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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 11 Oct 2012, 4:38 pm

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Second win of the season for Saracens and defeats for Welsh, Wasps and Worcester mean there is just 3 points between the bottom four.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by CJB Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:34 pm

Anyone got any EQ players available? Leave inquiries or offers on my page and I shall get back to you asap

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:34 pm

Dragons v Ulster over as a contest. Now found Edinburgh v Scarlets

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:35 pm

Its a 2nd choice Clermont team on show isnt it? Or near to 2nd choice anyway. Kotze in at TH?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:35 pm

Barcella destroying Kotzee, no idea why they didn't look for the pen try there with such a dominant scrum.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:36 pm

Its the Munster match for me Steve now. Young Hanrahan making his first Munster start.

What side is Clermont on?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:37 pm

Espn, weakened ASM side

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:39 pm

What ESPN is it on? I've got scottish football on mine

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:39 pm

Same for me

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Post by Driver Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:39 pm

Iv got it on setanta ireland
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:39 pm

Have to get one of those dodgy boxs!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:40 pm

David Kilcoyne looks a prospect for Munster. Didn't expect to see him in the Irish squad quite so quickly.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:42 pm

How do you get one of the dodgy boxes?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:42 pm

Speak to Pooly. Wink

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:44 pm

Got Setanta through the internet provider so got it on now.
Scrummaging still needs work Steve but he has come on really well. Deserves to start ahead of Du Preez now

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:45 pm

Oh yea it's Setanta!

Barcella on absolute fire! Best game he's had for about year, getting a pen every scrum

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 26 Oct 2012, 8:51 pm

Lovely little try for Hanrahan!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 26 Oct 2012, 9:04 pm

Ridiculous defence from Zebre and Felix Jones is in for Munsters 2nd try

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 26 Oct 2012, 9:20 pm

Scott Andrews is first in line but may struggle, hopefully samson will get game time and should be tough experience
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 26 Oct 2012, 9:20 pm

Barcella taking Zirakashvili apart now which takes some doing. Really worried he'd never come back fully but this is like Barcella of 2008/9. Commentators getting semi's on.

ASM have rolled out big guns, Parra kicking well. Traille playing well also, good dog fight of a game.

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Post by Guest Fri 26 Oct 2012, 9:22 pm

Who is locking for ASM?makes a huge difference.

Huge barcella fan but not seen him have a good one yet. Is it on espn ?

Got a kindle fire HD today.great piece of kit


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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 26 Oct 2012, 9:24 pm

Zirka has just killed him in the last 2 scrums I've seen!
Hanrahan on the end of a grubber for Munsters 3rd try. Having a very good debut game

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 26 Oct 2012, 9:27 pm

Bonus point for Munster now some slack defending from Zebre

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 26 Oct 2012, 9:28 pm

Barcella took that scrum though!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 26 Oct 2012, 9:35 pm

Hanrahan man of the match on debut. Delighted to see some of my young guns stepping up last few weeks!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 26 Oct 2012, 9:36 pm

On Setanta Ire Matt, you need to watch this one, like Barcella of old. Not often see destructive LH play.

Def tightened up since Zira came on, think he's one of best scrummaging TH's in world rugby right now.

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Post by Guest Fri 26 Oct 2012, 9:44 pm

Don't have setanta. Have virgin media. Aaagggh. Love to see him hit form again. He made Domingo look pedestrian when he was at his best and Domingo is a top player

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Post by Driver Fri 26 Oct 2012, 10:32 pm

Few players for sale at Saracens

Hika Elliot
Efion Lewis Roberts
Hoani Tui
Bryn Evans
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 26 Oct 2012, 11:05 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:On Setanta Ire Matt, you need to watch this one, like Barcella of old. Not often see destructive LH play
You've never seen me play :wink:
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Post by Guest Fri 26 Oct 2012, 11:13 pm

Can't wait for glos game tomorrow. Should be good.


Not seen our side yet. Centre pairing will be interesting

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 26 Oct 2012, 11:49 pm

36 and Tindall

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Post by Guest Sat 27 Oct 2012, 12:40 am

Tindall has been great. Him and 36 don't work in attack as 36 runs too much before passing.tindall is not a player who works with that type of 12. Tindall and trinder does not work either.

Tindall great defender but not a 12 attacking. Problem is can't play 36 and trinder as neither leads defence well and we ship points.

For me 36 and tindall best option for win. If trinder can sort fitness and defence him 36 work well as trin has pace and outside break

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Post by Guest Sat 27 Oct 2012, 12:45 am

Basically glos centres don't work as pair. We have best back 3 in league and with robson and burns we have talent for quick game. Need a
36 type to distribute but moves often die with tindall.

Glos backrow tomorrow super physical qera Morgan kalomofoni. Maybe against Waldrom crane and mafi.

Massive collisions.

Deacon makes Leicester much better team

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Post by stnick88 Sat 27 Oct 2012, 9:26 am

That will be a great backrow battle Matt.
Has there ever been a quicker back line
Than irishs tomorrow? Tagi, armitage, jj, Ojo, Watson.
They call it the blackline!

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 27 Oct 2012, 1:06 pm

All available, looking for a lineout leader.

Props
PR Sekope Kepu (Australia) (3)

Locks
LK Alun Wyn Jones (Wales)

Scrumhalves
SH Sam Harrison (E)

Flyhalves
FH/FB Danny Cipriani (E)

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 27 Oct 2012, 1:32 pm

Good article by Greenwood about Freddie Burns today

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/9636239/Will-Greenwood-England-selectors-must-break-the-mould-and-select-maverick-fly-half-like-Freddie-Burns.html

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Post by Guest Sat 27 Oct 2012, 3:01 pm

stnick88 wrote:That will be a great backrow battle Matt.
Has there ever been a quicker back line
Than irishs tomorrow? Tagi, armitage, jj, Ojo, Watson.
They call it the blackline!

Sharples may Jsd Morgan and trinder played together last year in a massively unbalanced backline

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Post by stnick88 Sat 27 Oct 2012, 6:34 pm

Glos battling so well here. Youngs been poor anyone else not
Really rate him? Sorry Luke!

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Post by stnick88 Sat 27 Oct 2012, 6:36 pm

When i say rate him he is decent enough AP but not int quality for me

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 27 Oct 2012, 6:40 pm

Throwing has gone backwards again.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 27 Oct 2012, 6:41 pm

Well the Leinster Blues game is over as a contest inside the first 10 minutes. 14-0. Sexton tearing them apart. McFadden has bulked up since the summer and playing well the last few weeks

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 27 Oct 2012, 7:03 pm

TBP inside the first half hour. Some sublime rugby from Leinster!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 28 Oct 2012, 10:03 am

League table updated, just 10 points separating the top 8. Next weeks fixtures by league position mean we could see it condensing up even more.

4th v 11th
5th v 6th
1st v 2nd
9th v 8th
7th v3rd
12th v 10th
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 28 Oct 2012, 11:32 am

Just settling down for Gloucester v LEicester. Here its a cracker. Massive head to heads. Morgan v Waldrom. Flood v Burns. Big test for Tom Youngs as well

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 28 Oct 2012, 11:45 am

Burns had a stormer apparently

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 28 Oct 2012, 11:49 am

Morgan has started well. Qera had a good start. Deacon a player who has got better with age. I could see him and Parling starting in the 6N if they are playing well. Cover all bases between them.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 28 Oct 2012, 11:49 am

JSD's decision making is questionable at best sometimes.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 28 Oct 2012, 11:55 am

just seen the Burns try. Sublime.

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Post by Guest Sun 28 Oct 2012, 12:22 pm

Jsd was a magician again yesterday. Best broken field runner about. The try he made for qera had it all.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 28 Oct 2012, 12:25 pm

Tom Youngs cannot play for England with his throwing like this.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 28 Oct 2012, 12:35 pm

I've updated the Heineken pool tables (sorry for the delay), will get the Amlin done later. As it stands the QF draw would be...

Saints vs. Ulster
Quins vs. Toulon
ASM vs. Gloucester
Tigers vs. Toulouse

with Leinster, Munster and Biarritz dropping into the Amlin.

Fair to say that the Euro rule changes have had the desired effect of making a bit tougher for the sides in this league.
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