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by pullthestrings Tue 07 Feb 2012, 4:45 pm

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Round 2 results have been announced.

Teams and Managers

AC Milan - Fisherunited	£4 mil
Arsenal - Macclads	£23.5 mil
Barcelona - Fluxy	£6 mil
Bayern Munich - TSC	£10.5 mil
Chelsea - Kamran	£18 mil
Inter Milan - Cor Blimey Guv'nor	£4.5 mil
Juventus - Cherriesfan	£22 mil
Liverpool - Football Crazy	£5 mil
Manchester City - Pullthestrings	£21.5 mil
Manchester United - Hodgey	£15 mil
Real Madrid - SuperPav9	£10 mil
Tottenham Hotspur - Y I Man	£8 mil

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by FIFA Diva Wed 08 Feb 2012, 4:29 pm

I may be one of the few but I think overall the German Football League is better then the English one including the top tier.

I love thier Football.

Hero I'm your assistant manager

by Hodgey Wed 08 Feb 2012, 4:30 pm

Can't believe people accusing Pull of cheating. Insane.

Also can't understand why people have come across from the other league to try and infringe on what Pull wants to do, just do your own thing on your own league. I particularly liked the 'lay down the law fam' comment though a few pages back.

Yikes

by Hodgey Wed 08 Feb 2012, 4:32 pm

One final point, does this mean I have fifth choice for teams?

by pullthestrings Wed 08 Feb 2012, 4:39 pm

Hodgey

Yes mate, you have 5th choice. Which side(s) would you prefer if you aren't about?

by **ADMIN** Wed 08 Feb 2012, 4:39 pm

I wasn't accusing him of cheating at all, I was saying that to show that there could be no question of cheating done then a PM'd system would leave no doubt for anyone.
Big difference.

by pullthestrings Wed 08 Feb 2012, 4:42 pm

pullthestrings wrote:The next thing to sort out is links, and I could do with a hand. Would people be able to volunteer to run one of the following pages:

League table - Cherries
Knockout Cup -
Top goalscorers - Cherries
Injuries - Pull
Press Releases -
Manager of the Month -

Any volunteers?

by Hodgey Wed 08 Feb 2012, 4:42 pm

Probably because you're 12th to pick?

How does it not leave doubt for anyone? A PM is exactly that, PRIVATE.

Erm in order of preference...

Madrid
Barca
Bayern
City
United
Spurs
Chelsea
Inter Milan
Arsenal
Milan
Liverpool
Juventus

by Hodgey Wed 08 Feb 2012, 4:44 pm

Oops, switch Milan and Arsenal.

by **ADMIN** Wed 08 Feb 2012, 4:49 pm

Hodgey wrote:Probably because you're 12th to pick?

How does it not leave doubt for anyone? A PM is exactly that, PRIVATE.

Because the way it would have worked is that two people pick the letters of the players and teams and PM their results to a neutral party beforehand.
Then they are posted on the page and the neutral person can verify that there has not been any tampering with them. Not exactly rocket science.

by **Afro** Wed 08 Feb 2012, 4:50 pm

Hodgey wrote:
How does it not leave doubt for anyone? A PM is exactly that, PRIVATE.

I think that is missing the point a bit.

And I don't think anyone is accusing Pull of cheating, (and in my experience he wouldn't).

But the point was that the two people who generated the two lists could have both PM'd them to a third person ahead of posting on here. That way the third person would be able to see that neither list had changed when they were posted.

Now Pull wouldn't have cheated, but had he done the PMs, then those that don't know him will be reassured and he would have saved the whole discussion.

by Hodgey Wed 08 Feb 2012, 4:51 pm

Why would they even tamper with them? It's only a game and Pull has done this hundreds of times before. For all you know, the three could come together and fiddle results in the PMs. At least here it's clear for everyone to see.

by Hodgey Wed 08 Feb 2012, 4:55 pm

Obviously my last point there about it being clear to see could be misconstrued but what I'm saying is the possibility of the three people fiddling with results is the same as the two. Low.

by cherriesfna Wed 08 Feb 2012, 4:57 pm

has anyone picker theuir tema yet?

by **Afro** Wed 08 Feb 2012, 4:58 pm

Hodgey wrote:Why would they even tamper with them?

In one of the rugby games, there's one runner who always ends up with the best team and on the occasion when he didn't, he decided to not take a team

Hodgey wrote:It's only a game and Pull has done this hundreds of times before.

I know that and you know that, but not everyone knows it, so it would just have been a reassurance for them.

Hodgey wrote:For all you know, the three could come together and fiddle results in the PMs. At least here it's clear for everyone to see.

And they would still have posted both lists on the page, so it would be equally as clear, just that 1 other person will know both lists ahead them going up. You are right, all 3 could collude and fix the list, but it is still more transparent than just posting on the main page.

Anyway, I wish you luck. I will keep a watchful eye without taking part and may the best team win

by **ADMIN** Wed 08 Feb 2012, 5:05 pm

It'd be wonderful if cheating didn't occur in these games, that everyone took it at face value.

But some people do.
Some set up more than one account, trade between teams to make one strong and then dump the poor team. Some politically vote on results not based on teams but just on who is in charge.

It happens and that's why any chance to be as open as possible is in my opinion always the best method.

by Hodgey Wed 08 Feb 2012, 5:10 pm

I've been around these games for ages mate so I know what happens. I've been in countless leagues yet I've only seen cheating like that in one or two.

by The Special Juan Wed 08 Feb 2012, 5:14 pm

Right I'll be about later tonight, if teams get picked whilst I'm away then I'll take Bayern Munchen Smile

Laters

by **ADMIN** Wed 08 Feb 2012, 5:17 pm

Hodgey wrote:I've been around these games for ages mate so I know what happens. I've been in countless leagues yet I've only seen cheating like that in one or two.

That you know of.
As site owner I get PMs galore of suspected account sharing for this very purpose, and in several cases its been proven. As league runner I also see the results coming in and it's quickly apparent when patterns emerge on votings.

by pullthestrings Wed 08 Feb 2012, 5:22 pm

I think I've PM'ed you about a certain Blogs before Hero! In all seriousness, we have a decent group of managers here and a bit of a waiting list so should be good. Cheating will absolutely not be tolerated, as you'd expect.

Will be interesting to see the differences in rating of players, the FL managers will put a different slant on this league than we're used to traditionally.

If Fluxy comes on before 6, let him choose, otherwise:

1. Barca
2. Real
3. City
4. Bayern
5. United
6. Fishers choice.

Will be on later chaps.

by The Special Juan Wed 08 Feb 2012, 6:36 pm

Does this mean I am Bayern then?

by **ADMIN** Wed 08 Feb 2012, 6:41 pm

Look that way!

by The Special Juan Wed 08 Feb 2012, 6:52 pm

Boom! Get in Mario!

by SuperPav9 Wed 08 Feb 2012, 6:59 pm

Still no Fluxy Whistle

Think he should drop down the pecking order 1 place for every hour he isn't on from now. censored

Gimmie 1st pick Run

by Guest Wed 08 Feb 2012, 7:19 pm

Regarding foreign transfers, do we need to give a reason or just detail who we want?
Are foreign transfers realistic, or complete fantasy as long as the cash is available?

by pullthestrings Wed 08 Feb 2012, 7:23 pm

I know, not sure where he is Headscratch

We're waiting on Fisher now so will give Fluxy a chance to show up.

For transfers, no reason is needed, just the player and cash bid. No part exchanges.

Fantasy - based on the cash bid rather than which team the player goes to.

by pullthestrings Wed 08 Feb 2012, 7:25 pm

Please also note the following

TRANSFER LIMITS:

Barcelona, Real Madrid - 1 per week
Chelsea, Manchester City, Bayern Munich - 2 per week
AC Milan, Arsenal, Inter Milan, Manchester United - 3 per week
Juventus, Liverpool, Tottenham - 4 per week.

by Guest Wed 08 Feb 2012, 7:28 pm

Cheers mate, should be interesting.
Regarding the post you just made, im assuming that is for foreigns rather than domestics?

In other news, Capello has just resigned

by pullthestrings Wed 08 Feb 2012, 7:28 pm

Yeah, for foreigns.

Wow.

by **ADMIN** Wed 08 Feb 2012, 7:32 pm

In regards to the 4 per week, is that over the course of the week or could I do them all on one day?

by pullthestrings Wed 08 Feb 2012, 7:43 pm

erm... it's 4 per week, running from Monday to Monday. Do them when you like!

by The Special Juan Wed 08 Feb 2012, 7:44 pm

What's the next steps? Set up a page with our whole team on it?

by **ADMIN** Wed 08 Feb 2012, 7:44 pm

So I could get stick them all in on the first day if I wished?
Sweet.

by pullthestrings Wed 08 Feb 2012, 7:53 pm

Yes mate, create a page for your team. Use wikipedia.. Max squad size 25.

Loans should be honoured - if they are out on loan you cannot include them, if they are in on loan you can.

by Guest Wed 08 Feb 2012, 7:57 pm

Come on Fisher! Itching to start haha

by The Special Juan Wed 08 Feb 2012, 8:01 pm

Right good stuff. I'll get on that very shortly.

by **ADMIN** Wed 08 Feb 2012, 8:01 pm

Going on prices Fisher will have Chavski, Nadeem and Kamram to have the Milans, you get arsenal though I reckon you'd pick Spurs, cherry gets the other, FC gets Juve and I get the scousers

by Fisherunited Wed 08 Feb 2012, 8:01 pm

Sorry didnt realise you were waiting on me.

Erm AC Milan please Pull

by Guest Wed 08 Feb 2012, 8:03 pm

Nadeem you are up!

by Fernando Wed 08 Feb 2012, 8:03 pm

Fisherunited wrote:Sorry didnt realise you were waiting on me.

Erm AC Milan please Pull

Which means he's been sat for the last 15 minutes with a his feet up watching people get tetchy waiting thumbsup

by nadeem2099 Wed 08 Feb 2012, 8:07 pm

Inter please.

by pullthestrings Wed 08 Feb 2012, 8:07 pm

Nice one Fisher.

by Guest Wed 08 Feb 2012, 8:08 pm

Kamran!

by Fisherunited Wed 08 Feb 2012, 8:19 pm

kamran is only ever on daytimes...

by pullthestrings Wed 08 Feb 2012, 8:29 pm

Who do you think he'd want Fisher?

by Fisherunited Wed 08 Feb 2012, 8:38 pm

Arsenal i would have thought, but you never know. Anyone but Spurs laughing

by pullthestrings Wed 08 Feb 2012, 8:44 pm

OK, we'll wait for him. Y I, 2 preferred teams?

by Guest Wed 08 Feb 2012, 8:50 pm

If kamran wouldn't take Spurs I would

by Hodgey Wed 08 Feb 2012, 9:04 pm

Kam said he'd love to manage Liverpool... Whistle

by The Special Juan Wed 08 Feb 2012, 9:05 pm

Hodgey wrote:Kam said he'd love to manage Liverpool...

by Guest Wed 08 Feb 2012, 9:12 pm

If its a guarantee that Kam wont take Spurs, can I take them and get the page up? (Im out all of tomorrow morning and dont want to hold up the other pickers)

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