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Gloucester	Prop
Harlequins	Driver
Leicester Tigers	Pooly
London Irish	Pull
London Wasps	Nick
Newcastle Falcons	Flux
Northampton Saints	Johnny
Sale Sharks	Ollie
Saracens	Luke
Worcester Warriors	ITFL

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Half the asking price.......so 0.5m? Bet you're regretting that sneaking sale now!

haha only messing

that was a special offer for you only mate

for everyone else he was 20 mil!

Haha, thanks mate, I should have bid 1m and then taken the 10m retirement fund, that's the kind of investment that Warren Buffett can dream of! 1000% ROI within a few hours! Damnit

Just a general question to raise some opinions guys. What do people generally think of Dan Lydiate? Hes a fantastic man for the tackle count and leading the defence but offers nothing on attack really. For me he is this generations Joe Worsley! He works in the Welsh backrow because Warburton and Falateu are so well rounded but would he look as good in the English backrow currently. Im not so sure.

I ask this as I was reading a thread on here last night where a Welsh poster stated Ferris would not currently get into the Welsh backrow over Dan Lydiate. On current form Ferris is probably the best BS in the world and is better at all facets of the game then Lydiate. I just can't see the attraction to Lydiate. If I were picking a Lions side Ferris/Croft/SOB would all get in before him for me anyways

What do you guys think?

Think he is a very good player with the best years ahead of him and i agree with you that the wales back row is much greater than the sum of its parts because it has such great balance. Ferris is a beast, wouldn't have many 6s ahead of him in the world to be honest. Dusatoir and Burger are a strong shout, but more like 6.5s and Kaino now injured of course.

Back row all about balance, think England have some real talent in Morgan Wood Robshaw Croft Haskell, but all very similar and therefore, not a great unit as such.

6s
Ferris
SOB
Croft
Lydiate

Back rows as a whole
NZ
Wales
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Ireland
France
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England
Scotland

Im just of the opinion if you take Warburton out of that Welsh back row then it falls apart. He is such a well rounded player. When it comes to out and out poaching McCaw/Brussow/Pocock all ahead but as an allround 7 only McCaw betters him. He allows Lydiate to get away with just tackling and tackling and more tackling. If you put Joe Worsley into that Welsh backrow would it perform any different? Was Worsely ever seen as this great world beater? Not by the welsh anyway who gave him an awful slagging just find it quite funny to be honest now

I read the same thread SJE and I could see both sides of the argument.

Ferris is a better player than Lydiate and is definitely 100% a better ball carrier. I do however think that Lydiate is underated by some, his workrate is phenomenal. Individually, Warburton is the only Welsh back row forward that would walk into the English, Irish, French or even Italian back row.

However, the Welsh back row as a unit have just clicked for whatever reason. Would Ferris work as well in the unit? Or would his different game take away from what Warburton and Faletau do? There is unlikely to ever be a conclusive answer to that question unless the Lions back row is Ferris, Warburton, Faletau, and then we will see.

I can see why Welsh posters would say they would not take Ferris over Lydiate right now, as like I said the Welsh back row as a unit, works as well if not better than any other back row in the world right now.

All interesting chats, I'm potentially thinking about back row for my next foreign. Not sure to go for a big 6 to play alongside Louw or a beast of an 8 to control things and play Fearns at 6

We all know you want Gorgodze Bathite

SOB?

I'm undecided who I need next. Might go for Pienaar, helpful to have someone who can play 9 and 10.

It's just about balance.

It's an issue I see with some teams on other AP game sometimes. 3 big carrying back rowers although world class isn't always the answer.

Funny how managers from other AP game sign the same players

if you know they get rated well Pooly, then it seems a sensible option.

Pete got BDP as he always gets rated well. likewise you with JOC.

Why change what you know Nick lol

I agree with what Pete said, Ferris overall is a better 6. However I think if you put him into the Welsh backrow he'd struggle a little because he'd be quite similar in the job that Faletau offers for Wales. But maybe Ferris offers a little more ball carrying out wide.

I've always looked at combinations in the backrow, I like teams that put out a good balance with the archetypal plays in particular positions. But if the backrow was collection of players in the mould of the so called 6.5's where they could all do the jobs of a backrow unit, I wouldn't mark it down as such, so along as they've trained together and well implemented in the tactics.

Predo's due by 2000hrs boys

whats my compensation for rees pooly?
stop ignoring me!

I'll get back to you on that mate

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:We all know you want Gorgodze Bathite ;)

Gorgodze, forgotten about him again! Not sure if he would be rated highly enough on here though to be honest. Gutted about Schalk Burger's injury, I would have been tempted with him, so consistent and physical. More gametime for Willem Alberts though I guess, especially with Smith always injured.

Last foreign of the season, got to make sure I get it right. Also bit concerned that during 3Ns I might lose 3 key players each week!

Juan Smith is back round 7 I think

Needs a real run of games though, probably until the end of the season to get his ratings back in my book

Oh and where's arry gone? Made loads of enquiries, now disappeared!

think he is still in school so might not have access during the daytime

the 3N now makes it less tempting to go for SH players. wont they miss the first 2/3 months of the season?

Starts mid August till the 1st week of October Nick (I think). Then there's the autumn internationals. Overall they miss about the same time as 6 nations players so its all about squad balance really

Just watching Brumbies/Cheetahs, great running rugby from both. Brussow is in awsome form at the minute. Just causes so much damage at breakdown, seems to have adapted to the rules better than Pocock

Just a quick question, how are people going to rate Kaino? He hasn't exactly been in bad form before his injury.

He keeps rating for a while yet Flux, don't just lose rating because you got injured last week.

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I'll still rate Kaino very highly, only been overtaken by Ferris. Think Kaino will still hold ratings for the rest of this season for me, but after that it will drop off I reckon

I don't think Ferris gets anywhere near Kaino personally

He does at the moment

Not for me he doesn't

We sound like the chuckle brothers! to me........to you

Both would be about the right age for it...

For the last time.....i'm no way near Pooly's age! I'm closer to yours Flux

The Northern Falcons - might be getting a new stadium Flux!

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/north_east/darlington_williamson.shtml

http://www.rugbynetwork.net/boards/read/s95.htm?97,12955758

Be surprised if it happened. Nice stadium though, mate lives round the corner

Shame it's got a gash football team occupying it.

They want to move down our neck of the woods because besides Blaydon and Tynedale were the hot bed of Rugby Union in the North east.


1.Graham Rowntree
2.?????
3.Micky Ward
4.Tom Palmer
5.Geoff Parling
6.Tom Croft
7.Phil Dowsen
8.????

9.Micky Young
10.Toby Flood
11.Rory Underwood
12.Jamie Noone
13.Matt Tait
14.John Bently
15.James Simpson-Daniel

Crane and Danny Care aswell

Oh god, you're going to start a regional best XVs debate now!

Haha may as well be Northern Falcons, not exactly close to many other teams.

I'm going to struggle for a regional XV I reckon!

Just a colston college team would be pretty useful to be honest!

"Colston's went on a 14-year undefeated home run against English teams, from 1994 until Hartpury College won in 2008."

Mears, Barkley, Delve, Crane, Varndell and plenty others I can't remember

On current form I'd have Ferris best in the world right now! Hence I signed him!! Him and Kaino are a class above everyone else at BS at the moment. Would have Juan Smith up there too but lack of game time is a killer

Kaino will be fine the rest of the season Flux mate. Will still get a world class rating from me. Could struggle for form come the autumn internationals next season though unless he makes it back for them

Didn't realise Ferris was only 26! Scary thought, I had him down as 30 odd

These "best in world" tags come and go with whoever is having Int comps (6n/4n).

Kaino was excellent in WC & Ive seen nothing to suggest Ferris is better than that so unable to put him up there. I rate Ferris highly but until he proves himself against the SH sides I don't think he deserves the "best" tag tbh.

On a side note, what's happened to Heaslip over the years?? Seems to have really dropped off.

I'v knocked up Aviva round 2 thread in case Fluxy struggles to get on much this week

Cup tables are updated. Will be knocking the tries difference as a tie breaker on the head as I havent the time to do scorers. Today is my last day in work before my coming nuptials so wont be around for the next week and a half or so from this evening onwards

You getting nervous SJE?? Still time to pull out mate

Her father already has the shot gun out so theres no getting away from this one!!

Haha....unlucky mate.

My invite seems to have been held up in the post?!?!

I notice that there are 3 pools in the cup, is it the winners of each pool and the best 2nd placed team that go through to the semi?