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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
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2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
POS | Aviva Premiership | PLAYED | WON | DREW | LOST | P F | P A | P D | T F | T A | TBP | LBP | POINTS | |
1 | Leicester Tigers | 6 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 153 | 118 | +35 | 16 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 24 | |
2 | Newcastle Falcons | 6 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 149 | 136 | +13 | 14 | 12 | 0 | 1 | 21 | |
3 | Northampton Saints | 6 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 161 | 143 | +18 | 19 | 14 | 2 | 2 | 20 | |
4 | London Irish | 6 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 162 | 145 | +17 | 18 | 15 | 2 | 2 | 20 | |
5 | Harlequins | 6 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 150 | 138 | +12 | 16 | 14 | 1 | 2 | 19 | |
6 | Sale Sharks | 6 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 151 | 143 | +8 | 16 | 14 | 1 | 3 | 16 | |
7 | Gloucester | 6 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 144 | 143 | +1 | 15 | 14 | 0 | 2 | 14 | |
8 | Bath Rugby | 6 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 132 | 147 | -15 | 11 | 16 | 0 | 3 | 11 | |
9 | London Wasps | 6 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 133 | 149 | -16 | 13 | 16 | 0 | 3 | 11 | |
10 | London Welsh | 6 | 1 | 0 | 5 | 132 | 142 | -10 | 13 | 13 | 0 | 5 | 9 | |
11 | Worcester Warriors | 6 | 1 | 0 | 5 | 132 | 147 | -25 | 12 | 17 | 0 | 3 | 7 | |
12 | Saracens | 6 | 1 | 0 | 5 | 123 | 161 | -38 | 10 | 19 | 0 | 2 | 6 |
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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.
Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.
Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.
Transfers wrote:
- Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.- Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.- Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.
Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation
Compensation will be paid as follows
£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other
If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.
In addition, each team must have the following:-
At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.
At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.
All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).
Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.
If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.
Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.
Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.
Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.
£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.
AP finishing positions.
Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m
Heineken Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million
Amlin Challenge Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million
Anglo-Welsh Cup
Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million
If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
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Sorry SJE I thought it was me you'd disagreed with. Missed Chris' comment altogether.
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No worries mate I agree Lions will be picked on Heino, AI and 6 nations performances. I think the Prem and Rabo are to far down from international level to base a judgement on for the Lions.
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Good article after the tripe put out that was stating Hartley was world class:
http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2012/sep/11/leicester-manu-tuilagi-premiership?cat=sport&type=article
http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2012/sep/11/leicester-manu-tuilagi-premiership?cat=sport&type=article
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Way I see the difference is that the Rabo league is very much set up for th ebenefits of the national teams, and targeting the HC, whilst due to the nature of French and English leagues the onus is very much put on the clubs that qualify for the HC and then avoid relegation.
Not a fan of the setup really, you see a lot of English club players playing games with injuries because there is so much at stake.
But would easily say that a full strength Leinster team is the best in Europe and can't see an English team winning the HC in a very long time.
Not a fan of the setup really, you see a lot of English club players playing games with injuries because there is so much at stake.
But would easily say that a full strength Leinster team is the best in Europe and can't see an English team winning the HC in a very long time.
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Good news for Steve:
http://www.rugby365.com/article/49572
http://www.rugby365.com/article/49572
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Haha Robert Kitson sometimes make Stephen Jones look a decent reporter! Got awful journalists for rugby there, think Telegraph has the best, along with the Times (minus Stephen Jones).
Come on Pooly find a good journalist to back your points up with
Come on Pooly find a good journalist to back your points up with
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Could be good news for me if Malherbe gets a start and impresses, as I know there are probably some in this game who haven't seen that much of him.
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It's just helped me see who your rugby views mirror up with it's somewhere between Stephen Jones and Robert Kitson - this isn't a good sign, next stop is Guscott style predos and views...a slippery, slippery slope!
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No I watch rugby and forge my own opinion lol
I only posted in response to your bizarre Hartley world class claim.
Shall we leave this now??? It's getting boring again
I only posted in response to your bizarre Hartley world class claim.
Shall we leave this now??? It's getting boring again
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Reading your guys bickering is the worst part of this game. So dull.
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How has palmer made only 3 metres from 9 carries!! Not bad from skiv he needs to carry more for us! Garvey usually has very good carry stats. No suprise to see Gray topping that though.
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It'll calm down now Luke, we don't play again for a few months.
Me and chris usually fall out around the time we play, the player slagging off reaches it peak then tails off in wait for the next match up.
Me and chris usually fall out around the time we play, the player slagging off reaches it peak then tails off in wait for the next match up.
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Parling has made 36m for 11 carries
Hartley has made 29m for 14 carries
Other top locks in AP:
Robson: 20m in 8 carries
Attwood 15m in 2 carries (pretty efficient!)
Skivington 11m in 2 carries (again efficient)
Palmer 3m in 9 carries (wtf????)
Gray: 18m in 2 carries (very efficient!!!)
Botha: 7m in 13 carries
Borthwick: 18m in 13 carries
I really hate these sort of stats as they actually tell us nothing. Was the player in question hanging back and fielded a kick and ran into 20 metres of open space thereby appearing to have made good metres on the stats, or did he carry in tight areas with a couple of props and back row hanging off him???
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Very true pete. Either way, 3 metres from 9 carries is a bit odd!
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Yes, an average of 30 centimetres per carry is pretty gash!
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Pooly you do love your stats bit as ever have no context. Parling has played in 2 cake walk games including vs London welsh.
Those stats so misleading.
Especially after 2 games. Attwood has been sub and come on and had one great run.
Palmer was sub in first game and came on when quins were startling to turn round the game from 40 odd down.
Wasps were getting smashed so I imagine he was in negative.
Hartleys carries have come In tough games parlings have been in routine wins as has The Saracens locks stats.
Or are you going to start saying Parling Botha and borthwick are good ball carriers ?
Those stats so misleading.
Especially after 2 games. Attwood has been sub and come on and had one great run.
Palmer was sub in first game and came on when quins were startling to turn round the game from 40 odd down.
Wasps were getting smashed so I imagine he was in negative.
Hartleys carries have come In tough games parlings have been in routine wins as has The Saracens locks stats.
Or are you going to start saying Parling Botha and borthwick are good ball carriers ?
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Also amazed Gray has had the ball in his hand 2 times he usually has about 8 carries for the sweaties.
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Stats don't lie Matt lol
Can only play what's in front of you, Quins played Welsh too...Robson??
Agree they're a little gray but look good! Unless your Tom Palmer
Can only play what's in front of you, Quins played Welsh too...Robson??
Agree they're a little gray but look good! Unless your Tom Palmer
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Stats over a season I can take as having value. To be fair palmer known for being a good carrier.
Compare those Parling stats to his 6 nations ones.
Also depends where you carry. Bakkies, johnson great carriers but low yardage as did tough yards
Compare those Parling stats to his 6 nations ones.
Also depends where you carry. Bakkies, johnson great carriers but low yardage as did tough yards
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No you're wrong, Parling is obviously the best carrying lock in AP...you know nothing and the stats don't lie.
(as the season progresses and my players stats fall off....)
Stats mean little tbh etc etc
(as the season progresses and my players stats fall off....)
Stats mean little tbh etc etc
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Do wonder how they take these stats as well. Must be impossible as rugby so disjointed And all action. Must be a mare
Do wonder how they take these stats as well. Must be impossible as rugby so disjointed And all action. Must be a mare
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I was joking! No fall outs from me this season, as not fair on the rest of you at all after last year. Being as good as gold this year...
Just not a fan of Robert Kitson in the Guardian, or the Guardian's sports coverage, much prefer Telegraph as think they have some great writers, apart from Ackford, not his biggest fan since he tried to have a massive row with Martin Johnson.
Stuart Barnes also (perhaps surprisingly) writes really well in the Times (I think).
Worst pundit for me is Guscott, he annoys me so much. He never gets any predictions right and just comes across as so arrogant its untrue.
Just not a fan of Robert Kitson in the Guardian, or the Guardian's sports coverage, much prefer Telegraph as think they have some great writers, apart from Ackford, not his biggest fan since he tried to have a massive row with Martin Johnson.
Stuart Barnes also (perhaps surprisingly) writes really well in the Times (I think).
Worst pundit for me is Guscott, he annoys me so much. He never gets any predictions right and just comes across as so arrogant its untrue.
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I think it's Opta that does it Matt. Had a chat with a lad on main board about it before and he reckons its big business.
The yards stat is positive/negitive, I remember Borthwick having a negitive carrying stat for England a few years back.
The yards stat is positive/negitive, I remember Borthwick having a negitive carrying stat for England a few years back.
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Ben Youngs back for the AIs now, apparently recovered v quickly from shoulder op. Could be a big boost
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That could be big news. If Karl Dickson starts ahead of Care this week then it will make for a very interesting battle for the 9 shirt.
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Where did you hear that Chris?
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http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8071527,00.html
Fantastic player and great signing. Unlucky not to be in Boks set up. I have considered buying on many occasions. Can play all 3 backrow positions well
Fantastic player and great signing. Unlucky not to be in Boks set up. I have considered buying on many occasions. Can play all 3 backrow positions well
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Louw in for Coetzee for Boks. Wary of McCaw dominating breakdown.
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Pete was in the Telegraph - not sure if he will be match fit though.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/news/9536821/Leicester-Tigers-Ben-Youngs-primed-to-return-before-England-start-Autumn-series-with-Fiji-clash.html
Think he's the one no9 we have who is capable of being world class, all the others are good players and bring different things to the team, very impressed at the tempo that Dickson brings to Saints.
Hope he gets his form back consistently.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/news/9536821/Leicester-Tigers-Ben-Youngs-primed-to-return-before-England-start-Autumn-series-with-Fiji-clash.html
Think he's the one no9 we have who is capable of being world class, all the others are good players and bring different things to the team, very impressed at the tempo that Dickson brings to Saints.
Hope he gets his form back consistently.
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Steve I was really impressed with how Dickson played for Quins against Wasps, I thought Care did ok, but the change in the game completely coincided with when Dickson came on - though also when Haskell went off.
Didnt realise the Sarries v Tigers game was at Wembley - should be a really good game, Tigers defence has been pretty poor so far but their attack has looked very good, ten tries in two games. That Goneva looks the best signing of the season, amazed he was playing Div2 rugby in France last year!
Be interesting to see how Tomkins does if he is up against Manu - would imagine they'd be very keen to get Farrell back so Barritt can move to 13.
Didnt realise the Sarries v Tigers game was at Wembley - should be a really good game, Tigers defence has been pretty poor so far but their attack has looked very good, ten tries in two games. That Goneva looks the best signing of the season, amazed he was playing Div2 rugby in France last year!
Be interesting to see how Tomkins does if he is up against Manu - would imagine they'd be very keen to get Farrell back so Barritt can move to 13.
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dammit_chris wrote:Pete was in the Telegraph - not sure if he will be match fit though.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/news/9536821/Leicester-Tigers-Ben-Youngs-primed-to-return-before-England-start-Autumn-series-with-Fiji-clash.html
Think he's the one no9 we have who is capable of being world class, all the others are good players and bring different things to the team, very impressed at the tempo that Dickson brings to Saints.
Hope he gets his form back consistently.
Am surprised as Cockerill and Tigers are normally very tight lipped over injured players and when they will be back.
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He pretty much told Jordan Crane he wouldnt play for Tigers again if he ever mentioned an injury on Twitter again!
Youngs played some good rugby at the end of last season, it could be a case that this extra injury lay off could do the world of good for him, think a lot of the problems we get is that players in the AP are overplayed and play with injuries.
Best example is Wasps last year, we had so many players getting injured for 2-3 months as they played on with little niggles, think it was a total of 18 first team players who missed at least 2 months of the season last year due to injuries!
Youngs played some good rugby at the end of last season, it could be a case that this extra injury lay off could do the world of good for him, think a lot of the problems we get is that players in the AP are overplayed and play with injuries.
Best example is Wasps last year, we had so many players getting injured for 2-3 months as they played on with little niggles, think it was a total of 18 first team players who missed at least 2 months of the season last year due to injuries!
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that was hurrendous for you chris.
irish injury/ban list is shocking at the moment
Corbisiero
Garvey
Hala'ufia
Paice
Gibson
Humphreys
Geraghty
Ansbro
Sa
Allinson
Griffiths
6 of them would be starters
irish injury/ban list is shocking at the moment
Corbisiero
Garvey
Hala'ufia
Paice
Gibson
Humphreys
Geraghty
Ansbro
Sa
Allinson
Griffiths
6 of them would be starters
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Buckland is also long term injured and Blaney came off injured in the A game on Monday night. I also heard earlier that Lahiff is carrying a knock.
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That might mean Ellis gets a bench spot for Wasps game.
Hopefully Geraghty will make the Wasps game as we need Shingler at 12 and Tagi back out wide.
Hopefully Geraghty will make the Wasps game as we need Shingler at 12 and Tagi back out wide.
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he was ok against Glos, did well for Ojo's try, but he is wasted there.
he always beats his first man outwide and 1 on 1 you always fancy him.
if up against wade or varndell this weekend, he would terrorise them in attack.
he always beats his first man outwide and 1 on 1 you always fancy him.
if up against wade or varndell this weekend, he would terrorise them in attack.
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Definitely hoping that Tagi is made to play in the centres again for this weekend! Wade and Varndell both pretty good tacklers, but they are quite naive in defensive positioning at present, which Tagi would exploit - got to be one of the best wings to play in the AP.
Hoping Wasps get to winning ways this weekend, just need to stop trying to over play/offload and get some structure in the game, made so many errors against Bath and could have won that.
Hoping Wasps get to winning ways this weekend, just need to stop trying to over play/offload and get some structure in the game, made so many errors against Bath and could have won that.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/19572489?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
bad news.
i disagree that wade and varndell are good tacklers. both great attackers but defense isnt there strong points. Tagi also isnt the greatest tackler but so strong and in attack so hard to stop.
you probably will beat us this weekend chris, we never win at adams park and have so many players missing we are struggling.
bad news.
i disagree that wade and varndell are good tacklers. both great attackers but defense isnt there strong points. Tagi also isnt the greatest tackler but so strong and in attack so hard to stop.
you probably will beat us this weekend chris, we never win at adams park and have so many players missing we are struggling.
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They arent great defensive wingers say compared to say guys like Ashton, AAC etc, but at Wasps Varndell's tackling has come on leaps and bounds, and Wade definitely tackles better than his size.
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Anyone seen the news of BT taking over the Prem? Hope the Prem site keeps its highlights/replays up or I won't be seeing any Prem rugby next year
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Does that mean we have to pay to watch it online now then? Or will Sky have to bid for games off of them too? It is confusing.
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Think you will have to get the BT box to watch it from what I've read but they aren't set up over here! BT haven't come out with how they will be showing it yet. Bet Sky are well peed. Prem sold the right to Euro games from 2014 onwards as well
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At least I can get rid of my ESPN subscription!
I'm doing quite a bit of work with BT at the moment, so will bug them for tickets and a free BT box!!!
I'm doing quite a bit of work with BT at the moment, so will bug them for tickets and a free BT box!!!
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You will need to subscribe to BT Vision and it will the be availible via the usual platforms (Sky/Virgin Media etc)
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might be worth sacking sky off then and getting BT vision as that has sky sports 1 and 2 and ESPN.
i only ever use sky for sports. freeview has every other channel i watch like bbc3, e4, itv2 etc.
i only ever use sky for sports. freeview has every other channel i watch like bbc3, e4, itv2 etc.
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I doubt ESPN will survive as a channel. What have they got now?? Some foreign football really.
I am disappointed that Sky have lost it. I am content with there coverage. Will they still have the HC and internationals?
I am disappointed that Sky have lost it. I am content with there coverage. Will they still have the HC and internationals?
Steven_Sharks- Posts : 7528
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Location : Chester/Manchester
Re: Homepage
Delighted I have BT vision...
LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
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Age : 40
Location : London
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