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Post by Driver Tue 08 Nov 2011, 12:25 pm

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Post by Driver Sun 04 Dec 2011, 7:42 pm

This weeks fixtures

HC - A

Castres vs Gloucester

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Racing Metro vs Sale Sharks

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Post by Driver Sun 04 Dec 2011, 7:46 pm

AM A

Bucharest Wolves vs Worcester Warriors

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Exeter Chiefs vs Toulon

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Bayonne vs Northampton Saints

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 04 Dec 2011, 8:35 pm

League table updated

Match threads will be up shortly.

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Post by stnick88 Sun 04 Dec 2011, 8:37 pm

garvey is solid but not spectacular in the lineout.
in the loose he is superb, his work rate is second to none and makes s hit loads of tackles.
one of the first names on the team shirt for irish for me.

robson is another one who has really impressed me.
wallace from quins is definitely a great prospect and i thought care had a good game today, more controlled than simpson.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 04 Dec 2011, 8:48 pm

Match threads are up.

Gutted with that result today stnick, thought we were the better side, and had we nailed all of our kicks we'd have won 16-15. LBP away at the champions is not a bad result at face valeue, but I think we've missed a real chance to take 4 points off them there.
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Post by stnick88 Sun 04 Dec 2011, 8:55 pm

we were the better side, fair play farrell played well for them.
corbisiero got a real going over from nieto but dermody and rautenbach did well when they came on.

we lacked a little spark in the backs and tagi or delon could have made a difference. ansbro was very quiet, spratt lively. hodgson dire. the difference hala'ufia makes is huge. not just his carries, but at the breakdown he cleans out well and allows us much quicker ball. love watching him run with ball in hand and just swot people off.

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Post by Driver Sun 04 Dec 2011, 11:01 pm

See Brendon Venter has a new job


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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 05 Dec 2011, 10:02 am

Heino match thread is fully updated with your opponents and weather conditions.

Will get the Amlin one done this evening hopefully.
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 05 Dec 2011, 1:45 pm

Looking for a good no10, a top no7 and potentially cover for the back three. These are the players I have available.

HK Chris Whitehead (E)
PR Juan Pablo Orlandi (ARG) (3)
PR Sakaria Taulafo (Samoa) (1)
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PR Ben Moon (E) (3)
PR Bob Baker (1 or 3)
LK Dave Attwood - (E) - ON LOAN TO SARRIES
FL Sione Kalamafoni (Tonga)
FL Liam Messam (NZ)
FL Alexander Lapandy (France)
FL/N8 Luke Watson (South Africa)
N8 Simon Taylor (Scotland)
N8 Ryan Kankowski (South Africa)
SH Charlie Davies (E)
SH Stuart Commins (SA/E)
FH/FB Danny Cipriani (E)
FH Lionel Beauxis (French)
CE/FB Shane Geraghty (E)
CE Matt Hopper (E)
CE Jean de Villiers (South Africa)
CE Willie Mason (Australia)
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FB Eerie Claasens (South Africa)

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 05 Dec 2011, 1:52 pm

Ps what do people make of Hooper, the new Quins outside centre, he seems to be scoring a lot at the moment whilst waiting for Lowe to recover from injury? I still havent seen him play!?

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 05 Dec 2011, 2:32 pm

Reddan's available
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 05 Dec 2011, 4:43 pm

Just watching Tigers/Saints game, great match.

Good to see Youngs looking crisp again and service looks swift, Foden electric from the back. Ashton needs sorting, his hair drag on Tuilagi was a disgrace tbh and then getting carried over the line by Matt Smith for opening score. Think he needs to concentrate on his own form rather than being a dcik

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 05 Dec 2011, 4:48 pm

Cole in great nick, really hammering Tonga!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 05 Dec 2011, 4:49 pm

You'll see some Ashton magic later on Pooly.

I thought Youngs was under performing in the game in parts. He seemed to be knocking on a lot.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 05 Dec 2011, 4:52 pm

Really Steve? Think he's having a stormer so far, swift delivery and making great snipes. Looks in cracking form.

I'm only just about to finish 1st half mind. 36 & Smith looking good.

Foden is so far ahead for England 15 jersey

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 05 Dec 2011, 4:55 pm

Foden never seems to stop improving.

People cited problems with his kicking a year or so ago and its very decent now. Occasionally he misses a tackle but thats the case for everyone.

What did you think of the brawl Pooly?? I thought Wood was unlucky, but see why Tuilagi went because he was throwing punches which were missing. Agulla should have seen yellow and Murphy should have seen red

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 05 Dec 2011, 5:00 pm

3 players could go onto become best players in world in position over the next few year in Foden, Youngs and Cole.

With you there on brawl Steve, was handbags from Tuilagi. Think Wood deserved yellow but Murphy worst culprit. Still can't get over Ashton pulling him out by hair!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 05 Dec 2011, 5:00 pm

Massive fan of Foden, Ashton not so much

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 05 Dec 2011, 5:01 pm

I liked that Ashton put himself about, but the hair pulling was cowardly.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 05 Dec 2011, 6:42 pm

Ashton had a good game, the opposition try and mark him out of it completely but he is such a good finisher and works brilliantly with Foden. By far best English wing.

He's a complete wind up merchant though, speaking to my friend who lives next door to the Saints owner over the weekend, he said that Ashton likes to be seen as a bit of a panto villain for some reason, getting booed by opposition fans makes him play better.

Was stupid to pull him by the hair, but it happens all the time in all honesty - usually a lot worse with some players known for grabbing other people's balls! Know what I'd prefer...

Wonder if any of them will get cited? Dont they have 48 hours for a citing to take place?

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Post by Guest Mon 05 Dec 2011, 7:06 pm

Youngs was a mixed bag throughout and knocked on and got caught. did some good stuff but played like somebody on his way back from injury.

How he did not have his leg broke at the end is a mystery, watch it pooly and you will be surprised. flood was good ball in hand although kicked terribly.

Lamb was mixed bag and Mafi and Salvi were excellent

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 05 Dec 2011, 7:10 pm

Care's been playing pretty well for Quins last few games, hopefully we can get him, Youngs and Simpson all on good form as they all offer something different for England.

Simpson again was one of WAsps only decent players yesterday, think he could offer something very special from the bench for England if he continues to develop. Probably the only Wasps player who should be anywhere near an England shirt though!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 05 Dec 2011, 7:19 pm

Yea Floods kicking wasnt great, only up to half time. Shot in a little Walking dead in between.

Not see Wasps game yet, to get Simpson on bench would need to drop Youngs or Care which won't happen I don't think.

Salvi was looking good at breakdown

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 05 Dec 2011, 9:57 pm

Ashton cited

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/8936509/Chris-Ashton-faces-two-week-ban-after-being-cited-by-RFU-for-tackle-on-Alesana-Tuilagi.html

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 05 Dec 2011, 10:02 pm

I've been bored...

https://www.606v2.com/t19641-aviva-premiership-2011-12-the-final-table#750516

Ashton should be cited, my two youngest daughters, aged 2 and 4 pull each others hair. There should be an offence of a rugby player behaving like a little girl, and he should get a long ban for it.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 05 Dec 2011, 10:51 pm

I have to say that if Ashton is cited then Murphy has to be as well. can't go throwing punches like that

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 06 Dec 2011, 7:25 am

Aguella should be as well, he threw in a couple of punches, as did Lawes. Tuilagi threw one punch, hope he doesnt get anything.

I always dread the Tigers v Saints game as I always lose 3-4 players through citings afterwards!

Think something needs to happen with a lot of the off the ball stuff - Murphy clearly took FOden out off the ball in the lead up to the winning try, cheating led to Tigers winning the game!

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Post by stnick88 Tue 06 Dec 2011, 9:32 am

how has Murphy not been cited?
Tuilagi has been cited which is ridiculous

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 06 Dec 2011, 9:46 am

Murphy threw the most punches by far and was the reason the ball boy was placed in danger. Can't believe that he hasnt been done. Ashton did a stupid thing and should get a 2 week ban, but Murphy really caused it to spark up e.g. his punches got Tom Wood to run in!

Agulla threw quite a few at Lawes, which probably wasnt the smartest thing to do...

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 06 Dec 2011, 12:30 pm

When are we finding our next batch of Injuries?

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Post by Driver Tue 06 Dec 2011, 12:49 pm

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 06 Dec 2011, 4:56 pm

Am really struggling for time due to work this week so if anyone is able to knock together the Amlin teams and post them on the match thread I would be extremely grateful, otherwise it might be late Thursday night before I am able to do it.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 06 Dec 2011, 7:15 pm

Ashton gets 4 weeks

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2070767/Chris-Ashton-gets-week-ban-Alesana-Tuilagi-brawl.html

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 06 Dec 2011, 7:25 pm

Thought he'd get two weeks for that! Cant believe Murphy got away without any action being taken against him - if you watch it, he throws so many punches - originally I thought Lawes threw a few, but he just went in and held Tuilagi - Murphy then caused everything to really kick off, he lands about 10 punches!

Did Wood get banned at all?

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Post by Driver Tue 06 Dec 2011, 7:45 pm

Wood and Tuilagi cleared

Horatio Agulla, Geordan Murphy and Courtney Lawes all issued with level 1 citings - equivalent of yellow cards
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Post by dammit_chris Tue 06 Dec 2011, 7:47 pm

He deserved a ban but 4 weeks is pretty excessive in my view - the citing panel and the bans they hand out is becoming a laughing stock. How that gets 4 weeks, whilst Rougerie clearly eye gouged McCaw in the WC final and got nothing.

Still if you are stupid enough to pull a 19 stone man's hair you deserve what you get. Just wish RFU would sort itself out. How Murphy escaped I will never know!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 06 Dec 2011, 7:57 pm

Rougerie was never cited Chris, think the footage came out post 72hr limit

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 06 Dec 2011, 9:21 pm

That's what I mean though Pooly, the whole citing process is a shambles - you had the BOD incident all that time ago on the Lions tour and Melaemu and Umaga both went out to injure BOD, and Rougerie did gouge McCaw - what's the difference in when the television footage emerges. Really frustrates me.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 07 Dec 2011, 11:18 am

What the plan with the Christmas period on here guys?

Games are scheduled for Boxing Day/New Years day...?

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Post by Driver Wed 07 Dec 2011, 11:32 am

They will go ahead with a bit of Lee way for prediction times
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 07 Dec 2011, 11:58 am

Really need him to have a good s15 season! Would do me no end of good in the back row...

http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12567/7356915/Reds-secure-Gill-deal

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 08 Dec 2011, 5:41 pm

Interesting that Andy Farrell has been picked in the England coaching set up - reckon that is a pretty big indication that Owen Farrell might be getting picked!

Lancaster has said he will be picking a host of new players. Hopefully will herald a new era for England.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 08 Dec 2011, 6:12 pm

Where did you read about the 'host of new players' Chris?

Only quote is saw was "The World Cup was enormously disappointing but we shouldn't forget that England won 10 out of 13 games this year and a Six Nations title," he said. "We have a promising group of players to go forward with and the challenge for Graham, Andy and myself is to get the best out of them."

Suggests not wholesale changes?

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 08 Dec 2011, 6:18 pm

The host of new players was for England and Saxons squads - reckon there will be quite a few new players in full squad though because players like Shaw, Moody, Haskell (12months) Wilkinson, Palmer, Tindall, Cueto, Thompson, Wigglesworth etc are probably unlikely to get picked again for various reeasons - that's space for nine new players straight away.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 08 Dec 2011, 7:47 pm

Falcons - Toulon on SS1

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 08 Dec 2011, 8:06 pm

Shiells is giving Hayman real problems, great performance so far in the scrum

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 08 Dec 2011, 8:10 pm

Pooly the commentators just said that Newcastle were struggling in the scrum and their best approach is to get the ball in and out quickly!?!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 08 Dec 2011, 8:15 pm

I just watched Shiells drive through Hayman twice and win a pen Chris. I thought we'd take a hammering in the scrum tbh but it's fairly equal, perhaps even shading to us.

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 08 Dec 2011, 8:19 pm

To be fair however much I hate to say it....Falcons aren't doing too badly here.
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 08 Dec 2011, 8:19 pm

think im watching a different game mate lol.

newcastle no9 looks good - hes from Gloucester isnt he?

winds stopping the game flow - cant understand why Toulon just dont kick the ball deep and pressurise newcastle!

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