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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:30 pm

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Upcoming Fixtures: AP R1 - Newcastle Falcons v Sale Sharks, Gloucester v Northampton Saints, London Welsh v Leicester Tigers, Saracens v London Irish, London Wasps v Harlequins, Worcester Warriors v Bath Rugby

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1. pullthestrings
2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by prop_lyd Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:32 am

As you know guys I'm off from 19th august till 5th september but have my teams on here on worcester holiday! Pete: I'm in for welch for cash too
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Post by dammit_chris Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:47 pm

Does anyone know where Argentina will play their home games in the RC? Is it in Argentina? There are some seriously good youngsters coming out of their at the moment, hope this move brings Argentinian rugby forwards.

Wonder whether there will ever be a Pacific Islands team in the RC?

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Post by Driver Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:57 pm

Guys,

Come the LV cup who would this team fair as a development side.

1.Max Lahiff
2.Scott Spurling
3.Phil Swainstone
4.Bryn Evans
5.Tom Jubb
6.Dave Ewers
7.George Smith
8.Rhys Ruddock (c)

9.Paul Hodgson
10.Paddy Jackson
11.Sep Visser
12.Yannick Jauzion
13.Chris Bell
14.Harry Robinson
15.Tom Catterick
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Post by dammit_chris Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:09 pm

Good mate, but Spurling is a long way off starting and would be a big weakness in my mind.

Rest of the team works for me!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:11 pm

Like it mate, don't see an issue with Spurling in the LV personally. He looks a massive talent.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:14 pm

Without wanting to blow my own trumpet I would like to think that side would struggle against the side I plan to put out in the LV Cup. But my LV cup side is hopefully going to be quite strong.

Think that front 5 will get a little bit mullered. Backs much stronger though.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:22 pm

Here is my (planned) LV side Driver

1. Wyatt Crockett
2. Rob Hawkins
3. Kieran Brookes
4. George Kruis
5. Hugh Pyle
6. Jamie Gibson
7. Chris Henry
8. Nick Easter
9. Karl Dickson
10. Felipe Contepomi
11. Joe Rokocoko
12. Jan Serfontein
13. Florian Fritz
14. Yoann Huget
15. Ross Chisholm

so you can judge for yourself

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:37 pm

Apart from Backrow & back 3 it would be hard to call really, few more Ints in Steve's team.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:55 pm

I'd have said my pack and half backs would sneak it with the extra experience and a few more caps under the belt.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:13 pm

Would be a good game, you might face each other and see

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Post by dammit_chris Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:34 pm

Hadnt thought of LV Cup sides, mine likely to be:

1. Sona Taulalolo
2. Matu Matu'a
3. Henry Thomas
4. no idea
5. no idea
6. Joe Launchbury
7. Calum Clark
8. Ashley Johnson
9. Joe Simpson
10. George Ford
11. Siti Siviatu
12. Matt Giteau
13. Matt Tait
14. Christian Wade
15. Danny Cipriani

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:29 pm

That's pretty much full strength Chris!

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Post by Driver Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:17 pm

Falcons smashing Edinburgh up front , showing why we're a premiership team.
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Post by dammit_chris Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:01 pm

Pooly I think only 3-4 of those make a match day squad. with only the big Tongan starting until Domingo is back fit!

Feeling positive about Wasps for next season, they just had a very good win against Leeds up north. Stephen Jones is going to make a HUGE difference. I don;t know how we got Tommy Bell from Sale, but he sounds a talent and apparently Billy Vunipola has been on a diet and is scoring for fun at the moment.

Can't wait for the season to start now!

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Post by Guest Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:20 pm

Think daly will be top this season and jones and launchbury to be ap regulars

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Post by Guest Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:46 pm

Do any of your teams have any of these fast track youth coming through?. Been with friends who are involved with glos tonight in operational capacity.

Apparently Elliot stookes out 6'6 120kg second row has been given one of these future stars England roles. Never knew the scheme existed. He has played England u20s at 17-18.Apparently England conditioning, coaching, lineout experts all spending 1 on 1 time with him and he is attending group sessions with the other selected future stars. Only about 8-12 players in the intake.

Wonder why they keep this secret. It's exactly what we have all said was needed.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:22 pm

That's why Kurtley Beale is not the worlds best full back. Defence substandard.

Oz defence in general been poor. Faainga had a bad miss early on. AAC got a bit lost there as well.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:23 pm

Carter kicking soooooo well

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Post by Driver Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:23 pm

Missing the important tackles , Faainga having a nightmare so far boshed of Nonu and SBW.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:26 pm

Aus all over the place at the minute

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:26 pm

Nightmare??

Only saw him miss the tackle on Nonu and in no world was he 'boshed' by him. It was fine footwork from Nonu, bit of a matador job.

Missed the SBW one so can't comment on it.

TPN is struggling with his hands.

Aaron Smith's service is sublime.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:28 pm

Think you had a bit of a result getting Nonu driver, I was gutted when I lost him doing the random squads! Sad
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:30 pm

Nonu looking great at 13 Pete, could be an option

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:34 pm

Aus needed 7 there, great defence by AB's

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Post by Driver Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:40 pm

Faainga is playing awful. Don't think Aus have done a backs move yet. If i was deans i would of took a punt and went

10.Cooper
11.Mitchell
12.Barnes
13.AAC
14.Ioane
15.Beale

Which is a miles better backline.


Yeah I was quite chuffed to get him Pete , gives me some star dust in my backs.


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Post by Driver Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:41 pm

Higgenbottom how are you a international! Never steps up for Aus.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:42 pm

Handling is shocking!!! Looks like a pre-season

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Post by Driver Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:43 pm

Lee Jones would fit into this Australia side Pooly lol.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:45 pm

Beale needs to be taken off, his head has gone.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:13 pm

So clever McCaw, great break Dagg....having a v good game

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:15 pm

Australia are playing some terrible stuff with some shocking basics and are somehow still in this game!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:18 pm

I know it's crazy, AB's much better but seen little ball in Aus half really.

Any Aus player apart from Genia get in this NZ side?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:24 pm

I'd have Ioane ahead of Hosea Gear but thats about it.

I'm a Stephen Moore fan though, he at his best gets close to the AB side.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:37 pm

Mat think you could be right about Daly - think hes a real talent, good rugby brain, speed and great kicker. Bit concerned that Dae Young will opt for two big centres instead of flair.

Launchbury will def get a lot of game time and Jones will when they move big Joe into the second row. Guessing from the game v Leeds we will go Haskell, Poff and AJ as backrow, Palmer and Wentzel locks with Launchbury and Jones our subs.

Anyone going to the London Double Header?

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Post by stnick88 Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:55 pm

Yep. U?

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:13 pm

On the train to Kingsholm so the other half can experience the shed!! Glawsterrrrrrrrrrr
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:03 pm

NZ were scrappy but completely bossed that game. From the scrum to the breakdown, they just never looked in trouble.

The ball Aus did have they struggled with. Fa'ainga & Horne are an awful combination, they did not compliment each other at all and provided nothing going forward (not knocking them individually but as a combo).

Aus need to step up intensity at the breakdown and give poor Genia some fast ball.

AAC needs to come into midfield to give some straight hard running to play off (Aus on main board agree), I think Cooper should be brought back in too so Barnes can move to 12. For next game:

9. Genia
10. Cooper
11. Mitchell
12. Barnes
13. AAC
14. Ioane
15. Beale

JOC back for 3rd test apparently

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:23 pm

yeah Nick, I got my tickets a few weeks ago, could only get upper tier behind the posts though, think it's right next to the Irish fans seats.

Should be good fun, could be quite a lot of alcohol flowing too! Thinking of going into Whitton before hand and visiting the three pubs on route to Twickenham!

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:35 pm

Not seen game but read reports that Australia struggled for ball and that nz were rusty and did not take their chances.

What's everyone's opinion ?

Personally l think that Aussie back will struggle to win forward battle and lack of carriers in back row




Been at lords and can say I am suitably sunburnt. How did we go today prop? What side did we put out. Beautiful day for it.

Pitch has gone flat with the sun and new ball not doing much.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:39 pm

Aus had plenty of ball but we're awful with it, only really Genia played ok. Beale had the worst game of his life, he'll never play worse.

AB's just did enough. Carter played well for you, Gear was quiet, Dagg was excellent.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:44 pm

my word the SA v Argentina game is absolutely brutal.

Argentinians have thrown everything into it and look dead on their feet. Been impressed with them in the breakdown, but they simply don't have anything outside Hernandez.

Mat think you've summed it up pretty well without watching the game. Aussie pack seemed to lack carriers, but at the same time they made a ridiculously high number of handling errors so never got a chance to get going.

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:14 pm

Won 20-8 matt.
Experimental side but morgan and 12T played too. 12T was at 10, tried too offload too much. Dominated up front but didn't get the ball to Sharples or Clark enough, Lewis is stupidly slow and Robson needs work on decision making. Will James, Rob Cook and Kalamofila (sp) did well when on. Got a pen try with front row of: Murphy-Britton-Knight too!!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:24 pm

Looks like I have Bismarck back for the start of the season. Out for the rest of the RC and possibly 6 or 7 months. Although it could be a reasonable length lay off, he probably won't miss any club rugby, only internationals as it's the Super Rugby off season.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:27 pm

Whats happened to him Pete?

Got pretty lucky there really, he'll keep rating for most people on here.

Think Matt ceases to admit they exsist after 6 month or something but he might just sneak in Wink

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:30 pm

Damaged his knee ligaments, was stretchered off. Meyer reckons could be out up to 7 months, but got to have scans in the week.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:37 pm

Nasty, Burger had similar and has been wiped out for year.

Comes at a nice time really, holds a good rating with me for a fair while as a world class player.

Shame about all these top players BdP, Juan Smith, Burger etc getting big injuries. They are great to watch....poor SA could field a world class team of cripples

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:40 pm

The Saffas do seem to pick up a lot of injuries, but then they play such an attritional brand of rugby it's hardly a surprise really. Looks like Strauss will start at hooker next week with Liebenberg on the bench.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:42 pm

I really like Strauss but he's no BdP, will be a huge loss for Boks. Liebenburg has had a belting season, big scrummager. Deserves his chance.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:45 pm

I like Liebenberg, was tempted to buy him in this game, just not sure how others see him for ratings.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:55 pm

He looks like a 40yo darts player....

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