribb | 13 | 7 | 11 | 7 | - | 38 |
21 | Steffan | 7 | 8 | 12 | 7 | 4 | 38 |
=22 | tomfinneywalksonwater | 12 | 5 | 12 | 5 | 2 | 36 |
=22 | ShahenshahG | 5 | 7 | 12 | 7 | 5 | 36 |
24 | quentins_monkey | 11 | 5 | 10 | 9 | 1 | 36 |
25 | Lance | 7 | 7 | 10 | 8 | 1 | 33 |
26 | sherm | 8 | 8 | 9 | 6 | 2 | 33 |
27 | JB_Jimbop | 11 | 11 | 9 | - | 1 | 32 |
28 | Y I Man | 5 | 9 | 9 | - | 8 | 31 |
29 | ian_jamsie | 10 | 7 | 7 | 1 | 5 | 30 |
30 | PPVxHOTTY | 7 | 7 | - | 8 | 8 | 30 |
31 | cave_man_KO | 13 | 5 | - | 10 | 1 | 29 |
32 | paperbag_puncher | 7 | - | 9 | 10 | - | 26 |
3 | slash912 | 10 | - | 15 | - | - | 25 |
34 | aka | 5 | 7 | - | 8 | 4 | 24 |
35 | trottb | 8 | 12 | - | - | - | 20 |
36 | Fists of Fury | 7 | 12 | - | - | - | 19 |
37 | Scottrf | 6 | 9 | 0 | 4 | - | 19 |
=38 | richiewk2 | 9 | 8 | - | - | - | 17 |
=38 | BoxingFan88 | 8 | 9 | - | - | - | 17 |
40 | Michaels, Sean | 6 | 9 | - | - | - | 15 |
41 | Sugar Boy Sweetie | 7 | 8 | - | - | - | 15 |
42 | d260005p | - | - | 7 | 1 | 4 | 12 |
43 | superflyweight | 8 | - | - | - | - | 8 |
=44 | KO-KING | 7 | - | - | - | - | 7 |
=44 | Imperial Ghosty | - | - | 7 | - | - | 7 |
=46 | no-mas | 6 | - | - | - | - | 6 |
=46 | spencerclarke | - | - | - | 6 | 0 | 6 |
48 | Day V Lately | 2 | - | - | - | - | 2 |
49 | djlovesyou | - | - | - | - | 1 | 1 |
Scoring and Rules
- Spoiler:
- I will list fights 1 - 5, then back-up fights B1 and B2. This list will be definitive, when predicting please list fights in the same order.
- If a fight is cancelled, postponed, or if a fighter drops out and is replaced, that fight is then void.
- If a fight is declared void for any of the above reasons, it will be replaced by fight B1. A second void fight will be replaced by fight B2.
- Predict the winner - 1 point
- - Predict the method (KO*/Pts) - 1 point
- - - Predict 'Early' or 'Late' (for KO) / 'Unanimous' or 'Majority/Split' (for Pts) - 1 point
- Get all three above correct - 1 bonus point
- Correctly predicting a draw (be it majority or even technical) will score you 10 points
- A fight that is stopped early and referred to the judges cards (a Technical Decision) will count as a Points result, with 'Unanimous' or 'Majority/Split' obviously dependant upon the judges scores.
- A fight stopped early and declared a Technical Draw will count as a draw.
- No points will be awarded for a fight that starts but is then declared as a No Contest, such a fight will not be replaced by a back-up fight.
- Any entries that are subsequently amended will be void.
- Each season will be five weeks long.
- There will be promotion and relegation between the two divisions, with the top five in the Championship replacing the bottom five in the Premiership at the end of each season.
- If at the end of the season players are level on points, the player with the highest individual weekly score will take the higher placing.
- Nobody is automatically entered into the Championship, anyone can enter, simply post your predictions to take part, using the format detailed below. You can enter at any point in the season, after all, 5 draws is 50 points which could win promotion in one week.
- Any subsequent alteration to the result of a fight will not be taken into consIderation, the initially given result will be used. This is to be known as the 'Hopkins/Dawson Rule'.
- Predictions must be in by 17:00hrs GMT on the day of the fights. Any predictions posted after this time will not count. "Sorry Union, I forgot" will not be an acceptable excuse.
Example Entry - Please use this format :
1. Paulie Maglinaggi - KO Early
2. Edwin Valero - Pts UD
3. Calvin Brock - KO Late
4. Jessie Vargas - Pts M/SD
5. Nigel Benn v. Chris Eubank - Draw
B1. Howard Eastman KO Early
B2. Karl Place Pts UD
I think that just about covers it, any questions feel free to ask.
Union Cane's Prediction League Hall of Fame
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Champions
Season Champion Runner Up Season One The genius of PBF coxy0001 Season Two Eyetoldyouso sodhat Season Three bhb001 coxy0001 Season Four - - Season Five - -
Predictor of the Week Awards4 Knowsit17 2 coxy0001 2 Eyetoldyouso 1 The genius of PBF 1 Sugar Boy Sweetie 1 Il Gialloblu 1 ian_jamsie 1 eddyfightfan 1 JJJohnson 1 Michaels, Sean 1 prettyboykev 1 sodhat 1 The Galveston Giant 1 compelling and rich 1 88Chris05 1 bhb001 1 Dazstarr bhb001 - Season 3 - Week 3 bhb001's Predictions Actual Results Points1. Saul Alvarez v. Kermit Cintron (12) Saul Alvarez, KO, Early Saul Alvarez W TKO5 (EKO) 42. Adrien Broner v. Vicente Martin Rodriguez (12) Adrien Broner, KO, Early Adrien Broner W KO3 (EKO) 43. Selcuk Aydin v. Ionut Dan Ion (12) Selcuk Aydin, Pts, UD Selcuk Aydin W UD 44. Curtis Woodhouse v. Jason Cook (10)Curtis Woodhouse, KO, Late Void Void5. Gilberto Ramirez Sanchez v. Samuel Miller (10) Gilberto Ramirez Sanchez, KO, Early Gilberto Ramirez Sanchez W TKO4 (EKO) 4B1. Ryan Rhodes v. Siarhei Khomitski (8) Rhodes, Pts, UD Ryan Rhodes W PTS 4B2. Deontay Wilder v. David Long (8)Deontay Wilder, KO, Late Not Used Not Used20
Union Cane's Prediction Cup
Winner - alma
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
The Wolak draw looks a good shout, shame that the fight will probably not be used.
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Could everyone please check their PMs - also check to see if your inbox is 100% full, cos you wont get any pms if it is.
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Hey Union! Here are my picks for this weekends action packed bill:
1. Miguel Angel Cotto v. Antonio Margarito (12) - Margarito Wins Late Stoppage
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray (12) - BUST UP!! Murray Wins KO 6-9
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell (12) - Povetkin wins UD
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora (12) - Chisora Wins KO 3
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko (12) - Agbeko wins UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan (12) - Vic wins KO 3-5
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez (10) Wolak Wins TKO Mid-Late
Cheers pal. I know some of mine are random ie. Chisora knocking Helnius out in 3 and Murray smashing in Rios.......but i am English so my heart has come into it. Marg vs Cotto is a tough one to call, i wouldnt be surprised to see Cotto win a UD, but after fight 1, i cant call it.
Other fights should be great.
December is going to be great for boxing. Next weekend is Khan/Klitshcko/Sturm then the following week is the Super 6 Finale!
Good luck every one!!
1. Miguel Angel Cotto v. Antonio Margarito (12) - Margarito Wins Late Stoppage
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray (12) - BUST UP!! Murray Wins KO 6-9
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell (12) - Povetkin wins UD
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora (12) - Chisora Wins KO 3
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko (12) - Agbeko wins UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan (12) - Vic wins KO 3-5
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez (10) Wolak Wins TKO Mid-Late
Cheers pal. I know some of mine are random ie. Chisora knocking Helnius out in 3 and Murray smashing in Rios.......but i am English so my heart has come into it. Marg vs Cotto is a tough one to call, i wouldnt be surprised to see Cotto win a UD, but after fight 1, i cant call it.
Other fights should be great.
December is going to be great for boxing. Next weekend is Khan/Klitshcko/Sturm then the following week is the Super 6 Finale!
Good luck every one!!
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Where are my results from last time? Did i get them all wrong?? Im sure I at least picked chavez correctly! Ah well...
1. Miguel Angel Cotto v. Antonio Margarito (12) Cotto Late KO
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray (12) Rios Late KO
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell (12) Povetkin KO rd4
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora (12)Chisora Late KO
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko (12) Agbeko Points UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan (12) Darchinyan late KO
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez (10) Wolak UD
1. Miguel Angel Cotto v. Antonio Margarito (12) Cotto Late KO
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray (12) Rios Late KO
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell (12) Povetkin KO rd4
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora (12)Chisora Late KO
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko (12) Agbeko Points UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan (12) Darchinyan late KO
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez (10) Wolak UD
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
cave_man_KO wrote:Where are my results from last time? Did i get them all wrong?? Im sure I at least picked chavez correctly! Ah well...
Sorry mate, but you didn't post any predictions for Week 3.
And Chavez wasn't one of the fights.
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Miguel Angel Cotto v. Antonio Margarito: Cotto UD
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray: Rios LKO
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell: Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora: Helenius LKO
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko: Agbeko UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan: Darchinyan LKO
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez: Wolak UD
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray: Rios LKO
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell: Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora: Helenius LKO
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko: Agbeko UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan: Darchinyan LKO
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez: Wolak UD
skimpton- Posts : 189
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Miguel Angel Cotto, Points, UD
2. Brendon Rios. KO, Early
3. Alexander Povetkin, KO, Late
4. Robert Helenius, KO, Late
5. Abner Mares, Points, UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno, Points, UD
B2. Pawel Wolak, Points, UD
Cheers Union.
2. Brendon Rios. KO, Early
3. Alexander Povetkin, KO, Late
4. Robert Helenius, KO, Late
5. Abner Mares, Points, UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno, Points, UD
B2. Pawel Wolak, Points, UD
Cheers Union.
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Miguel Cotto UD
2. Brendon Rios LKO
3. Alexander Povetkin LKO
4. Dereck Chisora LKO
5. Joseph Agbeko UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno UD
B2. Pawel Wolak UD
2. Brendon Rios LKO
3. Alexander Povetkin LKO
4. Dereck Chisora LKO
5. Joseph Agbeko UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno UD
B2. Pawel Wolak UD
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Miguel Angel Cotto - LKO
2. Brandon Rios - EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin - UD
4. Robert Helenius – LKO
5. Abner Mares - UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno - UD
B2. Pawel Wolak UD
Thanks
2. Brandon Rios - EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin - UD
4. Robert Helenius – LKO
5. Abner Mares - UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno - UD
B2. Pawel Wolak UD
Thanks
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
seems like im doomed to relegation this season, do i stick to normal predictions or go out swinging for the fences?
1. Miguel Angel Cotto v. Antonio Margarito-DRAW
2. Murray EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin EKO
4. Robert Helenius EKO
5. Abner Mares LKO
B1.Vic Darchinyan LKO
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez Draw
swing for the fences it is then
1. Miguel Angel Cotto v. Antonio Margarito-DRAW
2. Murray EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin EKO
4. Robert Helenius EKO
5. Abner Mares LKO
B1.Vic Darchinyan LKO
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez Draw
swing for the fences it is then
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Miguel Cotto - UD (MIGUEL!)
Bran Rios - LKO (Can only see a night of pain for poor Murray)
Alexander Povetkin - LKO
Robert Helenius - LKO
Agbeko - UD
Darchinyan - EKO
Wolak - UD (Hopefully he won't have a golf ball on his head this time and he can get the decision)
Bran Rios - LKO (Can only see a night of pain for poor Murray)
Alexander Povetkin - LKO
Robert Helenius - LKO
Agbeko - UD
Darchinyan - EKO
Wolak - UD (Hopefully he won't have a golf ball on his head this time and he can get the decision)
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Miguel Angel Cotto UD
2. Brandon Rios LKO
3. Alexander Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius LKO
5. Abner Mares UD
B1. Vic Darchinyan UD
B2. Delvin Rodriguez SD
2. Brandon Rios LKO
3. Alexander Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius LKO
5. Abner Mares UD
B1. Vic Darchinyan UD
B2. Delvin Rodriguez SD
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Cotto UD
Rios EKO
Povetkin LKO
Helenius UD
Mares-Agbeko Draw
Moreno-Darchinyan Draw
Wolak UD
Rios EKO
Povetkin LKO
Helenius UD
Mares-Agbeko Draw
Moreno-Darchinyan Draw
Wolak UD
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Miguel Angel Cotto v. Antonio Margarito: Margarito LKO
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray: Rios EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell: Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora: Helenius UD
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko: Agbeko SD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan: Moreno UD
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez: Wolak UD
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray: Rios EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell: Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora: Helenius UD
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko: Agbeko SD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan: Moreno UD
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez: Wolak UD
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Antonio Margarito LKO.
2. Brandon Rios EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin LKO
4. Robert Helenius LKO
5. Abner Mares UD
B1. Vic Darchinyan UD
B2. Pawel Wolak UD
2. Brandon Rios EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin LKO
4. Robert Helenius LKO
5. Abner Mares UD
B1. Vic Darchinyan UD
B2. Pawel Wolak UD
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Miguel Angel Cotto v. Antonio Margarito (12) - Margrito UD
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray (12) - Rios EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell (12) - Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora (12) - Helenius LKO
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko (12) - Mares SD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan (12) Darchinyan LKO
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez (10) - Rodrigues UD
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray (12) - Rios EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell (12) - Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora (12) - Helenius LKO
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko (12) - Mares SD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan (12) Darchinyan LKO
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez (10) - Rodrigues UD
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Antonio Margarito SD
2. Brandon Rios EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius LKO
5. Abner Mares UD
B1. Vic Darchinyan LKO
B2. Pawel Wolak LKO
2. Brandon Rios EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius LKO
5. Abner Mares UD
B1. Vic Darchinyan LKO
B2. Pawel Wolak LKO
bellchees- Posts : 1776
Join date : 2011-02-25
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Antonio Margarito LKO
Brandon Rios LKO
Alexander Povetkin UD
Robert Helenius UD
Abner Mares UD
Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan LKO
Delvin Rodriguez EKO
Brandon Rios LKO
Alexander Povetkin UD
Robert Helenius UD
Abner Mares UD
Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan LKO
Delvin Rodriguez EKO
Il Gialloblu- Posts : 1759
Join date : 2011-04-30
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Friday Morning Reminder
Could the following gentlemen please post their predictions by 17:00 on Saturday 03/12.
Thanks!
88Chris05
Dazstarr
TopHat24/7
The Galveston Giant
Eyetoldyouso
The genius of PBF
WelshDevilRob
School Project
All Time Great
Adam D (Hobo)
JB_Jimbop
tomfinneywalksonwater
lfc91
slash912
ShahenshahG
Y I Man
trottb
Fists of Fury
richiewk2
BoxingFan88
paperbag_puncher
Michaels, Sean
Sugar Boy Sweetie
PPVxHOTTY
superflyweight
KO-KING
Imperial Ghosty
no-mas
Day V Lately
Could the following gentlemen please post their predictions by 17:00 on Saturday 03/12.
Thanks!
88Chris05
Dazstarr
TopHat24/7
The Galveston Giant
Eyetoldyouso
The genius of PBF
WelshDevilRob
School Project
All Time Great
Adam D (Hobo)
JB_Jimbop
tomfinneywalksonwater
lfc91
slash912
ShahenshahG
Y I Man
trottb
Fists of Fury
richiewk2
BoxingFan88
paperbag_puncher
Michaels, Sean
Sugar Boy Sweetie
PPVxHOTTY
superflyweight
KO-KING
Imperial Ghosty
no-mas
Day V Lately
Union Cane- Moderator
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Cotto ud
Rios eko
Helenius lko
Povetkin ud
Agbeko ud
Darchinyan lko
Wolak ud
Cheers union!
Rios eko
Helenius lko
Povetkin ud
Agbeko ud
Darchinyan lko
Wolak ud
Cheers union!
tomfinneywalksonwater- Posts : 225
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Age : 43
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Miguel Angel Cotto UD
Brandon Rios LKO
Alexander Povetkin LKO
Robert Helenius UD
Abner Mares UD
Anselmo Moreno UD
Delvin Rodriguez UD
Brandon Rios LKO
Alexander Povetkin LKO
Robert Helenius UD
Abner Mares UD
Anselmo Moreno UD
Delvin Rodriguez UD
Daz- Posts : 1265
Join date : 2011-01-26
Age : 44
Location : Preston
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Miguel Angel Cotto v. Antonio Margarito (12) - Margrito LKO
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray (12) - Rios EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell (12) - Povetkin LKO
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora (12) - Chisora UD
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko (12) - Mares UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan (12) Darchinyan EKO
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez (10) - Rodrigues UD
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray (12) - Rios EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell (12) - Povetkin LKO
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora (12) - Chisora UD
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko (12) - Mares UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan (12) Darchinyan EKO
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez (10) - Rodrigues UD
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Miguel Angel Cotto WUD
2. Brandon Rios WKO - Early
3. Alexander Povetkin WUD
4. Robert Helenius WKO - Late
5. Abner Mares WUD
B1. Anselmo Moreno WUD
B2. Pawel Wolak WUD
2. Brandon Rios WKO - Early
3. Alexander Povetkin WUD
4. Robert Helenius WKO - Late
5. Abner Mares WUD
B1. Anselmo Moreno WUD
B2. Pawel Wolak WUD
WelshDevilRob- Posts : 621
Join date : 2011-04-04
Location : Cardiff, Wales
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Sorry I'm late once again, Union!
1) Antonio Margarito, Late KO
2) Brandon Rios, Early KO
3) Alexander Povetkin, Unanimous Decision
4) Robert Helenius, Late KO
5) Abner Mares, Unanimous Decision
B1) Anselmo Morena, Unanimous Decision
B2) Pawel Wolak, Unanimous Decision
1) Antonio Margarito, Late KO
2) Brandon Rios, Early KO
3) Alexander Povetkin, Unanimous Decision
4) Robert Helenius, Late KO
5) Abner Mares, Unanimous Decision
B1) Anselmo Morena, Unanimous Decision
B2) Pawel Wolak, Unanimous Decision
88Chris05- Moderator
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Location : Nottingham
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
88Chris05 wrote:Sorry I'm late once again, Union!
Not a problem, others will be later I'm sure...
Union Cane- Moderator
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Miguel Cotto LKO
2. Brandon Rios LKO
3. Alexander Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius EKO
5. Abner Mares UD
b1. Anselmo Morena LKO
b2. Draw
2. Brandon Rios LKO
3. Alexander Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius EKO
5. Abner Mares UD
b1. Anselmo Morena LKO
b2. Draw
lfc91- Posts : 1498
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Age : 33
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Antonio Margarito EKO
Brandon Rios EKO
Alexander Povetkin UD
Robert Helenius LKO
Abner Mares UD
b1. Anselmo Morena LKO
b2. Pawel Wolak UD
Brandon Rios EKO
Alexander Povetkin UD
Robert Helenius LKO
Abner Mares UD
b1. Anselmo Morena LKO
b2. Pawel Wolak UD
PPVxHOTTY- Posts : 455
Join date : 2011-07-21
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Miguel Cotto UD
2. Brandon Rios LKO
3. Alexander Povetkin LKO
4. Robert Helenius EKO
5. Joseph Agbeko UD
B1. Vic Darchinyan UD
B2. Pawel Wolak UD
Cheers
2. Brandon Rios LKO
3. Alexander Povetkin LKO
4. Robert Helenius EKO
5. Joseph Agbeko UD
B1. Vic Darchinyan UD
B2. Pawel Wolak UD
Cheers
paperbag_puncher- Posts : 2516
Join date : 2011-02-25
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Cotto UD
2. Rios LKO
3. Povetkin UD
4. Helenius EKO
5. Agbeko UD
B1. Moreno UD
B2. Wolak UD
2. Rios LKO
3. Povetkin UD
4. Helenius EKO
5. Agbeko UD
B1. Moreno UD
B2. Wolak UD
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Cotto UD
2. Rios LKO
3. Povetkin UD
4. Chisora LKO (crazy but Chisora has weighed in at 17st 5lbs vs an 18st 9lbs version in his last fight against Fury).
5. Agbeko UD
B1. Moreno UD
B2. Draw
2. Rios LKO
3. Povetkin UD
4. Chisora LKO (crazy but Chisora has weighed in at 17st 5lbs vs an 18st 9lbs version in his last fight against Fury).
5. Agbeko UD
B1. Moreno UD
B2. Draw
All Time Great- Posts : 711
Join date : 2011-03-15
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Miguel Angel Cotto Pts UD
2. Brandon Rios KO Early
3. Alexander Povetkin Pts UD
4. Robert Helenius KO Late
5. Abner Mares Pts UD
B1. Vic Darchinyan KO Late
B2. Pawel Wolak Pts UD
2. Brandon Rios KO Early
3. Alexander Povetkin Pts UD
4. Robert Helenius KO Late
5. Abner Mares Pts UD
B1. Vic Darchinyan KO Late
B2. Pawel Wolak Pts UD
The Galveston Giant- Posts : 5333
Join date : 2011-02-23
Age : 39
Location : Scotland
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1 Cotto UD
2 Rios LKO
3 Povetkin UD
4 Helenius LKO
5 Mares Agbeko - Draw
B1 Darchinyan UD
B2 Wolak UD
2 Rios LKO
3 Povetkin UD
4 Helenius LKO
5 Mares Agbeko - Draw
B1 Darchinyan UD
B2 Wolak UD
Eyetoldyouso- Posts : 685
Join date : 2011-01-28
Age : 70
Location : Manchester
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Antonio Margarito LKO
2. Brandon Rios EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin LKO
4. Robert Helenius UD
5. Abner Mares UD
B1. Vic Darchinyan UD
B2. Pawel Wolak UD
2. Brandon Rios EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin LKO
4. Robert Helenius UD
5. Abner Mares UD
B1. Vic Darchinyan UD
B2. Pawel Wolak UD
The genius of PBF- Posts : 1552
Join date : 2011-06-03
Age : 47
Location : Las Vegas
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Miguel Angel Cotto v. Antonio Margarito (12) Cheato UD
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray (12) Rios UD
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell (12) Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora (12) Helenius LKO
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko (12) Mares UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan (12) Darch LKO
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez (10) Wolak UD
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray (12) Rios UD
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell (12) Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora (12) Helenius LKO
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko (12) Mares UD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan (12) Darch LKO
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez (10) Wolak UD
TopHat24/7- Posts : 17008
Join date : 2011-07-01
Age : 40
Location : London
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Sorry chaps, there's a bit of a delay this week.
Results will be up as soon as humanly possible.
Any complaints, please use the UCPL Lounge thread.
Results will be up as soon as humanly possible.
Any complaints, please use the UCPL Lounge thread.
Union Cane- Moderator
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Any complaints, please use the UCPL Lounge thread.
I was going to use the 'report to mod' button in all honesty.
coxy0001- Posts : 4250
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Location : Tory country
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Results are (finally) in!
Union Cane- Moderator
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
I'm so bad at this.
Scottrf- Posts : 14359
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Sweet!! Cheers Union!
Daz- Posts : 1265
Join date : 2011-01-26
Age : 44
Location : Preston
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
6oldenbhoy wrote:1. Miguel Angel Cotto v. Antonio Margarito: Margarito LKO
2. Brandon Rios v. John Murray: Rios EKO
3. Alexander Povetkin v. Cedric Boswell: Povetkin UD
4. Robert Helenius v. Dereck Chisora: Helenius UD
5. Abner Mares v. Joseph Agbeko: Agbeko SD
B1. Anselmo Moreno v. Vic Darchinyan: Moreno UD
B2. Pawel Wolak v. Delvin Rodriguez: Wolak UD
You miscalculated his score this week union...He scored 5 points instead of 7 so should be 13th not me.
The genius of PBF- Posts : 1552
Join date : 2011-06-03
Age : 47
Location : Las Vegas
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
im doomed doomed i tell ya!! shouldnt have messed around with my predictions would have done alright and had a chance after quite a low scoring week by majority
compelling and rich- Posts : 6084
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Location : Manchester
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Amir Khan UD
Roy Jones Jr UD
Ashley Theophane UD
Chris Edwards UD
Jose Salgado UD
Juan Carlos Salgado UD
Roy Jones Jr UD
Ashley Theophane UD
Chris Edwards UD
Jose Salgado UD
Juan Carlos Salgado UD
coxy0001- Posts : 4250
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Location : Tory country
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Wladimir Klitschko LKO
2. Amir Khan UD
3. Roy Jones Jr LKO
4. Ashley Theophane UD
5. Shinny Banyaar UD
B1. Jose Salgado EKO
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado LKO
2. Amir Khan UD
3. Roy Jones Jr LKO
4. Ashley Theophane UD
5. Shinny Banyaar UD
B1. Jose Salgado EKO
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado LKO
tommyhearnsprodigalson- Posts : 243
Join date : 2011-08-30
Age : 44
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Wladimir Klitschko Late KO
2. Amir Khan UD
3. Roy Jones Jr Jones Jr Early TKO
4. Ashley Theophane UD
5. Shinny Banyaar UD
B1. Jose Salgado Late TKO
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado UD
2. Amir Khan UD
3. Roy Jones Jr Jones Jr Early TKO
4. Ashley Theophane UD
5. Shinny Banyaar UD
B1. Jose Salgado Late TKO
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado UD
Valero's Conscience- Posts : 2096
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Age : 39
Location : Kent/London
KingMonkey- Posts : 1067
Join date : 2011-09-23
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Wladimir Klitschko EKO
2. Amir Khan UD
3. Roy Jones Jr EKO
4. Ashley Theophane UD
5. Shinny Banyaar SD
B1. Jose Salgado Late TKO
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado UD
2. Amir Khan UD
3. Roy Jones Jr EKO
4. Ashley Theophane UD
5. Shinny Banyaar SD
B1. Jose Salgado Late TKO
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado UD
Soldier_Of_Fortune- Posts : 4420
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Location : Liverpool JFT96 YNWA
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Poor showing last week, but still in contention. Good luck to everyone, as it's still wide open.
1. VOID
2. Amir Khan, KO, Late
3. Roy Jones Jr, Pts, UD
4. Ashley Theopane, Pts, UD
5. Shinny Banyaar, Pts, UD
B1. Jose Salgado, KO, Early
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado, KO, Late
1. VOID
2. Amir Khan, KO, Late
3. Roy Jones Jr, Pts, UD
4. Ashley Theopane, Pts, UD
5. Shinny Banyaar, Pts, UD
B1. Jose Salgado, KO, Early
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado, KO, Late
bhb001- Posts : 2675
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Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
2. Amir Khan - UD
3. Roy Jones Jr - UD
4. Ashley Theophane - UD
5. Chris Edwards - UD
B1. Jose Salgado - LKO
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado - LKO
3. Roy Jones Jr - UD
4. Ashley Theophane - UD
5. Chris Edwards - UD
B1. Jose Salgado - LKO
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado - LKO
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
1. Jean Marc Mormeck EKO
2. Amir Khan LKO
3. Max Alexander LKO
4. Ashley Theophane LKO
5. Shinny Banyaar SD
B1. Jose Salgado UD
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado LKO
2. Amir Khan LKO
3. Max Alexander LKO
4. Ashley Theophane LKO
5. Shinny Banyaar SD
B1. Jose Salgado UD
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado LKO
KingMonkey- Posts : 1067
Join date : 2011-09-23
Re: Union Cane's Prediction League - Season 3 - FINAL RESULTS!
Hey Union, I had a pretty shocking week just there hey! Hope this weeks predictions push me up that bloody table!
Cheers,
1. Wladimir Klitschko v. Jean Marc Mormeck - Klitshcko Wins EKO
2. Amir Khan v. Lamont Peterson - Khan Wins UD
3. Roy Jones Jr v. Max Alexander - Jones Wins UD
4. Ashley Theophane v. Nigel Wright - Theopane wins UD
5. Chris Edwards v. Shinny Banyaar - Banyaar wins LKO
B1. Jose Salgado v. Liborio Solis - Salgado wins LKO
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado v. Miguel Beltran Jr - Beltran wins SD
Cheers,
1. Wladimir Klitschko v. Jean Marc Mormeck - Klitshcko Wins EKO
2. Amir Khan v. Lamont Peterson - Khan Wins UD
3. Roy Jones Jr v. Max Alexander - Jones Wins UD
4. Ashley Theophane v. Nigel Wright - Theopane wins UD
5. Chris Edwards v. Shinny Banyaar - Banyaar wins LKO
B1. Jose Salgado v. Liborio Solis - Salgado wins LKO
B2. Juan Carlos Salgado v. Miguel Beltran Jr - Beltran wins SD
d260005p- Posts : 674
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Location : Telford
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