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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 03 Jul 2012, 11:30 am

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Upcoming Fixtures: AP R1 - Newcastle Falcons v Sale Sharks, Gloucester v Northampton Saints, London Welsh v Leicester Tigers, Saracens v London Irish, London Wasps v Harlequins, Worcester Warriors v Bath Rugby

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Waiting List
1. pullthestrings
2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by stnick88 Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:41 am

Spies being out is good for me, although it probably means Daniel will definitely at least make the bench, so probably means I gain one and lose one.

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Post by stnick88 Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:45 am

anyone know when SA team will be announced??

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:53 am

This morning apparently mate.
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:56 am

See Sale have signed Cameron Shepard - good signing if he can regain his fitness, which Saints seemed to have a big problem about!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:39 pm

South Africa: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Bryan Habana, 13 Jean de Villiers (captain), 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Keegan Daniel, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.

Replacements: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Pat Cilliers, 18 Flip van der Merwe, 19 Jacques Potgieter, 20 Ruan Pienaar, 21 Pat Lambie, 22 JJ Engelbrecht.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 15 Aug 2012, 7:27 pm

New Zealand:

15 Israel Dagg, 14 Cory Jane, 13 Ma'a Nonu, 12 Sonny Bill Williams, 11 Hosea Gear, 10 Daniel Carter, 9 Aaron Smith, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Richie McCaw (capt), 6 Liam Messam, 5 Samuel Whitelock, 4 Luke Romano, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Keven Mealamu, 1 Tony Woodcock.

Replacements: 16 Andrew Hore, 17 Ben Franks, 18 Brodie Retallick, 19 Victor Vito, 20 Piri Weepu, 21 Aaron Cruden, 22 Ben Smith.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:23 pm

Oz are gonna get smashed I fear. Although looking forward to seeing Faainga v SBW (not in terms of them being at the same level of ability, but Faainga is a hell of a defender)

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Post by Guest Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:46 pm

Much better SA second
Row with Bekker in it. That is 2 mobile lumps.

Ab's strongest backline Minus smith

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:57 pm

Yea Bekker brings a big carrying option which they've missed.

Should be a cracker.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:30 pm

Is Cane injured?
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:34 pm

IMPORTANT NEWS

Right folks, as you know Driver was contemplating leaving the game, which would be a shame given that we have all been together for a while. I have also been feeling that being in charge of Saracens was getting a bit stale, so I came up with a solution.

I will be taking over London Welsh and Driver will be taking over Saracens. What we have done is split the two senior squads using a random number generator, which in effect sees 22 Saracens players transfering to London Welsh with me, and 22 London Welsh players going to Saracens with Driver. The two senior academies will also be transfering, as will coaching staff, although the junior academies will remain as they are. Lastly, we will both be taking our current budgets with us.

The senior squads will look like this:-


Saracens

Elliot, Smit, Chuter
Mullan, Lahiff, Lewis-Roberts
Tui, Mitchell, J.du Plessis, Swainston
Nallet, Williams, Hudson, van der Merwe, Swinson, Evans
Rennie, Zanni, Jennings, Dowson, Smith
Lakafia, Narraway, van Niekerk

Hodgson, Duvenage, Williams
Trinh-Duc, O'Gara

Nonu, Jauzion, Tindall, Bell, Trinder
Cueto, Visser, Thompstone, Turner
B.Smith, Lamont


London Welsh

Whitehead, Kayser, Bismarck
Alexander, Sturgess, Corbisiero
Kruger, Jones, Wilson
Simmons, Skivington, Schofield, Elstadt, Borthwick,
Dusautoir, Treviranus, McLaughlin, Welch, Johnson
Vermeulen, Beattie

Parra, Hougaard, Lawson, Davies
James, Henson, Humphreys

Davies, Casson, Spence, Cave, Downey
Trimble, Ioane, Fitzgerald, M.Smith, Habana,
Homer, Byrne


This change will happen on Monday after the final round of friendlies as we have both already submitted teams.


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Post by prop_lyd Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:38 pm

Well that makes it harder for me!!!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:39 pm

I think your in a place where you can handle it Prop.


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Post by Driver Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:41 pm

Pete

I had Charlie Davies not Haydn Thomas bud.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:42 pm

I had considered that fact as well prop, and I am in agreement with Steve that you have a good squad and it shouldn't be a problem. However if it does look as if it might become one then due consideration will be given to redressing the balance.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:43 pm

Cheers driver, I will amend accordingly.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:43 pm

This certainly will mix things up a bit.

Will Saracens remain in HC or will Pete's London Welsh compete in that competition.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:44 pm

Saracens remain in the Heino, and I will be competing in the Amlin.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:46 pm

Fair play Pete.

Not sure your best XV changes that much tbh lol

1. Corbs
2. BdP
3. Jones
4. Simmons
5. Skivs
6. TJ
7. Dus
8. Vermeulen

9. Parra
10. Farrell?
11. Ioane
12. Davies
13. ?
14. Habana
15. Homer

Def lost a some of your depth though, will be tough.

Driver happy then?

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Post by Guest Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:47 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Yea Bekker brings a big carrying option which they've missed.

Should be a cracker.

SA carry well in every position now apart from JDP who is not that bad either. Frightening carrying ability for a pack. Keegan Daniel is small but a good carrier

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:48 pm

I meant in the engine room.

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Post by Driver Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:49 pm

1.Mullen
2.Chuter
3.Big Ben
4.Flip
5.Ali
6.Dowsen
7.Rennie
8.JVN

9.Williams
10.Trinh Duc
11.Cueto
12.Nonu
13.Trinder
14.Visser
15.Smith
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Post by prop_lyd Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:55 pm

Ok cool well hopefully I'll keep you at the bottom somehow!!!!
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Post by Driver Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:57 pm

Lol,

Look forward to our games Prop , one of the highlights of my fixtures.
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:59 pm

Fairly big change tonight then - importantly who got to keep Henson...

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:13 pm

Wow big change. Good for the league.

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Post by Guest Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:23 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I meant in the engine room.

2 big carriers. Etzbeth Probably carried more yards in the semi final than England's second row did in the entire 6n.

Anything over 15m is huge for a 4 doing hard yards. Think he had close to 20 carries.

Bekker and etzbeth have such engines. Both like Richie gray in that respect. 2nd row role changing and becoming so athletic

Think Pienaar would be better for Steyn than hougaard due to better service and more stable play.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:32 pm

I don't think Etzbeth is a great carrier personally, good player though

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:56 pm

Drivers new Saracens page - https://www.606v2.com/t33755-saracens-rugby-football-club

My new London Welsh page - https://www.606v2.com/t33757-london-welsh-rfc

I have locked the old pages to comments.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:36 pm

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Sgt_Pooly wrote:I meant in the engine room.

2 big carriers. Etzbeth Probably carried more yards in the semi final than England's second row did in the entire 6n.

Anything over 15m is huge for a 4 doing hard yards. Think he had close to 20 carries.

Bekker and etzbeth have such engines. Both like Richie gray in that respect. 2nd row role changing and becoming so athletic

Think Pienaar would be better for Steyn than hougaard due to better service and more stable play.

He had 20 odd carries but only made around 20 metres....I think he actually made 2 decent carries that gave him that figure or he'd be around the single figure marks.

I rate Etzebeth but carrying isn't something he's fully mastered yet.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:41 pm

In comparison....

Bekker made 6 carries for 50 metres
Etzebeth made 18 carries for 21 metres

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Post by Guest Thu 16 Aug 2012, 7:07 am

Different roles etzbeth used in narrow channels and close to ruck he Is a 4.
Bekker a 5.

Bakkies Botha a great carrier. Always had less yards than matfield. He did hard yards in narrow channels close to ruck. Bakkies was a 4 matfield a 5.

It's quite simple really

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 16 Aug 2012, 8:22 am

It's simple if you make stuff up lol.....

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Post by Guest Thu 16 Aug 2012, 9:02 am

difference in roles. If you played the game you might understand it lol Very Happy

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 16 Aug 2012, 9:20 am

Yea I've actually played rugby before, what a daft comment.

Think we're better of agreeing to disagree on this one as neither of us will change opinion (as normal)

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Post by Guest Thu 16 Aug 2012, 9:33 am

Come on. Only having a chuckle

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 16 Aug 2012, 9:40 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Yea I've actually played rugby before, what a daft comment.

Think we're better of agreeing to disagree on this one as neither of us will change opinion (as normal)

Playing on a playstation doesn't count Wink Run
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Post by Guest Thu 16 Aug 2012, 9:50 am

or womens touch rugby

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 16 Aug 2012, 10:26 am

The following London Welsh players are available for transfer

Kayser
Schofield
Welch
Lawson
Charlie Davies
James
Humphreys
Downey
Trimble
Fitzgerald
Matt Smith
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 16 Aug 2012, 11:08 am

Pete by chance are you going to write your previews of the season for the real life AP again? Always enjoyed reading those!

How accurate were you last year with your predictions?

Top 4 for me this year:

Leicester
Quins
Saints
Sarries

Very hopeful Wasps will be in top 6 this year, have added quite a lot to the depth in our squad, but a bit buggered if we lose any of our front row!

And to demonstrate how much of a changed 606v2 contributor I am this year I have refrained from joining in the comments about playstation and women's touch rugby - last year I would most certainly have added 'don't you mean women's tag rugby'. Changed man...

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 16 Aug 2012, 11:26 am

Unlikely to have time mate, season is almost here and I am pretty busy at work and home right now.
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 16 Aug 2012, 11:37 am

How about a quick table prediction instead then? Got to be Welsh going down?

Think Exeter will really push top6 again, they've improved their team quite a bit, whilst others haven't been that active in the transfer market - think Quins have signed 2 players.

Saints have made some good signings, but don't think that they have replaced Ashton well enough.

Wasps probably made the biggest signings in terms of well known players, but can't see anyone beating Tigers who have added 5-6 really good additions and Matt Tait is apparently back playing!


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 16 Aug 2012, 11:45 am

Think Tait is injured again Chris

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 16 Aug 2012, 6:42 pm

I will be releasing Will Welch and Charlie Davies later this evening unles anyone wants to make me an offer for them.
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Post by Driver Thu 16 Aug 2012, 7:25 pm

I'd be in for Welchy Pete.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 16 Aug 2012, 7:27 pm

Make me an offer bud, cash or player?
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 16 Aug 2012, 8:23 pm

Rory Lawson will also be getting released unless anyone wants him.
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Post by stnick88 Thu 16 Aug 2012, 11:02 pm

Off on holiday tomorrow lads, back next Thursday to name team.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 16 Aug 2012, 11:08 pm

Have a good one mate.

I can't wait for the 4N, although the missus isn't keen on losing her Saturday mornings!

I'm off to Bahrain for month on Tuesday also, not sure of internet access so might struggle to name team/predict.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 16 Aug 2012, 11:29 pm

This is the last round of games before the season starts so now worries for the next couple of weeks with teams. Pooly, if you think you might be struggling to get one in for the R1 match do you want to nominate someone to do it on your behalf, or alternatively PM me a team to stick in for you.
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