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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 30 Aug 2012, 10:59 pm

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Waiting List
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2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Sun 07 Oct 2012, 7:49 pm

Robson mint game all round.

Cowan may struggle for a place.


His kicking amazing. Shows how he played 10 at England u 20s level as well as 9

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Post by Guest Sun 07 Oct 2012, 7:52 pm

Robson mint game all round.

Cowan may struggle for a place.


His kicking amazing. Shows how he played 10 at England u 20s level as well as 9

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 07 Oct 2012, 7:59 pm

Fluxy wrote:If you boys don't mind me commenting on here I will. But I agree with you Pooly. Like I said to CJB, Wilson is probably second best EQ TH at the moment.

Feel free to come and comment any time you like Fluxy mate, the more the merrier. OK
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 08 Oct 2012, 3:59 pm

Does anyone have Camacho?

Swear he's made nearly every team of the week in the RC.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 08 Oct 2012, 4:03 pm

I released him last year mate so hes available in foreigns now

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 08 Oct 2012, 5:14 pm

blooming hell Toulon sign another ex Springbok in Danie Rossouw - is there a salary cap in France at all? I am sure it got reduced quite a lot recently, how on earth do Toulon stay within it - their 'B' team is pretty much all international players.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 08 Oct 2012, 5:26 pm

Shaw, Botha, Roussow....they like their 4's

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 08 Oct 2012, 5:33 pm

Wonder how much they are all on, must be 6 figure salaries.

Should really start drawing comic books as the Toulon guy must be absolutely racking it in with that!

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Post by Driver Mon 08 Oct 2012, 5:50 pm

Thorn set to join highlanders as well.
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 08 Oct 2012, 6:24 pm

Driver saw you mention which English players could make the step up into Saxons or full England squad - I've been very impressed with Kitchener at Tigers this year, looks like he's added a lot of ball carrying to his game this year.

Though really think that we need to start bringing both Freddie Burns and George Ford into the full set up now - Burns looks very good, but hear his brother could be better? and Ford showed last week against Sale that he is very, very good.

For me though I really have been impressed with Launchbury again this season, have some Wasps biased with this but think he could be a future star, when he plays for us he gets the whole pack moving forward and sets our tempo brilliantly.

Really like the look of Mako Vunipola for Sarries, apparently Billy might be moving there in the summer too, think that would be a massive mistake by him if he did! Joe Marler also has improved again, but doesnt seem to be carrying as much?

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Post by Driver Mon 08 Oct 2012, 6:46 pm

Joe ford was gash against falcons last week fella
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 08 Oct 2012, 6:53 pm

Joe Ford isn't that great compared to his brother. He's an ok fly half, but when George went there on loan last season he went straight into the no10 shirt without doing any training and replaced Joe.

Don't think Joe will ever get into an AP team.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 08 Oct 2012, 6:53 pm

Meant Freddie Burns brother Driver - Mat, hear he is pretty good and also plays at no10?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 08 Oct 2012, 7:58 pm

http://www.sarugby.com/news.cfm?newsid=21371

Goosen out of AI's, possibly 6 months. Doesn't have much luck this lad.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 08 Oct 2012, 8:43 pm

Pete/Nick how has JJ been playing for Irish recently? Chatting to some guys who watched him a few times recently and they;ve been saying he's picking up some nice form just before the AI's - England bench spot?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 08 Oct 2012, 8:50 pm

He's been garbage from games I've seen but was supposed to have been magic against Saints.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 08 Oct 2012, 9:25 pm

He's not been garbage, but he has been below what we've come to expect from him. He spent pre season lining up with Ansbro in the centres and they looked decent together, but he didn't look comfortable outside Losi at 12 in the first couple of games. He seemed to be trying to force things a bit, perhaps because we were on the back foot, and he made errors that we don't really expect from him. Since the Bath game he has picked up and was very good against Saints on Saturday.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 08 Oct 2012, 9:42 pm

He was outstanding against saints but very quiet before then. Bench spot may be fair yeh.

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 08 Oct 2012, 10:00 pm

Billy Burns is a pretty good player.......not long before he'll be challenging.
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Post by Driver Mon 08 Oct 2012, 11:00 pm

Guys

I'v just set up my Movember page if anyone would be kind enough to drop the odd 50p in here and there.

I'm starting now purely because i have the facial hair of a 12 year old.

http://uk.movember.com/mospace/2957661

Thanks in advance.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 09 Oct 2012, 9:15 am

Prem team of week:

http://www.therugbyblog.co.uk/aviva-premiership-team-of-the-week-round-6?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRugbyBlog+%28The+Rugby+Blog%29

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Post by Guest Tue 09 Oct 2012, 12:53 pm

Billy burns looks decent. Hopefully make up for me getting rid of Freddie

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 09 Oct 2012, 4:10 pm

Saw an interview with the elder Burns saying that he hoped Billy opted to play at no12 so he wouldnt have him putting pressure on him for the 10 shirt.

Have been very impressed with Twelvetrees this season, rate him higher than most of the other English 12's in the AP. Wonder how highly Lancaster does

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Post by Guest Tue 09 Oct 2012, 11:24 pm

Chris twelve trees has been ok for glos. he tries to do far too much. He plays like someone who has had limited game time. Getting better each week but god the guy can kill an overlap. His defence and positioning great. Will be finished product by end of year. Does he have pace for international level is big question

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 10 Oct 2012, 8:42 am

Was it you who signed the younger Savea Matt??

See he's been signed by Hurracines at only 18!

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Post by Guest Wed 10 Oct 2012, 2:11 pm

Young savea is massively raw but all ready a star for nz in 7s. Glad I got him cheap

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 10 Oct 2012, 2:20 pm

Matt, you heading to kingsholm next thursday? I'll be in the shed!!

Just seen the Glos squad for tomorrow's match, pretty young front row but reckon we should sneak it.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 10 Oct 2012, 3:54 pm

Be very interesting to see how.everyones youngsters get on next year after so many were bought this season. Few of mine have been signed by s15 sides.

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Post by Guest Wed 10 Oct 2012, 4:47 pm

Yes I will be there Prop. Providing I can get back from work in time. Unfortunately I will be in the silver seats. My dad can't stand the whole game these days so our season tickets are now over there. Out injured for about 3 weeks so good to go and watch !

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 10 Oct 2012, 4:55 pm

Mat was it you who signed the young Italian centre who did his knee ligaments at the JWC - he looks very, very good.

I signed a guy called Mark Bennett who was snapped up by Clermont as an 18 year old, a lot of Scots are very excited about him, so hopefully he will come good.

Be good once the Anglo-Welsh Cup starts again as really want to see a few more of the young English players getting some game time - Saints have two players who are doing very well in the 'A' league, Will Hooley and Tom Stephenson.

Mat, would you say Twelvetrees is gettng better each week too? He seemed to have the problem at Tigers that he was played out of position or never given games, so would imagine he's having to find his feet a bit more at the start of this season. He isn't the fastest - I'm 50/50 with him as to whether he will fully make it.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 10 Oct 2012, 5:15 pm

Just keep your eyes on Samson Lee guys (Pooly he's not for sale sorry!!).

Matt I'll be the one in the Glos top in the shed Wink got free tickets for the United match on Monday too so debating whether to do Cardiff to Glos twice in a week!!
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Post by Driver Wed 10 Oct 2012, 5:38 pm

Eyes open for Rhys Ruddock , Paddy Jackson , Ben Tameifuna , Lloyd Williams , Harry Robinson and Sep Visser.

Bagged Sep Visser when he was at Tynedale and 4 weeks later he's snapped up by Edinburgh , My scouts work hard.

What are peoples teams for the AI

1.Matt Mullen
2.John Smit
3.Hoani Tui
4.Lionel Nallet/Bryn Evans
5.Ali Williams
6.Joe Van Niekirk
7.Shane Jennings
8.Luke Narraway

9. Dewaldt Duvenage
10.Iain Humphreys
11.Mark Cueto
12.Chris Bell
13.Henry Trinder
14.Adam Thompstone
15.Freddie Burns
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 10 Oct 2012, 5:51 pm

36 has looked excellent in the games that have been on tv. Great defence, powerful running and good passing.

Won't be sure who is available for AI's till teams get named....looking at something like:

1. Andrew Sheridan
2. Tom Youngs (Sebastian Bruno)
3. Brian Mujati
4. Nathan Hines
5. James Horwill (Alistair Hargreaves)
6. Tom Croft
7. James Scaysbrook
8. Thomas Waldrom (Ernst Joubert)

09. Michael Claasens
10. Jonny Wilkinson
11. Ugo Monye (Isa Nacewa)
12. Billy Twelvetrees
13. Maxime Mermoz (Dom Waldouck)
14. Rene Ranger
15. Isa Nacewa

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Post by Driver Wed 10 Oct 2012, 5:52 pm

Not think Youngs will be with England as there 16?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 10 Oct 2012, 5:58 pm

Twelvetrees has been getting better through the season, don't think pace is a huge issue at IC(He's not that slow anyway)...I think I was faster than Will Greenwood.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 10 Oct 2012, 6:00 pm

Think my backline will be:

9. Simpson
10. Giteau
11. someone
12. someone
13. someone
14. Siviatu
15. Foden

Think I might struggle with a team, so might be needing to recall some loans!!! Are Samoa touring along with Argentina?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 10 Oct 2012, 6:08 pm

No idea Driver - not sure if Youngs, Waldrom, Monye will be with England - or if Horwill will be back for Oz. Hope not on all fronts...

Lol Chris - might be time to plan ahead Wink

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 10 Oct 2012, 6:11 pm

I'd play someone at 10 and shift Gits to 12 personally.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 10 Oct 2012, 6:13 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Think my backline will be:

9. Simpson
10. Ford
11. Wade
12. Giteau
13. Beck/Daley
14. Siviatu
15. Foden

Think I might struggle with a team, so might be needing to recall some loans!!! Are Samoa touring along with Argentina?

Fixed that for you.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 10 Oct 2012, 6:34 pm

Looks like I may need to be recalling quite a few players from their loans.

Quite lucky I will probably be able to put out Bonnaire, Lydiate, Ashley Johnson, Salvi and Launchbury in some back row combination - but could do with Calum Clark coming back to some form when he returns pretty quick smart.

Wonder how he will be after his ban, I really rate him - but he's been out for quite some time!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 10 Oct 2012, 7:00 pm

I like Clark but he's scum. Needs to sort out his best position (6 for me) and sort out his discipline.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 10 Oct 2012, 7:18 pm

lol - its a love/hate thing there - he's an idiot with what he did, but before that moment of madness he'd actually stopped being as bad as he used to be. Still think he was very lucky to just get 6 months. Is hawkins back playing now?

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Post by CJB Wed 10 Oct 2012, 7:49 pm

AI Team
May not be picked = Red

1 Jon Golding Charlie Faumuina
2 Chris Brooker
3 Davit Kubrashvilli
4 Jarrad Hoeata
5 Graham Kitchener
6 Brad Shields James Haskell
7 Akapusi Qera David Pocock
8 Tom Guest
9 Richard Wigglesworth
10 Charlie Hodgson
11 Maxime Medard
12 Anthony Allen
13 Tim Nanai Williams
14 Isiah Toeava
15 Rob Miller

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Post by Guest Wed 10 Oct 2012, 7:53 pm

12trees still tries to do too much and butchers a lot of
Play. Getting better each week.

I should be ok for Ai's genia and goosen will be available

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 10 Oct 2012, 8:38 pm

Folks, struggling for time at present so your opposition teams won't be up until tomorrow evening, same fo rthe weather.

If you want to check the weather it will be whatever it says on the BBC website for 16:00 hours on Friday for where you're playing.
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 11 Oct 2012, 1:34 pm

Guys just to let you know that it's likely I am going to need to recall pretty much most of my players that I've loaned out to cover the for the AI's etc. Might be able to offer up some replacements instead though!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 11 Oct 2012, 1:49 pm

Expect my side to be okay

1. Wyatt Crockett
2. Schalk Brits
3. John Afoa
4. Bakkies Botha
5. Steve Borthwick
6. Carl Fearns
7. Chris Henry
8. Nick Easter
9. Lee Dickson
10. Freddie Burns
11. Tom Biggs
12. Felipe Contepomi (hopefully he isn't with Arg for AI's either)
13. Florian Fritz
14. Taku Ngwenya
15. Andre Taylor

16. Rob Hawkins
17. Will Collier
18. Kieran Brookes
19. Jerome Thion
20. Jamie Gibson/Sam Jones
21. Karl Dickson
22. Quade Cooper
23. Luke Morahan

With the likes of Ben Franks, Tom Wood, Joe Marler, Jonathan Joseph etc potentially availible.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 11 Oct 2012, 1:55 pm

Think my team is shaping up as for the first 2 games at least!

1. Sona Taumalolo 2. Dylan Hartley 3. Carl Hayman

4. Calum Clark 5. Joe Launchbury

6. Lydiate 7. Salvi 8 Ashley Johnson

9 Simpson 10. George Ford

12. Matt Giteau 13. Matt Tait

11. Siti Siviatu 14. Elliot Daly/Christian Wade 15. Ben Foden

And then keeping my fingers crossed it wont hammer down with rain!

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