The Official 2013 Wales v England bickering thread.

by HERSH Sun 26 Feb - 8:40

First topic message reminder :

2013 bickering thread

OK, every year we see threads that actually contain really good rugby discussion derailed by the ongoing Wales vs England bickering and WUMMING! I will name no names. I guess we have all been guilty.

Since most of the general bickering comes from the respective fans of Wales and England ; I thought I would create a thread for it in an effort to keep decent rugby discussion relatively WUM free in other threads.

Let it commence

by EnglishReign Tue 15 Jan - 19:36

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:He qualifies through residency. Surely an England supporter doesn't need the residency rules explained to him?

Don't take offence, just bickering as prompted to.

by Guest Tue 15 Jan - 20:13

VictorU3 wrote:Too close to call this year.

France, England and Ireland all have a real chance, Wales might make an appearance but they're beginning to look a little light due to injuries to make a serious challenge for 6 nation glory.

So you're saying whoever wins, it will be a devalued 6 Nations anyway, as Wales are developing for the future (due to injuries) and Scotland have a new coaching setup. I wonder how light we will be, if you beat us in Cardiff Hershy boy?

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 16 Jan - 7:48

EnglishReign wrote:
Luckless Pedestrian wrote:He qualifies through residency. Surely an England supporter doesn't need the residency rules explained to him?

Don't take offence, just bickering as prompted to.

No offence taken, I was just bickering back! Wink

by Scrumpy Wed 16 Jan - 10:03

Risca Rev wrote:
VictorU3 wrote:Too close to call this year.

France, England and Ireland all have a real chance, Wales might make an appearance but they're beginning to look a little light due to injuries to make a serious challenge for 6 nation glory.

So you're saying whoever wins, it will be a devalued 6 Nations anyway

I don't think I said that at all!

by Guest Wed 16 Jan - 10:12

Why so serious Hersh?

by Effervescing Elephant Wed 16 Jan - 10:14

Vic this is a bickering thread, you're being too reasonable. get naaaaaasty!!! Very Happy

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 16 Jan - 10:16

Yeah Vic, you silly sausage.

by Scrumpy Wed 16 Jan - 10:18

Some people on this site are really paranoid! laughing

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 10:18

haha, naughty Risca being tongue in cheek with Victor. Definitely not HERSH's style, so Victor is definitely just an innocent Bath bystander. Back to 6N rugby, yes it feels pretty close run thing at the top. England are on an upward curve, but will find Dublin a huge challenge, always has been in recent years. Away in Cardiff could be difficult if Wales can rediscover their Mojo, and nothing like a white shirt in front of them to help them find that elusive ingredient. I do not feel to bad about France at Twickenham. France have huge talent available but I have seen England's ability to shut that down home & away in recent years. So long as England do not doze off on the job, then France's talent should be contained for an England win.

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 16 Jan - 10:23

gregortree wrote:England are on an upward curve... away in Cardiff could be difficult if Wales can rediscover their Mojo, and nothing like a white shirt in front of them to help them find that elusive ingredient.

I don't know about that, Gregor. If anything, on a mental level, playing against England causes us to struggle. The fear of losing is stronger. In an ideal world we'd treat it as just another game, but it never is, and probably never will be.

by Effervescing Elephant Wed 16 Jan - 10:25

Just like to add that i don't believe Vic is Hersh as i haven't noticed any of Hersh's spelling idiosyncrasies. Also he hasn't Wummed anyone and has been nice to Welsh people!

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 10:33

Luckless, yes I can see both sides of that point.
The old England had difficulties with both Ireland in Dublin and with Wales in Cardiff. Not sure when we last won in Cardiff.
But hoping this not to be false new confidence, I believe we have seen a new England attitude against the top 2 sides in recent match ups, which I hope carries to the 6n. The England / Wales respective psycholgies, with the Cardiff factor too, well I think it is fascinatingly difficult to call at the moment.

by RubyGuby Wed 16 Jan - 10:37

Surely with the current Grand Slam champions so depleted by injuries this has to be an opportunity for the other nations to try and claim a GS of their own. It might be a devalued one but it would be a welcome one all the same given the barren years of the last decade for a lot of teams who aspire to greater things. Good luck to all of you this season thumbsup

by Cyril Wed 16 Jan - 10:47

Are Wales the worst 'Grand Slam Champions' ever seeing as they haven't won in about a year?

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 10:51

Ruby, I though all GSs are devalued ? ....except when it is Wales Wales

I am confident that an England / Ireland slam will be instantly devalued before the players even get out of the bath.

by Guest Wed 16 Jan - 10:55

Effervescing Elephant wrote:Just like to add that i don't believe Vic is Hersh as i haven't noticed any of Hersh's spelling idiosyncrasies. Also he hasn't Wummed anyone and has been nice to Welsh people!

His spelling is fine now, but there's one mistake he always makes that gives him away. I don't mind Hershy being back. He's a better character than GG/AWOP/TPV

by RubyGuby Wed 16 Jan - 10:56

The only thing Ireland are going to slam is the BUFFERS thumbsup

by Cyril Wed 16 Jan - 10:59

I can see Ireland putting a big score on Wales this year.

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 11:13

I do not think Vic is HERSH. Just a Bath man.
Vic is understated, polite, lacking ascerbic little digs or hiddebn sarcasms.
Does that sound like HERSH?

by Jimpy Wed 16 Jan - 11:15

Risca Rev wrote:
Effervescing Elephant wrote:Just like to add that i don't believe Vic is Hersh as i haven't noticed any of Hersh's spelling idiosyncrasies. Also he hasn't Wummed anyone and has been nice to Welsh people!

His spelling is fine now, but there's one mistake he always makes that gives him away. I don't mind Hershy being back. He's a better character than GG/AWOP/TPV

And the fact that HERSH has to make an effort to behave, otherwise he'll be banned again.

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 16 Jan - 11:15

Cyril on 606v2 wrote:I can see Ireland putting a big score on Wales this year.

But then they'll roll over for you in Dublin, of course.

by Cyril Wed 16 Jan - 11:17

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
Cyril on 606v2 wrote:I can see Ireland putting a big score on Wales this year.

But then they'll roll over for you in Dublin, of course.

That would be nice Smile

by Scrumpy Wed 16 Jan - 11:20

Let it go guys I'm not hersh.
I'm just a Bath fan who came across this site back in Nov, this is getting a little silly now.

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 11:22

roll over for a rogering. Am I allowed to say that ?

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 11:22

Victor, it is but I'm backing you.

by Scrumpy Wed 16 Jan - 11:25

Thanks Gregor Hug

by Jimpy Wed 16 Jan - 11:25

VictorU3 wrote:Let it go guys I'm not hersh.
I'm just a Bath fan who came across this site back in Nov, this is getting a little silly now.

You're just a Bath fan who happened to appear a short time after HERSH was banned and have made some rather odd comments.

by Scrumpy Wed 16 Jan - 11:30

There are a few of us Bath fans in the West Country Jimpy, although if things continue the way they are at Bath then there might be a few less.

Odd comments?

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 11:38

Jimpy, unnecessarily belligerent to an innocent new poster. warning

As in innocent until proven guilty (of anything).
PS: I'm a rival Glaws man, but Vic has done nothing beyond supporting Bath..

by Effervescing Elephant Wed 16 Jan - 11:50

It's a bit creepy that some posters are hounding Vic, it's almost like they NEED Hersh to validate their own existence. Yikes

by Scrumpy Wed 16 Jan - 11:56

Very creepy indeed, welcome to the internet.

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 11:57

They miss HERSH quite badly, and are desperate to bond to a surrogate figure to aim the hate.

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 16 Jan - 11:59

From his username, I reckon Victor is Mr Ubogu himself.

Any chance of a free rugby trip or two, Vic? Very Happy

by Scrumpy Wed 16 Jan - 12:03

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:From his username, I reckon Victor is Mr Ubogu himself.

Any chance of a free rugby trip or two, Vic?

If only!
the only thing I have in common is that we were born on the same day, so by the standards on this site I guess that makes me him picard

and its Mr Ubogu to you.

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 12:04

Be good if he is Victor Ubogu.
Vic I have an October 1993 Bath RFC programme with your name in it. Alongside Coochie and Graham Dawe. Smile

by Effervescing Elephant Wed 16 Jan - 12:06

I did wonder when i saw you were the same age Vic! Still, welcome to 606v2 anyway.

by Guest Wed 16 Jan - 12:20

Lighten up Vic. You obviously aren't Hersh. He was a pretty decent laugh.

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 12:25

Risca
Ok, England has done its bit on here courtesy of Mr Ubogu as we now call him.
Can we now have a new user from Wales.
Maybe something like, say, 3haneW1ll1ams ? or 3arryDjon ?
MoffetsGhost was good what happened to him ?
Who's gonna start for Wales then ?

by Guest Wed 16 Jan - 12:28

Vic should get his name changed to Mr Ubogu, to avoid confusion. Get onto the mods Mr Ubogu

by RubyGuby Wed 16 Jan - 12:40

gregortree wrote:Risca
Ok, England has done its bit on here courtesy of Mr Ubogu as we now call him.
Can we now have a new user from Wales.
Maybe something like, say, 3haneW1ll1ams ? or 3arryDjon ?
MoffetsGhost was good what happened to him ?
Who's gonna start for Wales then ?

They're all injured mate thumbsup

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 13:03

Call up JPR, JJ, Gareth and Phil, WaleWillWin, Moffet, surely some of them are still fit fo 606.

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 16 Jan - 13:19

Anyway, the bottom line is England are rubbish.

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 13:33

The Official 2013 Wales v England bickering thread. - Page 12 1347041234

it won't really kickoff on here until later on 2nd Feb.

by Effervescing Elephant Wed 16 Jan - 13:44

2nd Feb is a very special date for me. A confluence of all thing great if you will. In order of importance it is:

1. The first day of the 6 Nations
2. The day my homebrew is ready for its first outing.
3. The anniversary of me meeting my Wife
4. My birthday.

That is all.

by Scrumpy Wed 16 Jan - 13:49

From Jimpy To VictorU3, Today at 12:35
Don't worry, the more enlightened amongst us all know who you really are.

Thanks for the PM jimpy.
Is this normal behaviour for this site? as to be honest I'm having 2nd thoughts about this place.

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 13:49

Effervescing Elephant wrote:2nd Feb is a very special date for me. A confluence of all thing great if you will. In order of importance it is:

1. The first day of the 6 Nations
2. The day my homebrew is ready for its first outing.
3. The anniversary of me meeting my Wife
4. My birthday.

That is all.

2: Looks like you planned that brew carefully in advance. Can I try some ? My bday is not until 22nd, but I am happy to drink to yours.

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 13:54

Mr Ubogu, don't leave just yet. You chose an unfortunate zoo of a thread to get started on. OP carries a warning, it does say 'bickering'. Many other discussions on 606 are of most the most informed, civilised and enlightened type. Laugh

by Effervescing Elephant Wed 16 Jan - 13:58

gregortree wrote:
Effervescing Elephant wrote:2nd Feb is a very special date for me. A confluence of all thing great if you will. In order of importance it is:

1. The first day of the 6 Nations
2. The day my homebrew is ready for its first outing.
3. The anniversary of me meeting my Wife
4. My birthday.

That is all.

2: Looks like you planned that brew carefully in advance. Can I try some ? My bday is not until 22nd, but I am happy to drink to yours.

It was indeed gregor. It may yet be a little 'young' but after the first the taste buds are generally numbed. I've got 40 pints of 'Wedgery's Walloper' brewing so plenty to go around! Ale

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 16 Jan - 14:01

VictorU3 wrote:From Jimpy To VictorU3, Today at 12:35
Don't worry, the more enlightened amongst us all know who you really are.

Thanks for the PM jimpy.
Is this normal behaviour for this site? as to be honest I'm having 2nd thoughts about this place.

That's a bit weird if you ask me.

by gregortree Wed 16 Jan - 14:03

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
VictorU3 wrote:From Jimpy To VictorU3, Today at 12:35
Don't worry, the more enlightened amongst us all know who you really are.

Thanks for the PM jimpy.
Is this normal behaviour for this site? as to be honest I'm having 2nd thoughts about this place.

That's a bit weird if you ask me.

We didn't

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