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Post by Dave. Thu 09 Aug 2012, 10:39 pm

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I'm going to a wedding tomorrow. Talking about weddings, a 25th is normally silver. But not in these Olympics. We are now on 25 Golds, safe in 3rd place, and make no doubt it, this has been our most successful Games ever, period. And truth be told, these are also the best Games ever, even topping Sydney. They are nearly over, but we can still add to our gold total - both 470s go in their medal race, Lisa Dobriskey in the 1500m, Shanaze Reade in the BMX, Sarah Stevenson in Taekwondo and I'm sure much more surprises on the way!

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Fri 10 Aug 2012, 4:43 pm

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LeinsterFan4life wrote:I know dummy thats why i said it would never happen. But there have been irishmen who have asked their medals to be credited to ireland but have been refused.

I think it would be impossble to credit a medal to a country that didn't exist at the time of the competition, regardless of the political situation. If the IOC were to do that for Ireland, they'd open such a can of worms regarding the former Soviet and Yugoslav states that it just can't happen. It may be disappointing for the individuals involved, but it's the only reasonable way to proceed.
I think that if someone asks for their medal to be credited to ireland, the right thing to do would be to honour his wishes would it not? Its only sport at the end of the day.

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Post by alfie Fri 10 Aug 2012, 4:50 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:And now Phillips falls over. Wow

Cheer up PSW

Hockey girls have the bronze wrapped up ...

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Post by Duty281 Fri 10 Aug 2012, 4:51 pm

Once we've won the hockey, it'll be 2 Silver and 2 Bronze today for GB.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 10 Aug 2012, 4:57 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
dummy_half wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:I know dummy thats why i said it would never happen. But there have been irishmen who have asked their medals to be credited to ireland but have been refused.

I think it would be impossble to credit a medal to a country that didn't exist at the time of the competition, regardless of the political situation. If the IOC were to do that for Ireland, they'd open such a can of worms regarding the former Soviet and Yugoslav states that it just can't happen. It may be disappointing for the individuals involved, but it's the only reasonable way to proceed.
I think that if someone asks for their medal to be credited to ireland, the right thing to do would be to honour his wishes would it not? Its only sport at the end of the day.

Not if they won it competing for someone else

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Post by Duty281 Fri 10 Aug 2012, 7:53 pm

Baton change error for GB means no place in the final. Same old, same old.

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Post by EnglishReign Fri 10 Aug 2012, 8:07 pm

Gutted by that error. The boys were looking very fast.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 10 Aug 2012, 8:38 pm

I missed it, was it the 4X100 relay?
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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 10 Aug 2012, 8:43 pm

Always going to happen, one of the most sure fire bets in Athletics these days. Which is why I put 50 quid on it Very Happy

As for that US 4X100m Run....WOW Just WOW!! That was probably the 4 best bits of running in these Olympics and that includes Bolt!

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Post by eirebilly Fri 10 Aug 2012, 8:49 pm

I am sorry but John Inverdale really is the pits.
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Post by eirebilly Fri 10 Aug 2012, 8:55 pm

Come on Lisa Dobriskey, she has a big chance here for a medal. Not the gold but a medal Very Happy
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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 10 Aug 2012, 8:55 pm

Haha...I said the other day, I even offered money for someone to take him out but no contract killers were around on the board on the day!!...

He is bloody awful, if any presenter is a one trick pony it's him. He knows a little bit about Rugby but has seemingly traded off that and managed to get his face on every other Sports show/tournament etc...

The man is clueless and stumbles his way through every sentence. Im struggling to decide who is worse him or Adrian Chiles...

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Post by Crimey Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:00 pm

Him and Colin Jackson together makes me want to cry. Should have got Claire Balding down there! Considering she had no background in swimming, her presenting has probably been the best so far.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:03 pm

Well done the Turkish Lady, first ever gold medal for them in History clap
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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:03 pm

Big Chance?! Not sure....that was painful to watch. If their is a way to run the wrong race that was it,,,not quite sure what she was doing their to be honest. Be interesting to see what her thoughts are on that.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:04 pm

I really hated Clare Balding at first but her quality as a presenter have grown on me and i would much rather her than Inverdale.
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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:08 pm

Oh and that guy who does the interviews downstairs aswell...

'alot of people were expecting a medal going into this'....

Smooth, Very smooth.... picard

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Post by eirebilly Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:10 pm

In fairness, given Dobriskey's times leading up to the Olympics, i thought that she had a big chance of a medal.
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Post by eirebilly Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:16 pm

Hey Inverdale, why dont you interupt an Olympic champions question? That will show just how clever you are...
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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:17 pm

Eire - I know what you mean but as I have said a few times, especially with regards to swimming,competing on the European circuit and competing at the Olympics are an entirely different thing.

If you look at alot of our middle to long distance runners very few are capable tactically in a race. Most are very naive and either won't take the lead and set out a tactic they want running...or they don't seemingly have the nouse to switch up the tactics during the race....

As soon as the group were boxing Lisa should have been moving out wide, even if it meant covering that little extra distance it would have meant she would have been up on the curtail of the group with 500 left...as it was she was left floundering really.

That is why i give Mo so much credit because he has moved to America and does training camps out in Africa where he is able to run against the best, train with the best & ultimately be able to complete both from a physical & mental stand point.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:20 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:Eire - I know what you mean but as I have said a few times, especially with regards to swimming,competing on the European circuit and competing at the Olympics are an entirely different thing.

If you look at alot of our middle to long distance runners very few are capable tactically in a race. Most are very naive and either won't take the lead and set out a tactic they want running...or they don't seemingly have the nouse to switch up the tactics during the race....

As soon as the group were boxing Lisa should have been moving out wide, even if it meant covering that little extra distance it would have meant she would have been up on the curtail of the group with 500 left...as it was she was left floundering really.

That is why i give Mo so much credit because he has moved to America and does training camps out in Africa where he is able to run against the best, train with the best & ultimately be able to complete both from a physical & mental stand point.

Possibly one of the most astute points i have read during the Olympics.
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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:24 pm

Was that a hint of sarcasm eire....

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Post by eirebilly Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:27 pm

Not at all, you obviously know your stuff. Just appreciated your post.
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Post by Skydriver Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:33 pm

Lutalo Muhammad has just won a bronze medal the hard way.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:34 pm

Lutalo Muhammad has won Bronze for GB. clap 2 Silver, 3 Bronze today for GB.

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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:36 pm

ah ok fair enough...you never know with this board!!

It was a very frustrating 1500m to watch, very dour & the winner certainly left a sour taste in the mouth.

I have been covering quite alot of the games as I do sports journalism, so it is good that I know my stuff (although that is rare even in my surroundings sadly)...plus I used to run 1500m so have an interest in it.

It's funny because if you look at alot of our sports it is the same story....plenty of effort, heart, determination & even athleticism....but tactically and technically very many are poor...

That is a problem, IMO, which needs to be sorted at the bottom of the ladder in schools & youth sports clubs. Without the changes at that grass roots level it will remain to be the case for many years to come..

It is at a young age kids are like a sponge and will soak up the information/coaching methods taught...once they reach that junior age i.e. 16 upwards it becomes much more difficult to implement changes.


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Post by EnglishReign Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:37 pm

Dobriskey disappoints again! So talented, it's such a shame.

I don't know what planet she's on, but way too happy in that interview. She's a lovely girl but not a competitive athlete.

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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:43 pm

That time of day.....dodgy decisions in the boxing time Smile ...here goes!!

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Post by Shelsey93 Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:44 pm

I don't think Dobriskey's chances were ever that high, having watched the heats. She should at least have run a better tactical race though.

Overall today was very disappointing. No golds despite a whole host of chances - Sailing x2, BMX x2, Taekwondo x2 - and none of the outsiders knicking a medal in the Athletics.

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Post by Crimey Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:51 pm

Fred Evans guaranteed at least a silver in the boxing! Beat the world number 1 so surely must be favourite for the gold?

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Post by Duty281 Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:53 pm

Fred Evans of GB has won in his boxing Semi-Final against the World Number 1 11-10, he's now in the final and will leave London with at least a Silver.

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Post by EnglishReign Fri 10 Aug 2012, 10:00 pm

Tom Daley struggling! Needs a top 18 to qualify, currently 16th - eek!

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Post by Duty281 Fri 10 Aug 2012, 10:03 pm

And only one dive to go as well. His fifth dive was a shocker.

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Post by Guest Fri 10 Aug 2012, 10:03 pm

Has there ever been a more over hyped British Olympian than Daley?

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Post by Duty281 Fri 10 Aug 2012, 10:05 pm

FreekShow wrote:Has there ever been a more over hyped British Olympian than Daley?

I think he's only a posterboy for the Olympics because of his looks. A bit like Ennis being a postergirl because of her looks, but at least Ennis showed ability.

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Post by EnglishReign Fri 10 Aug 2012, 10:06 pm

To be honest, I don't really get the hype but wasn't he world champion not long ago? Bit of a media wh0re though.

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Post by Crimey Fri 10 Aug 2012, 10:06 pm

I think it's a combination of doing so well at the Beijing Olympics at 14, and then becoming a teenage girl heartthrob that have made him so hyped. He's very easily marketable.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 10 Aug 2012, 10:09 pm

He may be struggling with the pressure, only 18, Home Olympics. Here he comes, he has to get this right...and he does. Just. He should make the semi-finals which are tomorrow morning.

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Post by EnglishReign Fri 10 Aug 2012, 10:10 pm

A 14 year old Olympian is quite impressive though, was world number 1 at 16.

Think all of the photoshoots might have caused a distraction since.

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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 10 Aug 2012, 10:11 pm

Freek & Duty..he certainly has been a little hyped but I wouldn't give him to much criticism.

He is actually probably 2-3 years away from being anywhere near peak for diving. For his age he has done incredibly well in almost all major competitions...bar the Olympics actually.

What you have to remember is that he actually only recently increased the execution of some of his dives. In fact it was only 18 months ago he could even begin practicing the more difficult 'execution' dives....

I do think being a poster boy has hindered him in the build up to these games...and you have to admit..if you were his age and you had everyone saying your an Olympic medallist in waiting etc you would probably be a little overwhelmed with the pressue..

The funniest thing is that the media have hyped him for a Gold even though the young Chinese lads have had every competition wrapped up in the last 2 years!!


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Post by Duty281 Fri 10 Aug 2012, 10:12 pm

For the semis, he'll have to make the top 12 to make the Final which will require a massive improvement. I think he'll make the final but he won't medal. And fellow Brit Waterfield hasn't made the semis.

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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 10 Aug 2012, 10:16 pm

Yeh I hope that the nerves are all out of the way now and he just gets out and blocks everything out and gets on with it tomorrow.

He has had scores of 565 & 547 in 2012 so if it all comes to together he certainly has the potential to medal.

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Fri 10 Aug 2012, 10:18 pm

Crimey wrote:Fred Evans guaranteed at least a silver in the boxing! Beat the world number 1 so surely must be favourite for the gold?

Nah faces Sapiyev in the final. If I owned a house, I would put it on Sapiyev. He is really top class.

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Post by Crimey Fri 10 Aug 2012, 10:22 pm

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Crimey wrote:Fred Evans guaranteed at least a silver in the boxing! Beat the world number 1 so surely must be favourite for the gold?

Nah faces Sapiyev in the final. If I owned a house, I would put it on Sapiyev. He is really top class.

Can't say I know anything about boxing, was just going on the rankings. I know it doesn't work that way all the time, but I assumed as the world number 2, having beaten the world number 1 he'd be favourite for the final...guess not. Laugh

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Fri 10 Aug 2012, 10:37 pm

Haha, the ranking's can be deceptive in Amateur boxing. Only judge on your performances on ranking tournaments over a two year period. There hasnt been a ranking tournament this year so they are all based on 2011 performances.

As of now, all but two World number ones have been eliminated, I think.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 10 Aug 2012, 11:24 pm

Oh God,i thought that it was the end of Ian Thorpe?
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Post by Postie Sat 11 Aug 2012, 12:02 am

Sapiyev will start as fav, but with the crowd behind him, Evans most definately has a chance .

Campbell v Nevin could go either way, although I'd fancy Campbell to shade it.Joshua will beat Cammarelle to win at least one Gold.

If GB manage 2 of the 3, I'd be happy.


Thorpe, gay as a badger.Enough already.

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