Amir Khan, a five-weight champ?

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Yes, he's his promoter and yes, he has to talk him up, but does he really believe this?

Yes, multiple weights are easier these days if you can grab yourself an alphabet, but five divisions is a huge challenge. I can't see Khan at middle, definitely not super-, so he'd have to move down, scary territory with guys like Gamboa and JuanMa milling about. Khan's chin at the lighter weights wouldn't stand up to the punishment those guys would dish out.

However, 3 weights is feasible. Welterweight is a ghost town these days, and Matthew Hatton is fighting for belts at light-middle.

How far do you guys think Khan can go moving weights? Roach is the man to be with if he wants to.

Discuss!

I wouldn't have Wilde that high.

Did you miss the "in no particular order" part? Silly question

Manos think it is very much swings and roundabouts with Oscar, for every close loss he has he has as many close wins he has got the nod in. Both Quartey and Whitaker could have gone either way, personally felt he beat Quartey but lost to Pernell and he got a stone cold gift against Sturm.

Would add I personally thought he did enough against Trinidad, but even in this I have limited sympathy because he should know better than to coast off the back foot against Vegas judges. I admire the guy and as others have rightly said the names on his record stack up well against anyone from a modern era but he does have too much of a knack of losing the big ones for me to rate him as highly as many others do, and for me he falls short of the true elite of the game.

Oscar had one thing that Khan simply doesn't; a very, very good chin.

I also believe he desreves great credit for his level of oppoisition. Okay, he didn't win them all. But his record reads like a who's of who of the Middle divisions over the past 20 years or so.

Agreed Sam, can only imagine what happens if Khan takes some of the kind of shots Quartey landed on DLH. This is why I struggle to see him moving through five or six weights. Would take some of the most cautious and clever route picking ever to get Amir belts at higher weights because when a guy looks vulnerable against decent punchers at light welter you have to think he is going to look at risk against pretty much anyone by the time he reaches middle or super middle

88Chris05 wrote:Why are people biting? D4 is telling us all (more or less) that Khan WILL win world titles at five weights, and WILL be Britain's greatest ever fighter, and that we HAVE to regard him as such based on probability, because he trains with Pacquiao, his idol. We know he's talking cobblers, he knows it too.

I'm not saying Khan will do such a feat, I'm saying if he does such a feat he should be regarded as the greatest British fighter ever.

Oscar says he see a little bit of himself in Khan

And to be fair, Oscar never struggled with a fighter of Maidana's level, really.

It took the absolute elite of the sport to push him or beat him; with the possible exception of Sturm.

rowley wrote:Manos think it is very much swings and roundabouts with Oscar, for every close loss he has he has as many close wins he has got the nod in. Both Quartey and Whitaker could have gone either way, personally felt he beat Quartey but lost to Pernell and he got a stone cold gift against Sturm.

Would add I personally thought he did enough against Trinidad, but even in this I have limited sympathy because he should know better than to coast off the back foot against Vegas judges. I admire the guy and as others have rightly said the names on his record stack up well against anyone from a modern era but he does have too much of a knack of losing the big ones for me to rate him as highly as many others do, and for me he falls short of the true elite of the game.

I put alot of stock in the manner of his defeats though. Other than weight drained against the p4p nmber 1 at the end of his career he has never been outclassed. Even against at Middleweight Hopkins he was holding his own until the body shot.

Essentially even in his losses he proved he was an elite fighter able to mix it with the best. His losses are just a product of the phenomenal level of competition he took on rather than falling short at the highest level for me.

I accept when it gets down to the nitty gritty of people placing fighters in order then the losses work against him in terms of the fine margins of placing. But in an overall sense they dont detract too heavily from his greatness for me. He proved he was a match for greats over a number of divisions.

D4thincarnation wrote:Oscar says he see a little bit of himself in Khan

Probably the cheque signed by him thats in Khans back pocket.

To be fair, he was a genuine phenom at Lightweight and Light-Welter. He beat guys the way you are supposed to beat them when you are a supposed elite fighter.

A large part of that was due to his physical advantages; but what a fighter he was as a young man. His opposition stands against pretty much anybody's of the modern era. Ike Quartey, for example; was a superb fighter. He destroys anybody around the same weight for me now; with the exceptions of Pac and Mayweather.