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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:04 am

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Fantasy Aviva Premiership Current League Table

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish






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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:20 am

Ford, May, Launchbury and Garvey for me.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:21 am

If Youngs can sort out his darts then he could be a decent option. Hooker is a bit of an issue as there are loads of players who we can all name who could come in and do ok, but none that are actually standing up and making an unquestionable case for their inclusion.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:21 am

Could have put my house on you putting forward Garvey Nick! lol

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:22 am

Just a quick reminder to everyone that your squads need to be at the correct limits at midnight on 30th June as I will start imposing the penalties as per the rules on 1st July if they are not.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:23 am

Garvey has to be worth a look as a carrying second row. We despereately need a proper 4 who is a lump and does the hard graft.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:30 am

Pooly he carried Irish for long parts of last season. Admitedly his form dropped off at the end of last season but he was playing 6. His carry and tackle stats are very impressive. Must be worth a go at least. If he doesnt cut it then fair enough.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:35 am

Should have said that these arent players I would have on the bench or match day 22, but people I would want in the training squad.

Though I would have May ahead of Strettle already and think that someone with that much talent has to be given game time. Would probably say the same for Ford, think he's the most talented 10 by some distance, just needs to bulk up and gain experience.

Would like to see more of Garvey, he looks pretty good. Guess the issue we have is that the AP is the most attritional league in the world. so not always the easiest to bring youngsters through, epsc when the conditions get crappy.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:37 am

I'd definitely have Launchbury up there with Garvey - huge fan of him, think he could be a very good player for Wasps and England.


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Post by Driver Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:40 am

This whole conditions are crappy thing for me is bull Poopie. I have and you all have seen teams play wide expansive rugby in buckets of rain with sucess and teams try and out muscle each other in perfect conditions.

They may be odd exceptions such as 50mph wind and torrential downpour but it's mainly a myth that weather has that much of an effect on rugby.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:44 am

Agree Chris I was hugely impressed by Launchbury when Wasps played Irish this season. Work rate was top draw.

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Post by Driver Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:52 am

And i thought our behavior at the 11 RWC was bad.

http://www.espnscrum.com/newzealand/rugby/story/166185.html
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:53 am

Really hope he kicks on this season Nick, his tackle rate and technique is exceptional and could become a very good number 4. Glad that Lancaster rates him, just a shame he got injured whilst out in SA.

Not sure who will come through at Wasps this year, I've liked the look of Mitchel Tamiau who went on loan to Lon Welsh last year before breaking his jaw, but can't see where he will get game time as we have 3-4 good no12s in the squad now.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:54 am

hope its not that number 8 I've just bought!

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Post by Driver Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:56 am

For 6Ns i'd like to see

Elliot Daley , Johnny May , Matt Garvey and Will Welch.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:57 am

Will Welch for me is nowhere near the EPS. There are many back row forwards who would be ahead of him.
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Post by Driver Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:59 am

He's looked a class act when i'v seen him play Pete. Took Gloucester and Wasps to the cleaners at the end of the season.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:04 am

It's one thing taking apart a demoralised Gloucester team and a frankly pish poor Wasps one mate, it's another thing entirely playing international rugby.

He is behind a lot of other back row forwards in my opinion.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:07 am

In order to make things easier for me keeping tabs on squad sizes could people please list their senior squad and their academy players seperately, rather than as one long list of players where I have to go through and decipher who fits into which category.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:15 am

oh uh the red font has come out!

good call on Daly Driver, I just hope Wasps give him game time, as we've got a ridiculous amount of centres and can see Young wanting to play a much more phyiscal game up the middle.


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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:25 am

Just had a quick scan through squads and I make it that Gloucester, Harlequins, Leicester Tigers, London Irish, Newcastle Falcons, Northampton Saints and Sale Sharks are all over the limits for either senior or academy squads, with Glaws and Quins actually currently over for both.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:26 am

im releasing aguella which should take me down to 40

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Post by Driver Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:27 am

Bath , Exeter , Saracens and Worcester all squeky clean!
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Post by Driver Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:37 am

SBW to return to NRL after a few months in Japan.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:37 am

I'd have Welch around Gibson's level personally, maybe a bit behind. I'd like to see him in the Saxons possibly but not ready for an EPS spot

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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:43 am

where did you hear that Driver? If so, pooly will be gutted!

Cant comment on Welch as havent seen enough. I trust you Northerners judgement though....

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Post by Driver Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:44 am

It's on the main board here and on a few NZ sites.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Jun 2012, 12:43 pm

It's from Sydney Herald I think, nothing new.

Think they're reporting he'll do 6 months in league in the S15 off season as well as a stint in Japan then return to union. All rumours still Nick

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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 12:44 pm

Yeh its a different story every month.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 12:45 pm

For those who will be in the Amlin Cup next season in this game these will be your pools…

1 - Bordeaux, Connacht, Bath Rugby, Mont de Marsan
2 - London Wasps, Bizkaia Gernika, Rovigo, Perpignan
3 - Bayonne, Worcester Warrirors, NG Dragons, Mogliano
4 - Agen , Sale Sharks, Bucharest Wolves, Calvisano
5 - Grenoble, Il Cavilieri Prato, Exeter Chiefs, Stade Francais

I will update the European Homepage in the not to distant future.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Jun 2012, 12:47 pm

I've took him in knowing he'll probably go back at some point, be a loss but not as much as bloody Servat!

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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 12:50 pm

It was a gamble for both of us. I've given you the form 12 in the world, but he could go to league and you end up releasing him. Happy I got Evans though as 10 always seemed to be a problem for me

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Jun 2012, 12:54 pm

12 is probably my strongest position so could take the hit ok. Evans transforms your side imo, quality player

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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 12:58 pm

I'm hoping Elton Jantjies keeps developin well, he could do with leaving the Lions as he is often behind a beaten pack.
But he is a good kicker and seems quite creative.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Jun 2012, 12:59 pm

Yea he's a good player, seems to be ahead of Goosen currently. Just needs a chance for SA

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Jun 2012, 1:42 pm

I think they will be looking at George in the reserve hooker spot. He was close to getting picked last year according to Greenwood and Barnes.

Youngs throwing is so poor that i cant see him being involved until sorted out.

Interesting by SCW saying that England would not have gone out of the football if they had got dave alred involved

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 25 Jun 2012, 2:21 pm

What I never understand with the football is how someone on £100k plus a week can't pass the ball around properly just like the other foreign national teams. It's a joke.

Youngs threw ok in the final warm up game - quite like the look of Mike Haywood at Saints, they are bringing through a lot of good youngsters there.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 2:33 pm

Lads how do you think this is looking for a team during the RC tourney

1 Poux
2 Lindsay
3 Castrogiovanni
4 Garvey
5 Muller
6 Daniel
7 Armitage
8 Talei
9 Dupuy
10 Evans
11 Tagicakibau
12 McAllister
13 Bastereaud
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15 Armitage

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Jun 2012, 4:36 pm

Pete I will get mine sorted before 1st July. Been in school last few weeks so mad busy whilst also trying to sell a house and preseason just about to begin.

It will get done.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Jun 2012, 5:28 pm

No worries mate, I am sure everyone will have theirs done, just wanted to give everyone a bit of notice that it needs doing. OK
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Post by Guest Mon 25 Jun 2012, 6:15 pm

How can my senior academy be over ?? How many are we allowed ?

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 25 Jun 2012, 6:27 pm

Mat - i think Pete might have meant senior squad, as sure senior academy is 20 people and I was in the limits there, think I am one player over my limit on seniors, but have got academy at 19 when I put Tuilagi and Gill into it.

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Jun 2012, 8:13 pm

Just counted I have 22 but a few are 18 so will be removed

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Post by The_Enigma Mon 25 Jun 2012, 8:27 pm

Hey guys, how are you all? You lot probably wouldn't have come across me before but I do have a bit of interest in rugby league (Super League) so if you guys ever decide to run a super league...league please let us know thumbsup

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Jun 2012, 8:51 pm

Start one up fella, sure you'd get some interest on the boards

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 26 Jun 2012, 10:46 am

Chris Cusiter available before I release him

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Post by Guest Tue 26 Jun 2012, 10:54 am

I am officially at the right limits fro squads. its been emotional Crying or Very sad

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 26 Jun 2012, 11:34 am

Pete - got my squad down to 38 players, plus 20 in the academy.

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Post by stnick88 Wed 27 Jun 2012, 3:40 pm

irish sign peter richards as a scrum half coach. seems very specialist is that normal for clubs to do?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jun 2012, 3:58 pm

Think Wasps have Bracken??? Although not really working for them

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 27 Jun 2012, 4:22 pm

Lol - Pooly have you not seen how much better Simpson got with Bracken's coaching - every aspect of his game improved. Reckon he'll be one of the best no9's next year with a full pre-season!

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