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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:30 am

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Upcoming Fixtures: AP R1 - Newcastle Falcons v Sale Sharks, Gloucester v Northampton Saints, London Welsh v Leicester Tigers, Saracens v London Irish, London Wasps v Harlequins, Worcester Warriors v Bath Rugby

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1. pullthestrings
2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:34 pm

I never had him down as being as physical as he is.

best wing in the world up for grabs for me.

Personal favourites are Vincent Clerc, Digby Ioane, Cory Jane and George North (not there yet but damn close)

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:35 pm

He's in great form, really like JP.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:37 pm

On form for me it's JP, but those you mentioned 3 Steve will always be right up there with the class.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:38 pm

Tough one best winger, I don't think anybody is ahead of the field like Habana etc was a few years back.

North was great in 6N but has mis fired a little lately. Need to see consistency over a length of time to be regarded as the best

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:11 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Tough one best winger, I don't think anybody is ahead of the field like Habana etc was a few years back.

North was great in 6N but has mis fired a little lately. Need to see consistency over a length of time to be regarded as the best


It is tough. North not great last year. Potentially. Amazing.

For me Guildford, north, pietersen,gear, habana, Jane etc all similar level but Jp. Jp however in form that makes him way ahead of those names currently

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Post by Guest Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:05 pm

What a whinger http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_7947375,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:11 pm

I can think of stronger words than whinger, how utterly sad.

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Post by Driver Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:14 pm

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He still moaning about that 'flat' pass?
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Post by Guest Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:37 pm

Ab's got the better deal in this last years wc. France could have had quite a few penalties

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:12 pm

Back from Magaluf now lads, absolute carnage

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:54 pm

Get much action Arry?

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Post by Driver Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:56 pm

Dont let the lads down Arry!
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Post by 'Arry Spurs Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:32 pm

Haha, I had my share Wink

Funniest thing had to be running away from an absolute whale of a lass from Essex who wanted a sh*g, I'd of needed my diving equipment!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:33 pm

Guys

I am away next week Monday to Friday and although I will have some wi fi access I won't be on much, so is somebody able to do the match thread for me please?
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Post by Guest Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:03 pm

Is it 7 or 8 English starting in Heino this year on here

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:17 pm

Can do Pete.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:56 pm

cheers luke, and it's 7 Mat.
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Post by 'Arry Spurs Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:53 pm

Looking to improve my back row...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:35 pm

S15 team of semi's:

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_7952934,00.html

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Post by Guest Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:48 pm

That is a dreadful team of s15. How was etzbeth not in it check his stats. Also jdp gave away a million pens.

Half backs are right and sharks 5 looked top

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:45 pm

anonmattyt wrote:That is a dreadful team of s15. How was etzbeth not in it check his stats. Also jdp gave away a million pens.

Half backs are right and sharks 5 looked top

Etzebeth stats:

18 carries and made 21 metres (1.17m per carry av)
10 tackles made, 1 missed
Got turned over once
Made one lineout take

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:48 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:That is a dreadful team of s15. How was etzbeth not in it check his stats. Also jdp gave away a million pens.

Half backs are right and sharks 5 looked top

Etzebeth stats:

18 carries and made 21 metres (1.17m per carry av)
10 tackles made, 1 missed
Got turned over once
Made one lineout take


Where did you get these pooly ?? They are good stats 21 metres is good as all hard yards at 4. Thought would be less. The one he missed was Jp when he was isolated so never expected. Tbh his tackle count was in 20s when you look at tackles with others cootzee had massive count also and sharks 5 more.

Keegan Daniel stats would be interesting. Said for years he is top. Was great at u20s and still never filled out

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Post by stnick88 Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:44 am

I like Daniel and he has been one of the form backrows in S15 this season. doesnt seem to get rated that highly when I play him though.

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Post by Guest Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:44 pm

I always rate Daniel. Good leader also and a real grafter

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Post by stnick88 Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:41 pm

Gutted I didnt snap up Kankowski from Chris when he released him. Has been playing well last few weeks and would have given me Sharks backrow which has been playing quality recently.
Having two of them and Armitage will do for now.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:48 pm

Kankowski at his best is a great player which is why I bought him at the beginning of this game, but nobody rates him on here, hence why I sold him!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:53 pm

Good break Pete?

He's not very physical Kankowski, bags of pace though and a good engine. He strikes me a hard pitch type player.

I always remember that game in France in the AI when he was absolutely awful, just looked a complete physical mis match.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:59 pm

Same reason I had to release him Pete! Thought he was a really good player, but each time I selected him he'd be a main reason why I was given a loss! Really need Ashley Johnson to come on strong at Wasps next year for me.

Am hoping a combination of Haskell, Poff and AJ will do really well in the AP, and that a choice between Wentzel, Palmer and Launchbury will do really well too. Perhaps the biggest bonus will be in Billy Vunipola has laid of the pies in pre-season, huge potential if he can trim down.

Not sure who else will break through this season for us - expect big things from Sam Jones - Mitch Tamiau should get a lot of game time at London Welsh.

Saints have just signed a 6ft 5 NZ centre - reckon they are going to have a really good season, got some good signings, they have a great coaching setup and seem to turn good players into very good players/internationals - Kruger, Wood, Hartley (never knew they signed him for Worcester!) and can see Calum Clark going that way too.

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Post by stnick88 Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:15 pm

Jealous your going 7's final tonight matt, some good players on show.

Shame Tagi wont be playing for Irish, but JJ and Yarde will be exciting to watch. May and Clark for Glos also.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:30 pm

Was a great break pooly, mum's 60th, so all the family away together. Drank lots on tuesday night at her party, felt like shoite wednesday. Seriously getting too old for getting hammered, never used to get hangovers at all.
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Post by Guest Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:14 pm

Irish won it despite glos being 28-5 up at half time. Glos had no may who dropped out and Clarke was sub as injured. Irish only side to play proper players yarde jj ojo etc.

Night ruined by bath facilities 30-40 minute wait for beer never changes. They don't Pre pour which is weird. As a bath fan said to me if they got relegated their ground would not allow them to come up

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:35 am

This should be a cracker

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:57 am

Good game so far. Cruden was having a mare then conjured up a sublime chip for the try. His goal kicking is top drawer

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:59 am

Lambie having a horror show under hIgh ball

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:01 am

Cruden/SBW just read each other so well.

Lambie looks well off pace, Chiefs just starting to take control.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:02 am

Robbie Robinson has had some season

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:19 am

Was a mistake playing Lambie I think, he's been out injured for a month and looks well off the pace.

Sharks need to come out fired up and score first in the second half otherwise this game is gone.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:21 am

He's looked rusty Pete, not easy coming straight into a final from injury but he's got steadily stronger.

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:33 am

Come on Sharks pick it up!!!

Do people think I should look at picking up a centre in the draft and letting Maps go? Not sure whether Japan's harmed him quite a bit?
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Post by Guest Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:50 am

For me players in Japan carry zero ratings once they have been there 6 months. Every player that went to Japan and come back has been poor until they get back to speed. It's the reason I got rid of mils. A good example for me Is jaque Fourie.
I would no longer give him any rating as he has been over there best part of 9 months

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:51 am

Great finish Masanga!

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:53 am

Ok cheers Matt....I'm in the hunt for an o.c then guys got money to spend on him!!
Sharks just tried too hard...I know it's an age old saying but this is one game too far for them! Good to see these two teams in the final though and Chiefs looking very strong.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:12 am

Sonny Bill Williams......it had to be

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:17 am

Fair play to the Chiefs...wanted it more and played good rugby. Think the travelling finally took it's toll on the Sharks but fair play a great 2nd half of the season for them. Congrats to the Chiefs good to see a new team win!!
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Post by Driver Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:12 am

Super 15 teams of Tournament?

1.Sona Taumalo
2.Bismark Du Plessie
3.Ben Tameifuna
4.Eben Etzebeth
5.Craig Clarke
6.Liam Messem
7.Heinrich Brussouw
8.Richie McCaw

9.Will Genia
10.Aaron Cruden
11.Ollie Le Roux
12.Sonny Bill Williams
13.Adam Ashley Cooper (Immense for Tahs)
14.JP Pieterson
15.Kurtley Beale
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Post by Guest Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:19 pm

Brussow ???? He had a very average super 15 when he played. Read a shoe in for fOr me. Coetzee was best 7 IMO

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:53 pm

Not far off for me Driver, Brussow had a good start and finish to S15 but I wouldn't have him in team.

I'd go Read at 8, not sure who at 7 tbh. Coetzee plays BS doesn't he??

Possibly the black lad at Stormers at 7, although he's a bit more of a 6.5

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:56 pm

Coetzee plays either. He was at 7 for SA with Alberts and spies. Would not have AAc near the team especially at 13. Conrad smith was excellent

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:01 pm

Forget about Smith, he was shoe in at 13. AAC played 12/13/14/15 through season poor bugger

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:40 pm

1. Sono Taumlolo
2. BDP
3. ??
4. Eben Etzebeth
5. Brodie Retallick
6. Marcel Coetzee
7. Michael Hooper
8. Kieran Read
9. Will Genia
10. Aaran Cruden
11. Asaeli Tikoirotuma
12. SBW
13. JJ Englebrecht
14. JP Pietersen
15. Joe Pietersen (Just edges out Andre Taylor)

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