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Jonny May.......outstanding

That lad has to be in England setup

Think in the Scotland and Italy games it was the England bench which made the difference, today the bench had the opposite effect. Lawes and Youngs were clearly desperate to make an impact and neither did that, Lawes should of shifted the ball instead of looking for the big carry. Stevens should know better, perhaps time to look to someone like Marler to come off the bench, gain some experience.

Just caught up with the game brilliant game to watch. Thought Strettle had got that but decision was fair enough as it was fairly inconclusive. Cant see how Lawes can be blamed for what was really just a piece of brilliance from Williams on the turnover especially since Lawes played so well coming on.

Great performance from the halfbacks and Barritt was immense at 12. Morgan and Foden very strong as well. Thought Lawes apart from he try was fantastic when he came on.

Robshaw was overshadowed a little but still have doubts on the Croft/Robshaw axis and think Robshaw/Wood would work better. Youngs was attrocious. Hes effectively playing himself out of the team at the moment. Flood was a bit rusty but played alright.

Great team performance overall and some leasons will be learnt by what is one of the least experienced England sides sent out in the last 10-15 years. Gives us something to look forward too for the rest of the tournament and onwards

Farrell was much better than I thought he'd be, told you he was a 10 Chris

Check out May's try for Gloucester if you can

Not sure what Flood did wrong...?

Thought Morgan and Croft were excellent.Robshaw just doesn't have a big enough impact on the game for me. If Wood is fit i'd drop Robshaw.

Thought Lawes impacted the game really well. Tough to blame him for the try really - other than that he really showed up when he came on.

Can't see Youngs playing again till the summer - he looks nervous and worried - let him play for Leicester and get his form back. Thought Dickson did ok bar some stupid penalties at scrums.

Corbs got battered by Jones but not many who don't really.

Youngs looked worse today than the other 2 games, I'd send him back to Tigers. Think you sold me a dud Luke!

Thought Lawes played really well but a second row shouldnt be stripped in contact by a centre.

Robshaw I disagree, thought he carried well in the tight and does the 6 work than Croft doesn't. Croft played well though, be good having Wood back to challenge them.

Parling/Croft were excellent in lineout, Parling made a few mistakes but for a first start was steady.

The Stevens/Hartley errors were plain stupid, both been told to get hands off from the ref. Stevens should be nowhere near England side, poor in the scrum and liability in loose. Hartley played well though I thought.

Farrell kinda blew me away, brought more to the park than I thought he had. Ashton not great again, love to see Sharples or May brought in and Foden is really close to losing his place with his poor form.

Feel pretty good going forward, think we can take Ireland.

My issue with Flood is that he can't manage or dictate an international game properly, he lacks the mental toughness of Wilkinson (or Farrell for that matter). I've never liked him as an international, great club player though - when Farrell was replaced our backline lost a lot of shape.

Youngs can't be in the 22 for the next game, he has to go back and play for Leicester find his form and confidence again, he looks lost at the moment - two bad passes and decisions led to Wales getting a penalty and the try.

Robshaw isnt close to being an international no7 by a long shot, Warburton dominated him from the first minute. He could get shifted over to no6, but don't think you can drop Croft - would want to see Wood given a go, again think Robshaw is a class club player, but need to see a lot more from him as a no7.

I'd drop Stevens, Dowson (anyone see him do anything?) and Youngs from the match day 22 - drop Botha and Ashton to the bench, maybe even drop Ashton from the 22 altogether.

Thought the Barritt and Tuilagi midfield worked well - would like to see more from Barritt in offence though, thought Parling had a good game but was very impressed with Cole, Corbs and Hartley's work at the breakdown, they got so many turnovers it was untrue!

Turning point of the game was when we lost our halfbacks.

But at least some good news for Wasps...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/17105905

Drop Botha? He was quality today. Only contribution Hartley made at the breakdown was to give away penalties.

What did Youngs have to do with the Welsh try? Did we watch the same game???

We lost no shape with Flood at 10, we came close to scoring a try.

Warburton absolutely phenominal. Bit of a shocker from Priestland all round.

Thought Tuilagi was very good and was the star in the midfield. Foden lost a bit of his zip. I also thought Strettle was outstanding.

I am not convinced with the Barrit/Tuilagi midfield in the long run. Tuilagi to 12 with Joseph/May etc at 13 with farrell or Flood at 10.

Was pleased with Dickson, thought he was decent.

Strettle has slammed the officials over his try - said he grounded it. Really couldn't believe it wasn't given.

A good game Lancaster is an idiot why take off Dickson he
Made substituitions for substitutions sake. Youngs poor. England lack ball carriers and could not keep the ball. Parling did well however he cannot carry and neither can Botha so we have only morgan carrying

Think our locks did not make 1 metre

There are issues around some of the individuals in the team, but I thought it was a much improved all round performance Mat.

I really think that England need somebody like Matt Garvey in the second row. He is a heavy carrier with a fantastic work rate and regularly tops the tackle count.

He is not the most athletic in the lineout, but can be used as a front jumper for banker ball in the same way that Brad Thorn and Bakkies Botha have been used for years.

Just looking through ESPN stats and Botha made 6m & Parling 2m, not great.

On the flip side Parling made 19 tackles (most on pitch) & 2 turnovers (most for England)

Backrow all made good yards, around the 30m mark. Lawes made 22m

I agree with you Pete - reckon if you had Garvey and Llawes in second row you could get away with Croft, Wood and Morgan backrow.

I like Botha and Parling as players, both great work rates and tackle counts but you need more than that at this level. 8 metres gaine in total is lame.

Similar to how I view Barritt and Robshaw - barritts defence is immense, but to be a top class team again we need our 12 to threaten the gain line far more. Robshaw again I like but again he lacks attributes to be top class. We need to find a no7 - Wood is a better bet than Robshaw but long term we need someone like Wallace to fulfill his potential

I wish Dickson had a bit more zip about him in attack, great passer and got us moving but would like to see him run a bit more. We really need Youngs to find his form, as he could be best no9 in the world.

League table updated.

Getting tight for home semis, play off spots, Heineken Cup spots and the relegation dogfight.

Every game is a big game with something on it from now to the end of the season.

Garvey & Lawes would never work as neither lead the line.

Did you not notice how strong & the fast ball we got off the lineout yesterday? It's because we had a lock who knows how to lead a line.

Your comments make me laugh

I disagree Pooly, Garvey and Lawes could work as long as you have Croft and Wood as your flankers, as that gives you enough options in the lineout with one of Croft or Wood calling it.

Pooly pretty sure croft and wood could do a job with leading the line out - Lawes is a good line out jumper and like Pete said Garvey a good option at the front.

Pete did you see Catts comments about JJ during the week? Best youngster he has ever seen - how high do you rate him?

Neither call for clubs. It's a big step up being a good lineout option to calling the line and reading opposition throw. Neither Lawes nor Garvey could do this yet.

Wood has regularly called the lineout for Saints, i don't see an issue with him calling it for England.

When we have a good lineout you always get comments about changing the lineup of the team. As soon as this is done and our lineout falls apart people call for a lineout expert?!?!

I've never seen Wood lead a lineout I must admit. Day or Sorenson has always done it when I've watched Saints

With regards to turnovers I saw Dan Cole make two brilliant ones at the breakdown. very impressive.

Dickson bought more zip to our play than anyone has besides Care at his best. Tempo so much quicker with him on.

I watched the game again this morning and saw Cole take 3, possibly 4 turnovers - incredible work rate from him. Was very impressed.

Think I used the wrong word when describing Dickson, he gets the whole team moving very well and playing at a tempo - just realyl want to see if he can develop a bit more of a running game. Thought he was very good.

Pooly - look at is this way if a team sees that you have a far superior lineout then they will look to keep the ball infield and limit the number of lineouts. You can't limit the number of rucks and mauls you get in a game and our second row of Parling and Botha is far too lightweight, with only Morgan being a real go to man.

If you can get Croft of Wood to become a lineout leader, I dont see why either couldnt then you can get two grafting second rows and work on getting quicker ball for our backline - between Lawes, Croft, Wood and Morgan it isnt as if we would lack for lineout jumpers and the Lawes/Wood/Hartley combo could work very well, espc as we dont really have any challengers for Hartley leading to 2015.

Did anyone notice Dowson do anything when he came on yesterday?

You don't just "become" a top draw lineout specialist. It's more than just making a few calls. It's about interpreting the opposition. The lineout is massive for generating fast clean ball.

Do you think Matfield was in the SA team for his carrying?

I know you don't know much about the set piece but a solid scrum and lineout is vital to becoming a top team. Being able to disrupt the opposition is also huge in slowing down attacking play

Lineout and turnover are 2 best attacking ball. You need a lineout specialist. However you can't play Botha and Parling as neither carries. That's why an inform palmer works as he is a good ball player and lineout. Wood leads lineout and is great.

At moment robshaw can't be dropped as doing well same as barrit so how do you get balance? Has to be lawes and Parling on form despite me thinking Parling is a club player. Times gave Parling 6 out of ten and said odd selection of player not first choice for his club???????!!?!!?!!!!!!?????

Mat could you go for something like Garvey, Lawes, Croft and Wood in the future, with another lineout specialist on the bench? I think we need more grunt in the team, as Parling and Botha was so lightweight, every time Botha carried the ball he got picked up or knocked back and that shouldnt be happening.

I agree that you can't drop Robshaw or Barritt at present, but long-term neither are solutions for England if we want to become a top international team again.

Did see Stephen Jone's player ratings - some really odd ones again from him. Like Stuart Barnes and Dallagio's comments though, both made a lot of sense.

Farrell definitely well ahead of Flood now in the pecking order - good option on the bench though, espc if we need to attack a bit more.

See that Quade Cooper has been singing Cipriani's praises - be good when he comes back as bit more competition for the no10 shirt.

England's best rugby has been played with the second row of Lawes, Palmer, Croft, Easter as the main lineout men.

I don't think you need anyone to run a lineout just pick the man best suited from a pack. Parling should be picked on merit and his value to the side in terms of lineout jumping and loosework as a second row. Not because he can call.

I particularly find it garbage people saying that so and so can't run a lineout just because you haven't seen him do it. If POC was a Saffer and Blue Bull like Botha has been you'd all be shouting how he can't run a lineout because Matfield would do it ahead of him.

I'm with Steve there.

Teams probley set the scenario in training and work hard at them and probley know what there going to do before they get there

Watching Bulls v Sharks. Kruger having a great first 25 mins. He was a class act at Saints, really regretted selling him to Pooly initially and might be doing the same now.

Zane Kirschner is the most infuriaiting player to watch!

He got Motm Steve, great game. Shows the merit of a proper lineout forward. I've had to wait 18mnth for him to get some form!!!

Apparently Dean Richards was going to come to Sale as DOR (above Tony Hanks but below Steve Diamond) but he has pulled out and is now going to Falcons.

Cipriani needs to seriously iron out his flaws before even being considered for the Saxons. Lacks defence, game management and a brain at the minute.

If you get picked on for your defence in S15 you know you have issues

Just seen the AP table. Irish really have to win today!

We won't mate

Cipriani's actually got very good game management - its his side on tackles that he has to sort out.

Do agree with you Steven about the lineouts, reckon Wood or Croft could easily grow into the role, not as if they lack experience!

Top 4 will not change Gloucester in 5th does that mean hc!?

To be fair, that's the best i've seen England play for a while! Glad Wales won though but it really could have gone either way. There's probably been some chat about the Robshaw pull down so I won't say much!!

Well Cips does a good job of hiding it to be fair, he's such a flakey flyhalf and the complete opposite of Farrell.

Lineout is a specialist skill to be top draw at, no doubt Wood/Croft could lead one but would they be any good with POC etc breathing down their neck? I don't know as they've not done it.

It's a little like saying Homer should play FH as he kicks goals and FH can't be that hard to learn.

Tagicakibau is pure class

What a try from Ross Chisholm last night!

We have seriously missed Losi for most of this season stnick. He gives us so much momentum and ties in defenders creating gaps for others.

Check out Mays Steve

Seen it but was more impressed by Chisholms. We all know what May can do, but Chisholm outpaced May after an outside break, we didn't know he could do that.

We have dominated Saints for 40 minutes here, and the fact that we only go in 18-11 up concerns me a bit!

Samson doIng his best to lose us this game

We do appear to be trying to throw the game away at the moment!

Myler's passing has been brilliant. Not watched all the 2nd half as have had Arsenal v Spurs on but seems a good game

Great win for saints.