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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:59 pm

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Waiting List
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2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:17 pm

Worst pack in Prem sale
. 01 Roberts
02 Ward
03 Cobilas
04 Gray
05 Myall
06 Easter
07 Seymour
08 Powell


Only gray get in any other ap side

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:20 pm

Gray must be wondering what he's done.

Must be Brush??? They looked a good team last year with worse players!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:31 pm

Really need to improve at Hooker and TH. Thomas good but injured/Not selected so far.

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:33 pm

Brush has no idea about pack. Did same at glos. thy pack is div 1

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:35 pm

Powell has been class for Sale. Seymour a class act. ELR a very useful player.

I'd prefer our pack than Gloucesters

ELR
Ward
Thomas
McKenzie
Gray
Fourie
Seymour
Powell

isn't bad.

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Post by Driver Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:38 pm

I'v heard whispers Fourie might be about to retire.
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Post by dammit_chris Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:39 pm

I like the Peel and Cipriani combination, but not so sure about the centres. They;ve got some good young backthree players though and Cueto.

Steve how long is Fourie out for? He could have only played one or two games for you in 18months or so? Read somewhere there were concerns he might have to stop playing?

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:43 pm

Hazell (mint form) or qera better than Seymour


Wood
Dawiduik
Harden
Hamilton
Savage
Kalimafoni
Morgan
Hazell/qera

for me much better pack. Savage a top player and generally we have carriers which sale lack.



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Post by Driver Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:45 pm

He's played 14 minutes since he joined.

If i was Bush i'd be looking at

1.Roberts
2.Ward
3.Cobilas
4.Grey
5.Gaskell
6.Vernon
7.Seymore
8.Powell

9..Powell
10.Mcleod
11.Cueto
12.Tuitoplu
13.Addison
14.Brady
15.Miller
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:47 pm

Cips has been getting slated on main boards, Sale fans wanting Miller at FH??

I've not seen Sale yet this season so can't comment

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Post by Driver Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:48 pm

Falcons pack is alright

1.Golding/Shiells
2.Vickers (He is gash mind)/Thompson
3.Tomazack/Wilson/Hall
4.Del Fava/Tomas
5.Hudson/Mcleod
6.York/Wilson
7.Welch/Robinson
8.Hogg/Tui'fua
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:50 pm

you winding me up Matt? Plenty of average in both packs but prefer ours.

Leota ahead of Tuitupou Driver and McKenzie ahead of Gaskell but not far off what I'd have.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:52 pm

Iam very concerned by this start. Performances rather than results worrying me. Not even a LBP tonight. Welsh no mugs but we have to win at home.

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:00 pm

Not winding you up steve. Think both packs average but glos front row excellent. Nick wood been on short list of 5 for prem player of year last 2 years and harden England tourist. Dawiduik good ap player

Glos second row poor bar Hamilton. No lineout. Savage a good 4 but no 5 and Hamilton a 5.

Hazell great 7 for way glos play and ex England.

Morgan good 8 we have no 6 it's either savage or kalomofoni but neither are 6s

Our core players in pack better for me although glos have no depth.

On current form hazell best 7 in prem. done well to come back

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Post by dammit_chris Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:01 pm

Heard a few comments about Cipriani not getting any go forward ball at all and he needs that for the style of rugby he plays. A lot of pundits were expecting big things from Sale this year, but they didnt really replace Sheridan and having Ward at no2 is a big concern (if it is the former Wasps guy). Think you've just signed Chris Ingall who used to play for Wasps too, which is an odd signing as never really thought that highly of him at the club.

Should be a good game between Wasps and Gloucester tomorrow, feeling as though we might be able to get a win in what could be a really good attacking game of rugby! Jones/Masi combination is key for us and Simpson is playing some very nice stuff at the moment - looking forward to seeing how Bell goes at 15.

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:06 pm

Meant to say hamilton no 5 either on last post. Sale pack More athletic but light on graft and structure. Both glos and sale will be mid table

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Post by Driver Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:09 pm

Premiership 15?

1.Marler
2.Brits
3.Castro
4.Grey
5.Parling/Robson
6.Brown
7.Louw
8.Joubert/Morgan

9.Youngs
10.Evans
11.Genova
12.Barritt
13.Tuilagi
14.Sharples
15.Brown/Foden
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Post by Guest Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:13 pm

[quote="Driver"]Premiership 15?

1.Marler/wood
2.Brits
3.Castro
4.Grey
5.Parling/Robson
6. Robshaw
7.Salvi
8.Joubert/Morgan

9.Care/peel ( youngs done nowt for ages)
10.Evans
11.Tagi
12.Barritt
13.Tuilagi
14.may
15.Brown

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Post by Driver Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:14 pm

I'd take Brown over Robshaw every day of the week , fantastic 6.

2nd on BI to only Steven Ferris
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Post by Guest Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:21 pm

Brown had 1 good season in his life. My team was based on form
And stature

He had a decent wc

Brown has done nowt in prem.

Not even scotlands best 6 for me. Robshaw not my favourite but is an amazing performer in prem

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:26 pm

Kelly Brown is behind (in no order) these players when they play as 6's

Stephen Ferris, SOB, Dan Lydiate, Ryan Jones, Tom Croft, Tom Wood, Chris Robshaw, Dave Denton.

For my money in the British Isles.

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Post by Driver Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:33 pm

I'd take Brown above SOB , Lydiate , Jones , Croft , Wood and Robshaw.

Denton no 6 for me , he's a 8 needs ball in his hands.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:33 pm

Interesting choices. On prem form....

1. Marler
2. Brits
3. Castro
4. Robson
5. Parling
6. Brown
7. Robshaw
8. Joubert

9. Youngs
10. Evans
11. Tagi
12. Barritt
13. Tuilagi
14. Ashton
15. Brown

I'd have Brown only behind Ferris and SOB personally. Never seen Denton at 6


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Post by Guest Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:36 pm

How is brown form ap 6??? 500% agree with Steven what has he ever done in prem???

Answer = nothing

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Post by dammit_chris Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:39 pm

Mine from this year's form (a little Wasps bias).

15. Brown
14. Wade
13. Tuilagi
12. Masi
11. Varndell
10. Evans
9. Care (apart from the Wasps game he's been awesome)
8. Waldrom
7. Salvi
6. Robshaw
5. Wentzel
4. Manoa
3. Johnston
2. Hartley
1. Marler (though Vunipola close at Sarries)

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:40 pm

Driver wrote:I'd take Brown above SOB , Lydiate , Jones , Croft , Wood and Robshaw.

Brown solid but not in front of any of these for me Driver.

You really see Brown over SOB????

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:41 pm

Should ask Sarries fans what he's done Matt. Beshocked think he's best BS in NH!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:43 pm

Who Johnstone???

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:43 pm

How many games has he played for sarries in 2 years ??

Beshocked sounds a tad foolish

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:44 pm

Denton plays 6 for Edinburgh. Talei or occasionally McInally play 8.

Denton, Rennie Talei is the dogs as a backrow

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Post by Driver Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:44 pm

With no doubt Luke , Blokes class. Always breaks gainline and links play up really well. Takes some talent to play 6 and 8 at international level.

SOB is a poor 8 for Ireland but ok in Rabo league there , doesn't have brain for it. Great 6 though but for my money Brown is the mutts nutts.
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Post by Guest Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:45 pm

Think he means jj who has been immense for quins. Carried on end of last seasons form. Don't like seeing him so lean preferred the fat lad lol

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Post by dammit_chris Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:51 pm

Johnson the Quins prop - come on leaps and bounds last 18months. Quins got two great props, whoever their scrum coach is he needs a medal as neither could scrummage at all ages and ages ago.

Wood has impressed me a lot since he's come back at Saints, glad to see Lawes starting tomorrow - they've got him and Manoa playing, would hate to be Andy Goode lining up in the WArriors 10 shirt, he is going to get smashed, as he isnt exactly the most nimble of players to dodge a tackle.

Remember seeing Saints v Wasps at Adams Park last year and felt so sorry for Robinson, Lawes smashed him 4 times, and then was replaced by Manoa who kept up the big hits. Would hate to play against either of those!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:52 pm

He's complete Sarries bias...must have seen him at some point on main board???

Just slag a Sarries player off on main board and he'll appear.

My dislike of Farrell brings him out now and again, even though he doesn't think Farrell is much cop he still defends him.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:53 pm

Lawes back??? Bloody hell, about time!

Don't like JJ at all, was most penalised player in prem last year I think

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:01 pm

Jj destroyed every team after feb. did a number on all top teams.same this year.quins scrum cOach genius.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:05 pm

Gray has really stepped up this season.....watch out Hartley (don't kick a ball at me!!)

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Post by stnick88 Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:07 pm

DInt worry steve there's always Irish.

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:08 pm

Tom Rees could kick a ball harder than Chris. He also will be responsible for world peace !!!!

Mike Teague will have sorted it before though!!!

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Post by stnick88 Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:55 pm

Jj is quality really stepped up end of last season and seems to of picked up where he left off. I'd take robshaw over brown. I'd also take the glos pack over sale pack. Neither have depth though, just like Irish. And wasps.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:09 am

Tom Rees apparently not coming back to rugby as he is now David Cameron's main advisor in kick starting the UK economy. Talent.

I think my footballing days are over, so no fear of anyone getting kicked with a ball, as I got a text from the guy who runs the football first thing this morning asking me not to play for a little while.

Seemingly a 15stone rugby person isn't that welcome in football! Looks like it is back to the rugby field and seeing if I can add to my collection of 25 broken bones!!!

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:39 am

Good article by Greenwood today about how the AP has changed style and is a lot more attack focused with people taking risks with the offload - if it continues then will really benefit England

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/9558551/Why-the-offload-has-made-attack-the-best-form-of-defence-in-the-Aviva-Premiership.html

Like Greenwood, favourite pundit

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Post by CJB Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:51 am

happy birthday Pooly, you are officially a dinosaur now boxing laughing

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:18 am

Haha....cheers mate, I felt young yesterday too!

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:27 am

Couple of cider cider for the old man dozing in the corner................happy brithday fella!!
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Post by prop_lyd Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:32 am

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Nigel-Davies-don-t-like-scrums-watch-rugby-league/story-16962044-detail/story.html

Take that Austin Healey!!
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:03 pm

Great day of rugby ahead. Mrs is away and 2 good games to look forward to.

Tigers vs Quins sub-plot:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/9558750/Leicester-v-Harlequins-England-hopefuls-Tom-Youngs-and-Joe-Gray-go-head-to-head-to-join-the-elite.html

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Post by Driver Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:08 pm

Is Tiger vs Quins on Sky oor ESPN Luke?
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:14 pm

Gloucester vs Wasps - Sky Sports 1 - 3pm
Tigers vs Quins - ESPN - 5pm

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Post by Driver Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:16 pm

This and Newcastle vs Norwich tomorrow my weekend is complete


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