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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 30 Aug 2012, 10:59 pm

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 12 Sep 2012, 4:27 pm

whats the price of it Luke?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 12 Sep 2012, 4:29 pm

Phone line, broadband, 100 channels plus sky 1&2 and espn is £62 I think.

Loads and loads of free films and tv shows too.

I really like it, considered switching to virgin when I moved recently but the free films and tv shows are great.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 12 Sep 2012, 4:32 pm

That's me not being able to watch rugby next year then! Gutted Sky have lost it, thought that there coverage was always very, very good, pundits all good, especially Greenwood.

Havent they got the premiership (football) too next year?

Can't see how ESPN will survive really!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 12 Sep 2012, 4:34 pm

I will likely stick with Sky if you can have the BT vision channel on there tbh. ring them every year or so saying you want to leave and they knock the price down

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 12 Sep 2012, 4:37 pm

Each time I ring and say I'm going to BT Vision they just say fair enough! Guy I sit near at work pays something like £35 a month for pretty much everything apart from the movie channels!

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Post by stnick88 Wed 12 Sep 2012, 4:44 pm

ESPN still has prem football though.

BT vision is £12.50 a month if you already have BT infinity internet which I do. handy.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 12 Sep 2012, 7:56 pm

I don't think we really came to a conclusion on the length of tactics thing when we were discussing it, but it needs addressing, so I am setting a 500 word limit on tactics from this week, and we can see how that goes and assess if it needs cutting down further as we go forwards.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:02 pm

Just watched Irish v Gloucester

Morgan looks fantastic, really trimmed down. Must be a shoe in for AI.

Robson/Burns look a great combo, both look in great nick.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:06 pm

Nick I think ESPN lost the prem football.

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Post by Driver Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:06 pm

ESPN has lost the football after this season with BSkyB buying out all there matchs i think?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:07 pm

BT Vision has 30 odd games and Sky has the rest. But BT has first choice each round of fixtures so will have the big games.

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Post by Driver Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:08 pm

Really?

This is just mad.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:13 pm

I might be wrong, but that is how i remember it

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Post by stnick88 Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:17 pm

Yeh robson was quality pooly. What did you make of Irish 8 fisher?

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Post by Driver Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:17 pm

Starting XV:

1. Tony Woodcock (88)
2. Andrew Hore (68)
3. Owen Franks (37)
4. Luke Romano (4)
5. Samuel Whitelock (31)
6. Liam Messam (13)
7. Richie McCaw – captain (109)
8. Kieran Read (41)
9. Piri Weepu (62)
10. Aaron Cruden (13)
11. Julian Savea (3)
12. Ma’a Nonu (69)
13. Conrad Smith (59)
14. Cory Jane (34)
15. Israel Dagg (18)

Reserves:

16. Keven Mealamu (96)
17. Charlie Faumuina (1)
18. Brodie Retallick (6)
19. Victor Vito (15)
20. Aaron Smith (6)
21. Beauden Barrett (2)
22. Tamati Ellison (2)
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:20 pm

Fisher look pretty decent Nick, was on back foot a little but fronted up well/ Who is he?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:23 pm

He was an academy player at Irish who was highly regarded and tipped to possibly go on to international honours. He never quite lived up to the billing and was released a couple of seasons back. Had a good season for Bedford in the Championship last season and Brian Smith re-signed him. Will be interesting to see how he goes.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:24 pm

Looked ok, Morgan was quality though, good news for Prop & England

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:26 pm

I never really rated him when we had him before, but everyone I speak to who went to pre season games say he was mustard against Dragons and Munster.

I thought he was anonymous against Saracens when we played them and I've not watched the Gloucester game yet.
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Post by stnick88 Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:48 pm

He carried alot pete and set up aulikas try. MOrgan was quality.

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Post by Guest Wed 12 Sep 2012, 9:50 pm

Robson was glos best player in saints game also. Great service and a threat ball in hand. Very exciting. I forgot to play carter this week. Could have genia and carter during AI's happy days

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Post by Guest Wed 12 Sep 2012, 9:52 pm

Nz very clever how they drip in players like savea who they are trying to bring through. Helps if you have a great team.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 12 Sep 2012, 9:52 pm

Carter is still with the AB squad isn't he?
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Post by Guest Wed 12 Sep 2012, 10:05 pm

Isn't he out injured ? Pulled out of game last week. Will need to check. Boks saffers looks a weird one. Meyer turning into a clown

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Post by Guest Wed 12 Sep 2012, 10:51 pm

Chaps I am flying out on holiday in a few hours time. Prob will not predo. Will respond to anything next Thursday. If not back in time can I enter the same
Side with carter picked if still out injured as suspected.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 12 Sep 2012, 10:57 pm

He's injured, but expected back during the RC so is still in the AB's squad.

Have a good holiday bud.
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Post by Driver Wed 12 Sep 2012, 11:11 pm

One of Matt's 53 holidays this year....



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Post by prop_lyd Thu 13 Sep 2012, 8:40 am

Is he only doing 53 holidays?! Man he's cutting down!!
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 14 Sep 2012, 11:17 am

Just catching up on Sale vs Sarries.

Joubert is now qualified for England an Lancaster was there watching him. Can he be EQ for me yet?

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Post by stnick88 Fri 14 Sep 2012, 11:32 am

not sure if he has to get a cap or saxon cap to be EQ on this game or not? cant remember how it worked with waldrom.

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 14 Sep 2012, 12:02 pm

Looking for an old head for my back row. Mainly looking to part with cash. (Os who can play 8 if needed).
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 14 Sep 2012, 5:07 pm

These games get harder to predict every week. Every game very tough to call and could have gone either way.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 14 Sep 2012, 7:39 pm

If Ben Franks and Wyatt Crockett don't play next week what do people think of me involving them?

Wouldn't have been in 3 matchday squads on the run then

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 14 Sep 2012, 8:15 pm

No problem for me

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 14 Sep 2012, 8:54 pm

Strange from Saints tonight.

Rest Mujati, Start with Mercey and take him off after 36 mins for PDJ

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 15 Sep 2012, 9:00 am

Saffers policy of kicking high to Jane is baffling. They look good making the yards though. Sensational offload from Whitlecock and Read for the try.

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Post by Guest Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:24 am

How is the game going been following the live text on planet rugby and all I can work out is cruden and morne Steyn are having mares and that Habana and dagg scored Good try's

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:32 am

Pete/Nick either of you two going to the game today? Just had to give my tickets away because of work and it looks like the best Wasps team we've put out - I think its -

Payne, Thomas, Stabano, Palmer, Wentzel, Launchbury, Poff, AJ in the pack and then Simpson, Jones, Wade, Masi, Daly, Varndell and Southwell.

With Haskell, Vunipola and Robinson on the bench.

Masi seems to make a huge difference for us. Should be a good game, hopefully a Wasps win though!

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:34 am

Mat, Dagg played very well.

Game was very physical, some massive hits all over the place from both teams. If Steyn got his kicks the Boks would have won quite comfortably. Never seen him miss so many - whoever signed Goosen has a very good player, first tme I've seen him.


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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:35 am

M.Steyn was woeful. Kicking out of hand as bad as from the tee. Cruden didn't really have a mare but nothing great. Both tries were superb. Boks should have won.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 15 Sep 2012, 11:18 am

Wayne Barnes is a awful ref. That is a bad decision. How can you take the 9 without the bll when the 9 is bridging the ruck.


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Post by dammit_chris Sat 15 Sep 2012, 11:36 am

Wayne Barnes was brilliant 2-3 years ago, but he's gone well off the boil.

Good article by Greenwood in the telegraph today, sums up the point about Flood I've tried (and normally failed to make), that he's a natural 12 who is playing 10. Easily my favourite pundit.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/9544279/Fly-half-conundrum-leaves-England-with-a-difficult-choice-over-Owen-Farrell-or-Toby-Flood.html

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 15 Sep 2012, 12:17 pm

I'm not going Chris, I was thinking about it but I only got in from work at 5 o'clock this morning after dealing with some burglars yesterday, and have just got back from having to pop in the office this morning.

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Post by Guest Sat 15 Sep 2012, 12:32 pm

Goosen is my star buy Chris. Absolute superstar.

On the feeds cruden got picked out for missing touch and poor game management.


To be fair he is learning and game management not great. He was trying to run stuff out from under his posts vs argies and nonu spilled the ball that cost a try. Needs to learn when to play and when to kick.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 15 Sep 2012, 12:42 pm

Hooper is one I'm excited about matt. The guy has such potential it is unbelieveable.

Also think Arry has a fine signing in Dave Dennis and McCabe will make a huge difference for Prop.

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Post by Guest Sat 15 Sep 2012, 1:15 pm

Dennis has struggled at international is he young? Hooper looks some player

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 15 Sep 2012, 1:59 pm

What was the Argentina game like today, sounded like the Aussies had to work pretty hard in final 20mins to win. Was it played in Australia?

Hooper has looked good every time I've seen him play - thought I had the better player in Gill, but been proved wrong there!

You did well with Goosen Mat, very impressed with him.

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Post by Guest Sat 15 Sep 2012, 2:09 pm

Gill is younger and looks real deal. Gill can play 6 also whereas hooper only 7. Think both are top don't know who Is better

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Post by Guest Sat 15 Sep 2012, 3:37 pm

Where do I find the league table

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 15 Sep 2012, 3:38 pm

It's at the top of this page Mat!
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