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Second win of the season for Saracens and defeats for Welsh, Wasps and Worcester mean there is just 3 points between the bottom four.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Oct 2012, 5:27 pm

Exeter score is very impressive. not seen the game

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 6:03 pm

They can feel a bit hard done by Steve, Leinster really got the rub of the green off the referee who was possibly the most pedantic ref I have ever seen.

Mieres had a 48 metre penalty to draw the game in the last minute and put it wide.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Oct 2012, 6:07 pm

Quins should beat Biarittz here.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 13 Oct 2012, 6:10 pm

Lovely try Care!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Oct 2012, 6:11 pm

bad defending from Ngwenya. Made Care's step look better than it was

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 13 Oct 2012, 6:17 pm

Just seen the Toulouse teamsheet for tomorrow. Didnt realise Fickou was starting!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Oct 2012, 6:37 pm

Biarritz pack looking strong, good to see Barcella getting through some work

Could be a real tight one with Evans off

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Post by Driver Sat 13 Oct 2012, 6:47 pm

Welsh 19 Stade 68

ouch.
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Post by dammit_chris Sat 13 Oct 2012, 6:52 pm

Agree with you about the ref Pete - Leinster got away with quite a bit, don't think I saw a Leinster player roll away from a tackle once! And the penalty that Leinster got to win the game the ref missed a blatant knockon.

Was very impressed with Exeter, they move the ball so well from the the breakdown - but they just lack that extra bit of class to win games like that - best I've seen an English team play in Ireland for quite a few years. Definitely deserved something out of it.

Did Clermont get a big score today? Missed their result

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 13 Oct 2012, 6:55 pm

Sarries were blooming good today - nice to see 13 English players in the starting lineup, and 5 different English try scorers!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Oct 2012, 7:03 pm

25 points for Contepomi in what is a fine win for em

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Post by Driver Sat 13 Oct 2012, 7:05 pm

Erik Lund must have the best beard in world rugby.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Oct 2012, 7:09 pm

Quins munching Biarittz at the scrum.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Oct 2012, 7:10 pm

Great start by Quins in the 2nd

Biarritz had def scrum edge in 1st half but that was a monster push from Quins

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Post by Driver Sat 13 Oct 2012, 7:10 pm

Big statement from any side when you maul a try over like that.
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 13 Oct 2012, 7:11 pm

To be fair Chris the knock on came after the player was tackled without the ball so the penalty was legit. Chiefs played well and feel they were hard done by when Nacewa got away with the trip but they were just as guilty for lying all over the ball.

The ref blew the game off the park which was a shame as based on the first 15 minutes that could have been a very open and entertaining game

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Post by Driver Sat 13 Oct 2012, 7:12 pm

Great bit of vision from Botica there.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Oct 2012, 7:12 pm

Quins bossed the first scrum of the game but I missed the rest of the half.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Oct 2012, 7:15 pm

JJ had issues with Barcella, couldn't get his bind on and got pinged a few times. Biarritz def had the better (I turned on at 8mins)

Great 2 scrums though from Quins, Biarritz won't like that as they are generally one of the stronger scrummaging sides in the T14.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 13 Oct 2012, 7:18 pm

SJE - so that's what the penalty was for - I was watching ti down the gym and forgot my headphones!

Botica is a really good player - did great in NZ and France, think he's got an English passport too.

Think Quins could blow them away here

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Oct 2012, 8:14 pm

Did you big Southwell up earlier Chris? Did you just see him get bumped for that try!!! Shocking

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Oct 2012, 8:31 pm

Dragons sooooo bad.

If Launchbury but a bit of beef on he could be a really good 4.

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Post by stnick88 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 8:54 pm

That was embarrassing from southwell pooly!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 8:55 pm

nick

if you want to watch the Irish game...

http://www.vipboxsports.eu/rugby/86623/1/bordeaux-vs-london-irish-live-stream-online.html

we've been good first half.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Oct 2012, 8:55 pm

From a young kid too, such a flakey player Southwell.

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Post by Driver Sat 13 Oct 2012, 9:40 pm

How much of Ulster have you guys seen this year?

Paddy Jackson has been the best 10 in the Rabo so far and they demolished Castres last night with him picking up praise for his attacking ability and spot on kicking nailing some tough ones. Boy could force Sexton out of his Ireland jersey by the 6N.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 9:48 pm

Driver, I am an Ulster fan, as that is where my family are from, and I've watched every Ulster game so far this season and rate young Paddy highly, but there is no way he will be forcing Sexton out of the 10 jersey this season.
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Post by Driver Sat 13 Oct 2012, 9:56 pm

I said could , think he could claim the 21 shirt from ROG.

Boys' got plenty of talent. Would he be rated on here over FTD at the minute?
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Post by Guest Sat 13 Oct 2012, 10:08 pm

Williams JD would not work.
Don't see Williams as more than squad sorry pooly. Beck on other hand is a tidy 12

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Post by Driver Sat 13 Oct 2012, 10:15 pm

I think Scott Williams is a class act tbh , his footwork is the best from the Welsh backs and he's got a wicked step.

Beck is good and suits the Welsh style of play but i'd pick Williams over him.
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Post by Guest Sat 13 Oct 2012, 10:24 pm

All about opinions driver. To be fair I ran down JD who is now a class act. People used to run down Jamie Johnstone at quins now he is among best th in Europe. Destroyed Biarritz today.

Williams may be in that bracket but I need to be convinced. See him as liability at this level.

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Post by stnick88 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 10:29 pm

I caught most of it Pete. Good win we played well but Bordeaux are a pretty poor side.

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Oct 2012, 10:31 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:JJ had issues with Barcella, couldn't get his bind on and got pinged a few times. Biarritz def had the better (I turned on at 8mins)

Great 2 scrums though from Quins, Biarritz won't like that as they are generally one of the stronger scrummaging sides in the T14.


Watching on replay 47 in. Jj destroying scrum . Barcella getting battered If he is 1. Botica looks good

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 10:37 pm

stnick88 wrote:I caught most of it Pete. Good win we played well but Bordeaux are a pretty poor side.

They narrowly lost away to Toulouse last week and actually lead that game 25-9 with about 20 minutes to play, so they are not that bad. Sure they're not great, but to go away to France and run in 6 tries, I'll take that.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Oct 2012, 10:45 pm

Williams and JD do work though, not quite sure what you want?? Williams if anything has top draw defence, twice the player Matt Scott is (that sounds petty but only similar age player/level I can think of)

Barcella had best of JJ 1st half but Quins as a unit def dominated scrum 2nd half. Barcella's first start for few weeks so prob ran out of steam.

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Post by Driver Sat 13 Oct 2012, 10:47 pm

Kohn switched sides in the row to give JJ some more support as well
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Oct 2012, 10:52 pm

I didn't notice that, it worked if that was the case. Complete turn around in scrum dominance.

I'm not a big fan of JJ tbh, gets pinged as much as he wins and worse than useless in the loose, complete pen machine.

Driver, Jackson looks class but I'd stick with TD for now

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Post by stnick88 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 11:43 pm

Everytime I see Quins play they seem to do well in scrum and jj dominates. Yeh Pete I'm well happy with it don't get me wrong just don't want us to get carried away. Need to batter mont de marsan next week which I'm sure we will.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 14 Oct 2012, 5:20 am

Marler been great for Quins, along with Brown, Faasavalu and Easter. Care and Dickson having a good battle for the 9 shirt from the games ive seen this season. Quins miss Lowe big time

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Post by prop_lyd Sun 14 Oct 2012, 7:01 am

Morning all.......anyone fancy running this half marathon for me............rugby followed by beers and a chinese with my mate probably wasn't the best idea for us.......he's still in bed poor fellow
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:51 am

Marler is transformed in scrum. We have 2 great options at LH in him and Corbs

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:51 am

Good luck Prop Wink

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Post by prop_lyd Sun 14 Oct 2012, 12:45 pm

Boom and done!! Glad I booked tomorrow off!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 12:48 pm

You get a good time?? Lol

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 14 Oct 2012, 12:48 pm

Did the beers the night before help or hinder Prop?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 12:56 pm

Glasgow have started well

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Post by Driver Sun 14 Oct 2012, 12:57 pm

I have Tennis on my SS1 how do i get the rugby on?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 12:59 pm

Sky interactive on Favs, it's basically the red button on sky

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Post by Driver Sun 14 Oct 2012, 1:00 pm

Woah! Didn't know i had that, Sweeeeet!
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Post by Driver Sun 14 Oct 2012, 1:10 pm

Good defence in the corner that , doesn't look at try.
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