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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:04 am

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2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Jun 2012, 9:29 pm

Looked ok from what I seen, good SA forward performance and the backs had some gas. Don't think the quality was that high this year tbh, looked a pretty average AB side considering previous.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 9:58 pm

Just 18 and nearly 100kg at ten!? Meant to be next SA golden child.

More of a morne Steyn than attacking all rounder goosen type though.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 22 Jun 2012, 9:59 pm

Pollard okay Matt.

PSDT (Pieter Steph Du Toit) had a good game but makes a lot of silly errors. Give him 2 to 3 years and he could be world class as a 6 or perhaps 5. In the Tom Croft mould but not as quick and a stronger carriers.

Wian Liebenberg also good in the final along with Kitschoff. Scrum very strange, sometimes Ab's dominated and then Saffers got on top.

Overall the tournament a little disappointing.


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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:03 pm

Du Toit looks a prospect. My first signing this summer I think.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:06 pm

Great to see a different winner though Steve !!!

Academy and younger players breaking through means best players now above this level.

Perenara cane and many others missing. If goosen had not been injured SA would have slayed it.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:10 pm

Reckon this has been my team of the tournament.

1. Kitschoff (SA)
2. Morris (NZ)/Pretorius (SA)
3. Kyle Sinckler (ENG)
4. Iain Henderson (Ire)
5. Pieter Steph Du Toit (SA)
6. Luke Hamilton (Wales)
7. Shaun Adendorf (SA)
8. Jordan Taufua (NZ)
9. ??? (Not been overly impressed by any 9)
10. JJ Hanaran (Ire)
11. Milford Keresoma (NZ
12. Jan Serfontein (SA)
13. Jason Emery (NZ)
14. Chris Featai-Sautia (AUS)
15. Santiago Cordero (ARG)

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:13 pm

Agree with that Steve, was pretty unimpressed when I tuned in. Wales win over AB's was pretty entertaining but not for the rugby.

Pollard is 100kg???? I don't think that is right Matt

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:15 pm

Welsh th for me looks tidy.

Proctor on Wing looked good only saw your Queensland lad once Steve so may have wrong. Looks incredible though

SA captain and centre missing to tonight close

Good team Steve. Bet most of them will be good pro players

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:15 pm

97 kg pooly said nearly

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:19 pm

Sautia was unreal in first game and was struggling for wingers so he fitted in.

Emery excellent v Samoa so he got in the same way. Small-Smith was also very decent.


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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:22 pm

Pollard quote

"Last year already he was invited by Stormers coach Allister Coetzee to train with the team in November, as they prepared for this year’s Super Rugby competition, something that had not been done before with such a young player.

Interesting to see if he makes it or crashes and burns

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:45 pm

Wouldn't say Pollard looks big at all, must be quite tall. Looks a decent player, nothing special. JJ looks well ahead and Ford higher still, Goosen prob a fair bit better too.

Hard to judge players at that level sometimes, I imagine half the U20 players bought this window will never see full Int honours.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:54 pm

Thing is pooly he has another 3 years at that level that's why they are so excited by him.

Bulls have apparently been trying to steal him and bribing parents.

97 kg is 15st he is 6'3 so not a big weight but solid.

Heard about goosen Joc Sautia etc in same way ie they are famous before they play there first game. Some players they just know about.

Burger and nonu same in that knew of them when they were 16 ish

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:19 pm

Serfontein player of tournament official.

Top talent

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 23 Jun 2012, 6:36 am

Welsh re-start and lineouts are hopeless!! Warburton off injured, come on Tips, your time to shine!!
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Post by Driver Sat 23 Jun 2012, 7:18 am

This scrum is a mess
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Post by Driver Sat 23 Jun 2012, 7:20 am

Phillips offlOad on the deck was sensational! Should have scOred earlier though
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Post by Driver Sat 23 Jun 2012, 7:24 am

It's like Rob Horne was born bad , almost dropped the ball on a easy run in
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Post by prop_lyd Sat 23 Jun 2012, 7:32 am

Hoping we don't mess this up!! Ryan deserved a try and Tips has pace I didn't know he had!! Never thought I'd say this but....good to see Hook on at 10!!
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Post by Driver Sat 23 Jun 2012, 7:34 am

Losing this them selves Wales with daft penalties
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Post by Driver Sat 23 Jun 2012, 7:38 am

Hook almost winning it there!
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Post by prop_lyd Sat 23 Jun 2012, 7:40 am

I just wish Joubert reffed the scrum right!! We're just not clinical enough....consistently losing but 1-5 points isn't good enough anymore for us, shows how far we've come compared to when we just prayed we weren't smashed!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 23 Jun 2012, 8:47 am

Cruden/SBW.......wow

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Post by Driver Sat 23 Jun 2012, 8:49 am

Big games at Seaton today , 10s rugby from 11am all day
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:03 am

This is painful to watch! No intesity from Ireland and the midfield has been horrendous what Wallace is doing on the field with 2 days preparation I will never know!

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Post by Guest Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:05 am

I hope you are starting to rate cane now pooly?? How can you not after the way he is playing today

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:08 am

Really bad, complete turnaround from last week. Cane playing well, shame for Cruden as he was outstanding but big chance for Barrett

When have I said I don't rate Cane?? Thought he looked a little lightweight for Chiefs but he punches above his weight. AB Backrow working well

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Post by Guest Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:10 am

How is that not a mccaw yellow.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:14 am

Did you see TJ Perenara is out for season? Broke his ankle then got a blood clot in theatre, could be a career ender by all accounts

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Post by Guest Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:17 am

Damn it that's bad news for me. Doubt it's career ending clots are easily sorted but treatment protocol takes time . They will just aspirate the clot. Be about 9 months though.

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Post by Guest Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:20 am

http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/7113286/Perenara-injured-in-Hurricanes-exhibition-win


Have you seen anything different to this

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:23 am

Read a few reports, one said 6 months the other said a year min if he ever comes back. Reports vary so much, don't even think he's back in NZ yet due to clot so probably a little early to tell.

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Post by Guest Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:26 am

Medically there is no reason a clot can end your career unless it is deep
In the lungs.


Read about 5 reports and none of them mention career ending. Is it the same ones who said ferris was finished lol.

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Post by Guest Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:27 am

Ireland look like they want to be home. Could be 50 here

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:33 am

I read it last night but as I said I've read different reports and he's not even in NZ so early days, sure he'll be back next year.

Ferris was well documented and rife amongst Ulster fans that one knock and it's curtains. Ulster was were very cautious with bringing him back and they still don't really play him in the Rabo. Sure SJE will back this up and it was big news in Ireland at the time

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:38 am

Great turnover from McCaw!

Backrow really working, Messem adding physicality and Cane energy. Might have to play McCaw at 8

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:41 am

Cracking finish Gear

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Post by Guest Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:42 am

What a finish gear. Earls will remember that. Swatted

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:46 am

Yeah to be fair there was massive worries over Ferris. Rumours were he would never play again. Rarely plays outside of internationals and Heino these days as they dont want to do him in

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Post by Guest Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:54 am

You could say that about most Ireland and Wales players. They barely ever play in the rabo that's why I think it's a poor competition to watch.

All sports thrive on rumour be it on injuries or transfers.. To be fair the rumours about Gareth Thomas and lee Byrne all turned out to be true

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Post by Guest Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:55 am

See Munster signed c j stander. Great signing and a future bok. Shows money talks

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:57 am

Not knocking Ferris for it, they're just managing him as he's a big big player for Ulster & Ireland. AB do similar with McCaw, Carter etc.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 23 Jun 2012, 9:58 am

Lovely grubber from SBW and pace from Dagg.....this is shocking

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Post by Guest Sat 23 Jun 2012, 10:00 am

This is like an exhibition game. Ireland have not challenged Barrett who is pretty much a lace curtain in defence

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 23 Jun 2012, 10:01 am

Brad Thorn, Chris Cusiter available for cash

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Post by Guest Sat 23 Jun 2012, 10:12 am

Take it you want to buy Romano then pooly

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 23 Jun 2012, 10:16 am

Yea, I need a SH 4. Went in for him earlier but didnt have much budget Sad

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Post by Guest Sat 23 Jun 2012, 10:21 am

He is decent been around for years as a bit of a journeyman. but he is having a great season this year and now an AB

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Post by Guest Sat 23 Jun 2012, 3:55 pm

Not confident about the game but sa's selection policy helps us. Olivier would not be picked by any saffer bar Meyer.

Pogieter is decent but could pick lots better.

Same with bench.

C'mon England

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 23 Jun 2012, 3:59 pm

Need to start fast!! C'mon England

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