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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:04 am

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2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 10:58 am

Going to release Szarseski, Hanks and Diggen if anyone wants to bid on them let me know or i will have to let them go

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 11:13 am

He can't buy a break these days. poor lad

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,3551_7832579,00.html

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 21 Jun 2012, 11:49 am

Guys can I ask where you think my squad needs to stregthen? I've tried to get my front row sorted, think I have 7 international props now, so am hoping that sorts me out on that front!

Quite happy with my seecond row options now, but could possibly do with another no8? How do people rate Davies and HArrison at no9 - is that an area I should improve? Am guessing that Simpson wont get in the England team so sure he will be availanle all season.

Have also tried to make sure most of my players can play in 2 positions and have quite a few of my academy all geared for first team.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jun 2012, 12:05 pm

Post it up Chris with back up options and you'll get some feedback

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 21 Jun 2012, 12:11 pm

Its something like the following

1. Domingo/Tongan dude/Grant (scottish one)
2. Hartley/Webber/Matu'u
3. Hayman/Kepu/Mullipola/Thomas
4. Albacete/Davies/Craig
5. Lawes/Wyn-Jones/Clark
6. Lydiate/Messam/Lawes/Launchbury/Craig
7. Salvi/Cane/Gill/Lapandry
8. Parisse/Messam/Wray
9. Phillps/Simpson
10. Hernandez/Giteau/Cipriani/Ford
11. Siviatu/Savea/
12. Fofana/de Villiers/Giteau/Beck
13. Tuilagi/de Villiers/Tait
14. Ashton/Wade
15. Foden/Halfpenny/Cipriani

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Post by stnick88 Thu 21 Jun 2012, 12:21 pm

Only critiscism I might have, and it is a small one, is that apart from Messam, your pack lacks a little carrying. Lydiate is more of a tackler, Parisse is immense but not a traditional ball carrier, although he does make good yards and Salvi is more of a breakdown man. Think you will just have to select your team well and make sure if you dont play messam in the pack, play the Tongan at loosehead to add to your carrying.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jun 2012, 12:23 pm

Good front row options, done some cracking dealing there

Carrying options in pack could be an issue and lineout could get picked on a bit but very strong throughout tbh. Correct selections and top 4 is realistic

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 12:43 pm

Amazed no one has bought Josh Strauss as an 8 on here. The guy is quality and does everything.

Carries well so could be an option chris. for me though would look for a carrying 6 or 4 to spread the carrying around.

For example i will have Richie Grey, Ferris, Burger, Hari, Etzbeth all as weighty carriers and it means you can control the ball a bit better and get front foot.

your backs are diamond but they cant play off the front foot so i think carriers becomes essential.

think you will challenge top 4. lots of your long term buys are paying off

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Post by stnick88 Thu 21 Jun 2012, 12:44 pm

Hernandez finding form could be key, started to look better for Metro but they often play him at 15.

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 12:46 pm

pogieter at 6 could be a good buy chris off the top of my head

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jun 2012, 12:51 pm

Etzebeth isnt a weighty carrier, he's weighty but not really a carrier

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 1:06 pm

You are massively in the minority there Pooly !!

read every review of the game etc etc. Not really going to revisit it.


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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 21 Jun 2012, 1:11 pm

Arry already bought Potgeiter.
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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 1:13 pm

He has had a good season and would do a job. there are so many pogieters in SA. really common name.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 21 Jun 2012, 1:21 pm

I really need Davies to pick up form again I think! Have been thinking about getting a no8 - very tempted with the Tongan Gloucester have signed from Nottingham but with Morgan there he wont get a game. So instead might take a risk and sign the new Saints no8 from SA.

I've been very lucky with Savea, Gill and Savea - also guys like Wade, Launchbury and Ford are coming along well. Really want Bleyendaal to kick on now, he was so good at the JWC two/three years ago.

I think by the start of the season I will probably be starting Cane as my openside, he seems to be able to carry a bit more than Salvi.

Guess its all about getting the balance right! Just had to make sure my front row was good next year, as definitely got marked down in the tight games.

Wish I'd gone for Etzebeth Mat, looks a top talent already.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jun 2012, 1:28 pm

anonmattyt wrote:You are massively in the minority there Pooly !!

read every review of the game etc etc. Not really going to revisit it.

I don't think I am, think Pete agrees with me too. He's a class act but not a big carrier, I'd say Botha carries as well as Etzebeth tbh. He's a big unit but very top heavy so struggles to make hard yards. Not slagging him off in slightest but don't think he's a good carrier.

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 1:34 pm

Botha is a great carrier if you mean Bakkies??. they do the hard yards which is what 4s are meant to do. battering rams. They are never going to go more then 4-5 m. First wave runners.

I always shudder when you see bakkies basically running at full pace in to a brick wall

If you mean Maurice Botha then i will be getting you sectioned!!

I will put that in my file of pooly quotes.

personal favourite was you saying that "fielden is better than sharples"

too be fair we have all posted daft things if you look back. lots of players never develop as you would think.

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 1:44 pm

Think the price i paid for Fourie will go down in legend

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 21 Jun 2012, 1:44 pm

Think Dewald Potgieter was signed, Jacques, who's playing this weekend, is still available and someone I was going to sign before I signed Louw and Burger.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jun 2012, 1:51 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Botha is a great carrier if you mean Bakkies??. they do the hard yards which is what 4s are meant to do. battering rams. They are never going to go more then 4-5 m. First wave runners.

I always shudder when you see bakkies basically running at full pace in to a brick wall

If you mean Maurice Botha then i will be getting you sectioned!!

I will put that in my file of pooly quotes.

personal favourite was you saying that "fielden is better than sharples"

too be fair we have all posted daft things if you look back. lots of players never develop as you would think.

No I meant M Botha. Not sure what you've seen to suggest Etzebeth is a big carrier, he's got loads of talents but carrying isn't one of them.

I think I said Fielden was at a similar level to Sharples which he probably was at the time, it was about 2 years ago. Fielden is a quality finisher but injuries spoilt his season just gone, we missed him massively.

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Post by stnick88 Thu 21 Jun 2012, 2:09 pm

'Maurice' Botha, is he a French one we dont know about?

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 2:15 pm

He is good friends with jean Barclay

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Post by stnick88 Thu 21 Jun 2012, 2:21 pm

Wouldnt say Etzebeth isnt a good carrier, but he hasnt shown against England that he is a great carrier. Certainly better than Mouritz!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jun 2012, 2:26 pm

I'd say he was a decent carrier but an area of his game he needs to work on...he's only 20 so hardly the finished article.

Most of his weight is upper body and he goes into contact very upright so doesn't get to really his strength. A few years of doing legs in the gym and he'll be a monster

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 2:40 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I'd say he was a decent carrier but an area of his game he needs to work on...he's only 20 so hardly the finished article.

Most of his weight is upper body and he goes into contact very upright so doesn't get to really his strength. A few years of doing legs in the gym and he'll be a monster

I would agree with that he is a decent carrier. a million miles away from MOBO who is a child in the tackle

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jun 2012, 2:53 pm

Jesus we kinda of agreed there in a weird way, need to record this

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Post by stnick88 Thu 21 Jun 2012, 3:56 pm

think we should MARK when you agree with anyone Pooly!!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jun 2012, 4:32 pm

Haha...yea cheers Nick

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 5:41 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Jesus we kinda of agreed there in a weird way, need to record this

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We probably agreed because it was the first time your opinion has ever been correct. Whistle

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jun 2012, 5:58 pm

Lol....thanks.

What's the saying, I'm never wrong...I'm just less right

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jun 2012, 6:00 pm

Did anyone see Guscotts current "best in the world XV"?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 21 Jun 2012, 6:20 pm

One of the funniest things I've seen in a while...

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 6:22 pm

I once saw Eddie butler pick himself in a greatest ever 15. Priceless

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 6:24 pm

Can you post guscott link ?? I am on a mobile

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jun 2012, 6:44 pm

I think you have half the team tbh, although some very suspect calls

Hi Jerry, with the summer tours coming into their final weekend of games, what is your current World XV based on the performances you have seen? Alastair Telford, UK
Hi Alastair, it would be something like this: Israel Dagg; Julian Savea, Pat McCabe, Sonny Bill Williams, Bryan Habana; Berrick Barnes, Will Genia; Tendai 'Beast' Mtawarira, Bismarck du Plessis, Dan Cole, Eben Etzebeth, Juandre Kruger, Scott Higginbotham, David Pocock, Kieran Read.

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 6:51 pm

Which ones suspect for you ?? Cole strange for me as has not been great. Carter over barnes also.
Read cannot be in that team if based on last 2 weeks either

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jun 2012, 7:09 pm

Read can't be in??? Are you kidding me, he's been fantastic. He's easily been ABs best forward in both tests.

Plenty of debatables but glaring shouldn't be there.....

McCabe at 13, can't say I've seen him there, 12 maybe.
Savea...one good test and a few good S15 games
Etzebeth & Kruger....see above
Barnes over Sexton, Cruden, Carter??

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 7:19 pm

This was based on last 2 games i think pooly. How can read be the best forward when he was concussed in 1st half of 2nd test ?.

Read is probably best player in world at moment but has got injured in both tests so can't be picked in this arbitrary side based on 2 tests.

Barnes has been great in 2 tests cruden has not played so how can he be in it.

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Jun 2012, 7:23 pm

Also Alberts would walk team of June tests.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:02 am

corbs out of test tomorrow. marler in.
shame as he looked good last week off the bench.
PDJ on bench now.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:06 am

If Marler goes off we will be in a world of trouble. Did stevens tour?? he would be a better option for bench

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Post by stnick88 Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:13 am

yeh but had to go home injured. shame.
PDJ can hold his own in the scrum but is pretty non-existent in the loose.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:20 am

PDJ is nowt in the loose but is a really good scrummaging TH but on the LH he is poor.

Stevens is a good bench option with the ludicrous rule of having one prop on bench

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Jun 2012, 3:27 pm

Anybody got a good 13 (maybe EQ) available?

Also looking to tweak EQ if anybody fancies it

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Post by Bathite Fri 22 Jun 2012, 3:42 pm

Laulala, Hipkiss, Carraro?

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Post by stnick88 Fri 22 Jun 2012, 3:44 pm

wrong game Bathite

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Jun 2012, 3:44 pm

Wrong game Bathite Wink

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Post by Bathite Fri 22 Jun 2012, 3:54 pm

whoops, long week! my bad

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 22 Jun 2012, 7:01 pm

Martin McKenzie having a fine game in the JWC final.

Tunga'fasi and Willemse both sent off.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 9:24 pm

How was pollard. Meant to be a huge talent

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